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Reloading: Fear fuels nationwide weapons buying spree
The Missoula Independent ^ | November 13, 2008 | George Ochenski

Posted on 11/13/2008 12:20:22 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The votes were barely counted and Barack Obama’s supporters were still dancing in the streets, buoyed by hope for a better tomorrow, when the news reports began to hit the wires. Obama’s victory brought a huge sigh of relief to those weary of the direction in which the country has been led for the last eight years. But on the other side of that coin, intense anger, fear and paranoia has sparked a flood of people nationwide to buy assault weapons and large amounts of ammunition.

Reports on the numbers of people buying guns and ammo over the last year has filtered out in blogs and tiny newspaper articles for some time. But as the election grew near, and especially after the outcome became known, a tidal wave of frantic buying has captured mainstream, front-page news from coast to coast and border to border, including a prominent Sunday spread in Missoula’s daily.

The most interesting thing is that the weapons and ammo most in demand are not the kind of rifles and bullets normally used for hunting, but the so-called “black guns” that are primarily for military and personal protection. These include, but are not limited to, the AK-47, undoubtedly the most widely used assault rifle in the world, and U.S. military counterparts such as the M-16 and AR15.

These guns all have one thing in common besides their military roots—they were outlawed for sale under the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban passed by Congress and signed into law by President Bill Clinton. The law banned all assault rifle semi-automatics with folding stocks, high-capacity clips, threaded barrels, pistol grips and grenade launcher attachments as well as certain types of pistols and shotguns.

The Assault Weapons Ban expired exactly 10 years later, on September 13, 2004, and neither President Bush nor Congress has attempted to re-instate it. More than a few political observers claim the ban was in large part responsible for the Democrats losing control of Congress for the ensuing decade.

But now, there’s fear sweeping the nation that the new and larger Democratic majorities in both the House and Senate will pass a new weapons ban and that President-elect Obama will sign it into law. If you don’t believe it, just go to a local sporting goods store that carries assault-style rifles and take a look around. Last week, following the election, the lines were three deep in front of every salesperson in my neighborhood gun shops. And late last week a front-page article in the Helena Independent Record interviewed the owner of a local sporting goods and gun shop who said he had just ordered 120,000 rounds of ammo, half of which was already pre-sold.

Or stop into the next gun show in your area. The gun show in Helena last weekend, for instance, set new attendance records and sold out of AK-47 ammo well before it ran out of customers. When I talked with one vendor about what was going on, he told me that the New York Times had called his Missoula shop last week and the reporter tried to get him to admit that it was just the National Rifle Association (NRA) spreading fear and driving the citizenry into purchasing assault rifles while they still could. Besides the gun ban, he added that there was great concern that Congress and Obama would approve a ban on any ammunition that could penetrate law enforcement body armor, which he said would include virtually all high-powered rifles. When I asked how the federal government would deal with those who reloaded their own bullets, he said that those kinds of questions remained unanswered at this time. The result is that the fear and apprehension continue to rise as the intentions of the new Congress and president remain uncertain.

While it would be one thing to say that right-wingers are up in arms (so to speak) over a potential future weapons ban, it would be incorrect to limit concerns only to them. There is considerable evidence that many from the progressive side of the political aisle are equally concerned—but for a different reason.

In their case, they fear that President Obama is literally walking around with a target on his chest. Given the assassinations of President Kennedy, his brother Robert Kennedy, and Martin Luther King, Jr.—as well as the attempted assassination of President Ronald Reagan—those fears are not unfounded. Pundits may proclaim that Obama’s victory has shown the nation is leaving racism behind, but it would be naïve to think that an almost evenly divided populace would somehow be purged of violent racists through the mere outcome of an election.

The supposition is that if President Obama is assassinated, the nation would be thrown into a violent and uncontrollable cataclysm that would pit citizens against each other in a way we haven’t seen since the race riots of the ’60s ravaged Watts, Detroit, Philadelphia and Washington, D.C., leaving hundreds of dead and injured in their wake and millions of dollars in damages. Given the extreme polarization of the populace during the Bush administration, such fears are certainly within the realm of possibility.

Finally, the vast uncertainty over the nation’s economic future must be factored into the equation. It’s well known that, in times of economic downturn, people buy guns and ammo. We here in Montana like to believe it’s for hunting, so we can put meat in our freezers. But you don’t buy AK-47s for hunting in our mega-cities, where big game is non-existent. The only things to shoot there are fellow human beings—in this case, those who would theoretically threaten to harm or loot individuals or families.

No one knows what the future holds, but we do know what’s happening right now. All we can do is hope for cool heads—and cooler trigger fingers—in the coming months, and for the health and safety of our president-elect.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: 111th; 2ndamendment; banglist; bho2008; congress; election; guns; obama; obamatransitionfile; presidentelectobama; rtkba; secondamendment
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To: Nathan Zachary

Re: They are illegal dumb @ss

No they aren’t!

At least not yet.


41 posted on 11/13/2008 5:06:31 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Little known fact: Barack Obama translated into Kenyan means "Jimmy Carter")
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To: Nathan Zachary

Why do you need a shotgun at all? All you need is good locks on your doors and a phone to call 911.


42 posted on 11/13/2008 5:11:16 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: I see my hands
900 feet?

pretty much any gun is capable of killing someone at 900 feet. its a matter of being able to do it consistantly.
43 posted on 11/13/2008 5:15:01 AM PST by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
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To: wtc911

The MOST important thing to know about defending yourself in your home is to be able to hit the target quickly with multiple rounds regardless of the gun you are using. Handguns with hollow points are the best IMO for inside home defense. Shotguns have their purpose but even with an 18” barrel, the pattern does not open up sufficiently to be just a point and shoot weapon. Across a 15 foot room, 00 will open up about 8 inches. Of course, just racking the weapon may be enough to send them on their way while a hand gun may not have that fear factor.

