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Obama wants forced labor for school children
Office of the President-Elect ^ | 11-05-08 | Office of the President-Elect

Posted on 11/07/2008 9:20:01 AM PST by Khepri

America Serves

"When you choose to serve -- whether it's your nation, your community or simply your neighborhood -- you are connected to that fundamental American ideal that we want life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness not just for ourselves, but for all Americans. That's why it's called the American dream."

The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation’s challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps. Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year. Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.


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To: Allegra
The only difference between Obama's plan and the draft is that the constitution allows for the Federal gov't to raise and support an army...therefore consription is assumed and allowed in the constitution...whereas this is not.

But I agree with you on the draft. I've been in almost 22 years...and being in charge of a unit...I can tell you there is a BIG difference b/w people who WANT to be there and people who don't. The voluntary service we have now is just fine. If we added a bunch of people who don't want to be here (especially those who can be founf in today's society)...it would be a real drag.

To those who were talking about school credits required for graduation being connected to community service...I really don't have an issue with that. 1) That is the STATE doing it. 2) It's not MANDATED that you have a high school diploma...you could do the extra work and home school or get a GED. If a STATE decides they want you to do something in return for THEIR diploma...then that's the price. Since one's not MANDATORY (the diploma)...then technically....neither is the other (the service)...its a choice you make. And if I REALLY don't want to make that choice...I could move to another state or disenroll...or get a high school education via some other means.

The problem with this is it is FEDERALLY MANDATED SERVICE FOR ALL...with NOTHING promised in return. And as another poster said...you can bet your bottom dollar that the kids who will be complying will be the suburban and rural kids...not the inner city kids.

201 posted on 11/07/2008 12:13:04 PM PST by NELSON111
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To: vigl

“The town requires kids to do 20 hours of community service each month. “

the whole Freaking TOWN?

damn! 20 hours, is like 5 hours every weekend. that’s bull$hit.


202 posted on 11/07/2008 12:17:26 PM PST by stompk
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To: Liberty1970

Who says only public school children will be required to perform this “forced labour”?


203 posted on 11/07/2008 12:21:12 PM PST by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: Alberta's Child

ping


204 posted on 11/07/2008 12:22:33 PM PST by Glacier Honey (`)
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To: Khepri
"Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed."

~Michelle Obama

205 posted on 11/07/2008 12:26:13 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: CottonBall
Not so. It's already part of the state curriculum.

Service-Learning

Instructional strategy whereby students learn academic content standards by participating in organized service that addresses community needs and fosters civic responsibility.

CalServe K-12 Service-Learning Initiative

Background

Background information on the CalServe K-12 Service-Learning Initiative and the Corporation for National and Community Service, Learn and Serve America.

CalServe Initiative

CalServe Fact Sheet (DOC; 350KB; 1p.)

Corporation for National and Community Service

Learn and Serve America Fact Sheet (PDF; Outside Source)

Overview of Service-Learning

Information on the instructional method known as service-learning.

What is Service-Learning?

What is Community Service?

Resources

California Service-Learning Leader Schools Awards Program
The California Department of Education and State Farm Insurance are proud to sponsor the second annual CDE CalServe Initiative Service-Learning Leader Schools Awards Program.

Funding
Requests for applications and funding results for service-learning programs.

District Tools and Resources
Service-learning tools and resources for school districts including the 2000-06 Sustainability Survey Results, Service-Learning Task Force Report, research and evaluation, and state and national links.

District Models

Regional Networks

Listserv
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Contact CalServe

Questions:   Counseling, Student Support, and Service-Learning Office | 916-323-2183
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Through the CalServe Initiative, the California Department of Education has been supporting a Statewide Regional Service-Learning Network (Outside Source) and districtwide school-community partnerships that annually involve over 120,000 students and approximately 15,000 community volunteers in urban, rural and suburban communities throughout the state. It is CDE's vision that 50 percent of all districts will include service-learning as part of their regular instructional practice, engaging students in at least one service-learning experience at each grade span (K-5, 6-8, and 9-12).

