Obama wants forced labor for school children

Office of the President-Elect ^ | 11-05-08 | Office of the President-Elect

[NELSON111]

The only difference between Obama's plan and the draft is that the constitution allows for the Federal gov't to raise and support an army...therefore consription is assumed and allowed in the constitution...whereas this is not.

But I agree with you on the draft. I've been in almost 22 years...and being in charge of a unit...I can tell you there is a BIG difference b/w people who WANT to be there and people who don't. The voluntary service we have now is just fine. If we added a bunch of people who don't want to be here (especially those who can be founf in today's society)...it would be a real drag.

To those who were talking about school credits required for graduation being connected to community service...I really don't have an issue with that. 1) That is the STATE doing it. 2) It's not MANDATED that you have a high school diploma...you could do the extra work and home school or get a GED. If a STATE decides they want you to do something in return for THEIR diploma...then that's the price. Since one's not MANDATORY (the diploma)...then technically....neither is the other (the service)...its a choice you make. And if I REALLY don't want to make that choice...I could move to another state or disenroll...or get a high school education via some other means.

The problem with this is it is FEDERALLY MANDATED SERVICE FOR ALL...with NOTHING promised in return. And as another poster said...you can bet your bottom dollar that the kids who will be complying will be the suburban and rural kids...not the inner city kids.

[stompk]

“The town requires kids to do 20 hours of community service each month. “

the whole Freaking TOWN?

damn! 20 hours, is like 5 hours every weekend. that’s bull$hit.

[TaxRelief]

Who says only public school children will be required to perform this “forced labour”?

[Glacier Honey]

ping

[trisham]

"Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed."

~Michelle Obama

[hedgetrimmer]

Not so. It's already part of the state curriculum.

Service-Learning

Instructional strategy whereby students learn academic content standards by participating in organized service that addresses community needs and fosters civic responsibility.

CalServe K-12 Service-Learning Initiative

Background

Background information on the CalServe K-12 Service-Learning Initiative and the Corporation for National and Community Service, Learn and Serve America.

CalServe Initiative

CalServe Fact Sheet (DOC; 350KB; 1p.)

Corporation for National and Community Service

Learn and Serve America Fact Sheet (PDF; Outside Source)

Overview of Service-Learning

Information on the instructional method known as service-learning.

What is Service-Learning?

What is Community Service?

Resources

California Service-Learning Leader Schools Awards Program
The California Department of Education and State Farm Insurance are proud to sponsor the second annual CDE CalServe Initiative Service-Learning Leader Schools Awards Program.

Funding
Requests for applications and funding results for service-learning programs.

District Tools and Resources
Service-learning tools and resources for school districts including the 2000-06 Sustainability Survey Results, Service-Learning Task Force Report, research and evaluation, and state and national links.

District Models

• CalServe Partnerships
  Locate a CalServe Partnership in your region.
• Grantee Information
  Grants management forms and information for CalServe Partnership grantees.

Regional Networks

• Regional Leads
• Grantee Information
  Grants management forms and information for CalServe Regional Lead grantees.

Listserv
Join the CalServe Listserv to share ideas and ask for advice about service-learning.

Contact CalServe

Questions:   Counseling, Student Support, and Service-Learning Office | 916-323-2183

Download Free Readers

California Department of Education
1430 N Street
Sacramento, CA 95814

CalServe Initiative

Background information on the CalServe K-12 Service-Learning Initiative.

Through the CalServe Initiative, the California Department of Education has been supporting a Statewide Regional Service-Learning Network (Outside Source) and districtwide school-community partnerships that annually involve over 120,000 students and approximately 15,000 community volunteers in urban, rural and suburban communities throughout the state. It is CDE's vision that 50 percent of all districts will include service-learning as part of their regular instructional practice, engaging students in at least one service-learning experience at each grade span (K-5, 6-8, and 9-12).