Vince


44 posted on 11/13/2008 5:17:28 AM PST by Mouton
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...deal with those who reloaded their own bullets...

Does anyone here reload their own "bullets"?

45 posted on 11/13/2008 5:23:40 AM PST by CPOSharky (Coming up: Four years of Jimmuh Cartah on crack.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"These include, but are not limited to, the AK-47, undoubtedly the most widely used assault rifle in the world, and U.S. military counterparts such as the M-16 and AR15."

Quit Reading right there another press idiot who cannot tell one gun from another. Like I said on another thread - tell me where I can buy assault weapons and I am all over it like 7 on 8.

46 posted on 11/13/2008 5:23:59 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

While it would be one thing to say that right-wingers are up in arms (so to speak) over a potential future weapons ban, it would be incorrect to limit concerns only to them. There is considerable evidence that many from the progressive side of the political aisle are equally concerned—but for a different reason.

In their case, they fear that President Obama is literally walking around with a target on his chest. Given the assassinations of President Kennedy, his brother Robert Kennedy, and Martin Luther King, Jr.—as well as the attempted assassination of President Ronald Reagan—those fears are not unfounded. Pundits may proclaim that Obama’s victory has shown the nation is leaving racism behind, but it would be naïve to think that an almost evenly divided populace would somehow be purged of violent racists through the mere outcome of an election.

The supposition is that if President Obama is assassinated, the nation would be thrown into a violent and uncontrollable cataclysm that would pit citizens against each other in a way we haven’t seen since the race riots of the ’60s ravaged Watts, Detroit, Philadelphia and Washington, D.C., leaving hundreds of dead and injured in their wake and millions of dollars in damages. Given the extreme polarization of the populace during the Bush administration, such fears are certainly within the realm of possibility.


This is total bias and irresponsible journalism...Period...

To ASSume that those of us who understand and value the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, most appropriastely the Second Amendment, will in large part honor the office of the President of these United States, but we will be ever vigilant and scrutinize every move made by that elected official, and will protect that person occupying that position no matter what...That is just what we have to do...Period...

We are being setup to be the fall guys and gals on this, that it is just so surreal and almost comical to a point...The yammer-heads that lead the dunderheads that voted for this socialist are being fed this crap, and its going to hurt everyone in the country before anything has (or will) happen...

I for one (as much as I vehemently oppose the policies and sgenda of Obama) leave those differences at that...

If I hear or see any credible crud about taking someone out, I promise I will bust you from here to Christmas...We are better than this here, thats why I hang out and throw my nonsense opinions out there for others to laugh at...

Its a frustrating position for us to be in, but we will weather this storm...

Now...If I thought I could get into the next gunshow here in Houston without camping out the night before at the door...hehehe

This is just going to be priceless to even watch...

$10 for parking, $6-7 to get in the door...

Seeing the tables cleared of anything functional that goes BANG...That’s priceless...


47 posted on 11/13/2008 5:27:04 AM PST by stevie_d_64
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To: backhoe

Yeah. So..........?


48 posted on 11/13/2008 5:27:51 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: wtc911

I kinda wonder that myself...

But then again that 20mm Lahti rifle I have (in my dreams) is sure fun to shoot feral pigs with (in my dreams)...They just kinda explode...(in my dreams)...

I can see it coming...The hate is welling in some people...hehehe


49 posted on 11/13/2008 5:30:12 AM PST by stevie_d_64
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Wow. Tying increased gun sales with racism and assassination possibilities.

Who'd a thought that would happen. /s

50 posted on 11/13/2008 5:31:20 AM PST by Pistolshot ("Democrats don't show respect, they just demand respect " - ClearCase_guy)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Shotguns are great for close range personal defense, but if the fecal matter impacts the rotating blades your gonna want something that’ll reach out and touch someone.


51 posted on 11/13/2008 5:45:28 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

My local gun shop wanted $1295 for an AR-15.

I really dont want to go into debt to get one.


52 posted on 11/13/2008 5:46:34 AM PST by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW ,)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does $70 for 100 rounds .223 sound right too you?


53 posted on 11/13/2008 5:47:59 AM PST by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW ,)
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To: CPT Clay
Does $70 for 100 rounds .223 sound right too you?

That's pretty high. I have seen 1,000rd cases of the stuff in stores around here for as little as $350 over the last few weeks. Don't know how much is left though. If my guess is right, not much.

54 posted on 11/13/2008 5:51:13 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: backhoe

>They are all “on the books...”<

What would give you that idea?


55 posted on 11/13/2008 5:53:15 AM PST by B4Ranch (("In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." FDR)
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To: Dahoser

Those were powerful words that went right over the heads of half of America.


56 posted on 11/13/2008 6:00:48 AM PST by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: absolootezer0

“””its a matter of being able to do it consistantly.”””

Yeah, just wait till you get to my age....


57 posted on 11/13/2008 6:00:59 AM PST by envisio (If you ain't laughin yet... you ain't seen me naked. 8^O)
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To: stockpirate

Good Tagline!


58 posted on 11/13/2008 6:05:37 AM PST by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW ,)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

When I was face to face with the dem protesters in Tallahassee during the recount fiasco with algore, they kept spouting off about it being a coup d’etat etc.

When I reminded them that our side owned the guns and were friends of the military they got quiet, very quiet.


59 posted on 11/13/2008 6:14:05 AM PST by Eagle Eye (Obama's Marxism--Chains you can believe in)
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To: Smokin' Joe

The “Live for Free Pie” crowd is going to find out they’ve been duped,

and try to take it out on the “Live Free or Die” crowd.


60 posted on 11/13/2008 6:15:34 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, and Thuggery)
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