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206 posted on 11/07/2008 12:27:01 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: NELSON111
But I agree with you on the draft. I've been in almost 22 years...and being in charge of a unit...I can tell you there is a BIG difference b/w people who WANT to be there and people who don't. The voluntary service we have now is just fine. If we added a bunch of people who don't want to be here (especially those who can be founf in today's society)...it would be a real drag.

Thank you for your service. I grew up in a military family and I've worked directly with the military for the past five years. All of the officers I have worked with agree that a draft tends to be counterproductive.

I realize that the constitution allows for it, but it should only be used in a serious crisis situation.

This mandatory community service crap for all citizens is Marxist garbage and we need to start resisting Obama's totalitarian crap now so that he realizes it's not going to fly with the American citizens.

And he hasn't even been inaugurated yet... (sigh...)

I knew we had some stupid people in our country, but who knew we had at least 63 million of 'em? Let them do the community service.

207 posted on 11/07/2008 12:28:02 PM PST by Allegra
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To: trisham

Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives. /fullstop


208 posted on 11/07/2008 12:28:44 PM PST by stompk
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To: Khepri

So much for heartfelt, organic grassroots community movements.


209 posted on 11/07/2008 12:33:50 PM PST by littlehouse36
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To: thethird
volunteering for high school credit has nothing to do with slavery, the draft, or coercion...

It does when you have to 'volunteer' to work where the school tells you to.
210 posted on 11/07/2008 12:36:43 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: everyone

This is his “wish list.”

We have to wait until actual proposed legislation is introduced. There’s plenty of time to react then, when we see what he’s actualy suggesting.


211 posted on 11/07/2008 12:40:03 PM PST by Technical Editor
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To: Khepri

I’ve been reading Ayn Rand’s “We The Living”. Frightening. It sounds just like what the O-team has in store for the US:Want a job, must be a Union member or Party member; All students must participate in “social” activities; Want to get a place to stay, you must show you social profile the house manager, who will then determine from that how much to charge you.


212 posted on 11/07/2008 12:42:36 PM PST by Clock King (Radical Conservatives, arise!)
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To: trisham

Bam. I hated that statement then and hate Michelle for saying it. Even moreso now.


213 posted on 11/07/2008 12:44:28 PM PST by Clock King (Radical Conservatives, arise!)
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To: Liberty1970

“Sending a child to government school really ought to be considered child abuse. Or are they going to mandate that homeschoolers and private schools also comply? (Or else!)”

OPPS-—did I get off at the wrong bus stop. Please tell me I am not in Cuba.


214 posted on 11/07/2008 12:46:42 PM PST by DaltonNC
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To: Technical Editor

Just look at the state’s programs there are already examples out there.


215 posted on 11/07/2008 12:47:09 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: bamahead

Thank you!


216 posted on 11/07/2008 12:47:48 PM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: thethird; bamahead
You’re right, you are totally right... Kids are not lazy and parents are not lazy. Kids are not self-centered, parents are not self-centered. Kids are not overweight, parents are not overweight. Kids play real instruments instead of fake ones. Kids engage in social activity over online simulation. It is sad read that you think 1 hour of community service week, as part of high school graduation credit is socialism. Clearly you were NEVER a boyscout.

Hey newb, how about you stop lecturing me and try and get your perceptions under control. Now listen closely you fake conservative---"community service" is NOT TO BE made COMPULSORY by THE STATE. I'm guessing you're one of the enlightened ones who voted for Obama (the community service organizer) to "teach the republicans a lesson." Makes me sick.

Now go back to your little local newspaper message board stop bothering actual conservatives.

217 posted on 11/07/2008 12:53:08 PM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Khepri

Oh, I’ll send my kids to their mandatory volunteer service but I’ll instruct them to sabotage every aspect of the program (without getting caught) as I have done in the past when confronted with similar things. The insurgency training will start immediately.


218 posted on 11/07/2008 12:55:11 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: Khepri

http://www.arlenwilliams.com/change_gov_america_serves_work_brings_freedom.html

http://investigatingobama.blogspot.com/2008/11/changegov-work-brings-freedom.html

Feel free to post here in their entirety, if you wish.


219 posted on 11/07/2008 1:00:34 PM PST by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com - www.etpv.org/whatsnew.html)
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To: subterfuge

Anytime.


220 posted on 11/07/2008 1:07:30 PM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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