Locate a CalServe Partnership in Your Region

Region 1 - Del Norte, Humboldt, Lake, Mendocino, and Sonoma counties

Region 2 - Butte, Glenn, Lassen, Modoc, Plumas, Shasta, Siskiyou, Tehama, and Trinity counties

Region 3 - Alpine, Colusa, El Dorado, Nevada, Placer, Sacramento, Sierra, Sutter, Yolo, and Yuba counties

Region 4 - Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, Napa, San Francisco, and Solano counties

Region 5 - Monterey, San Benito, Santa Clara, San Mateo, and Santa Cruz counties

Region 6 - Amador, Calaveras, San Joaquin, Stanislaus, and Tuolumne counties

Region 7 - Fresno, Kings, Madera, Mariposa, Merced, and Tulare counties

Region 8 - Kern, San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara, and Ventura counties

Region 9 - Imperial, Orange, and San Diego counties

Region 10 - Riverside, Inyo, Mono, and San Bernardino counties

Regions 11 & 12 - Los Angeles County and Los Angeles Unified School District

[Allegra]

But I agree with you on the draft. I've been in almost 22 years...and being in charge of a unit...I can tell you there is a BIG difference b/w people who WANT to be there and people who don't. The voluntary service we have now is just fine. If we added a bunch of people who don't want to be here (especially those who can be founf in today's society)...it would be a real drag.

Thank you for your service. I grew up in a military family and I've worked directly with the military for the past five years. All of the officers I have worked with agree that a draft tends to be counterproductive.

I realize that the constitution allows for it, but it should only be used in a serious crisis situation.

This mandatory community service crap for all citizens is Marxist garbage and we need to start resisting Obama's totalitarian crap now so that he realizes it's not going to fly with the American citizens.

And he hasn't even been inaugurated yet... (sigh...)

I knew we had some stupid people in our country, but who knew we had at least 63 million of 'em? Let them do the community service.

[stompk]

Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives. /fullstop

[littlehouse36]

So much for heartfelt, organic grassroots community movements.

[hedgetrimmer]

volunteering for high school credit has nothing to do with slavery, the draft, or coercion...

It does when you have to 'volunteer' to work where the school tells you to.

[Technical Editor]

This is his “wish list.”

We have to wait until actual proposed legislation is introduced. There’s plenty of time to react then, when we see what he’s actualy suggesting.

[Clock King]

I’ve been reading Ayn Rand’s “We The Living”. Frightening. It sounds just like what the O-team has in store for the US:Want a job, must be a Union member or Party member; All students must participate in “social” activities; Want to get a place to stay, you must show you social profile the house manager, who will then determine from that how much to charge you.

[Clock King]

Bam. I hated that statement then and hate Michelle for saying it. Even moreso now.

[DaltonNC]

“Sending a child to government school really ought to be considered child abuse. Or are they going to mandate that homeschoolers and private schools also comply? (Or else!)”

OPPS-—did I get off at the wrong bus stop. Please tell me I am not in Cuba.

[hedgetrimmer]

Just look at the state’s programs there are already examples out there.

[subterfuge]

Thank you!

[subterfuge]

You’re right, you are totally right... Kids are not lazy and parents are not lazy. Kids are not self-centered, parents are not self-centered. Kids are not overweight, parents are not overweight. Kids play real instruments instead of fake ones. Kids engage in social activity over online simulation. It is sad read that you think 1 hour of community service week, as part of high school graduation credit is socialism. Clearly you were NEVER a boyscout.

Hey newb, how about you stop lecturing me and try and get your perceptions under control. Now listen closely you fake conservative---"community service" is NOT TO BE made COMPULSORY by THE STATE. I'm guessing you're one of the enlightened ones who voted for Obama (the community service organizer) to "teach the republicans a lesson." Makes me sick.

Now go back to your little local newspaper message board stop bothering actual conservatives.

[steve86]

Oh, I’ll send my kids to their mandatory volunteer service but I’ll instruct them to sabotage every aspect of the program (without getting caught) as I have done in the past when confronted with similar things. The insurgency training will start immediately.

[unspun]

http://www.arlenwilliams.com/change_gov_america_serves_work_brings_freedom.html

http://investigatingobama.blogspot.com/2008/11/changegov-work-brings-freedom.html

Feel free to post here in their entirety, if you wish.

[bamahead]

Anytime.