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UAW Leader Says No More Concession
AP ^ | 11-15-08 | Mark Williams

Posted on 11/15/2008 11:02:50 AM PST by engrpat

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To: Roklok
These idiots are going to kill the golden goose. Just how stupid can these people be.

This is an endgame strategy. Unlike a successful parasite, they've killed their hosts, and their only hope is to transfer the benefit obligations from the dying car companies to the American taxpayers. They literally have nothing to lose by trying this, and who knows, it might even work.

41 posted on 11/15/2008 11:26:14 AM PST by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: engrpat
No concessions, then start taking singing lesions, so UAW members can sing “Solidarity Forever” in the unemployment line.
42 posted on 11/15/2008 11:26:35 AM PST by quadrant (1o)
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To: Mike Darancette

Translation....don’t mess with our Viagra!


43 posted on 11/15/2008 11:26:50 AM PST by DAC21
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To: richace
Why would Toyota want GM?

Maybe not at $10 a share, or whatever it was last month.

GM's stock prices is near ZERO, which means it would essentially be free.

Hey, why stare a gift horse in the mouth... as they say.

The sum of the parts are worth more than the whole.

That's why it just might make sense in the end.

44 posted on 11/15/2008 11:26:59 AM PST by Edit35 (.)
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To: engrpat

All three car companies should file Chapter 11 and go non union!


45 posted on 11/15/2008 11:28:02 AM PST by dalereed
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To: engrpat

Sounds like murder-suicide, dont it?


46 posted on 11/15/2008 11:28:02 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Freedom- 07-04-1776-11-06-2008. RIP)
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To: Mikey_1962
But does he really expect that the public will tolerate a multi-billion dollar bailout without concessions?
47 posted on 11/15/2008 11:28:31 AM PST by quadrant (1o)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
can just sit back and wait until they get billions of taxpayer dollars in a federal bailout

That's exactly it. They will get a nice chunk of that money but the actual workers will see none.

Enough already. Let GM collapse and they can start over without the HUGE debt and goodbye unions.

No bailout!

48 posted on 11/15/2008 11:28:34 AM PST by softwarecreator (Wow, free food, free gas and no more mortgage payments after January 2009, thanks Obama!!)
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To: John Jorsett
They literally have nothing to lose by trying this,...

Nope just producers with conviction have anything to lose.....up front anyway.

49 posted on 11/15/2008 11:28:39 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: engrpat

The big 3 are going to be nationalized. Fortunately, Toyota, Honda & others have enough plants in the USA that they can’t “ban” them as imports. So, the American big 3 will make crap, just like British Motors back in the 1970s.

I only owned Ford & GM my entire life. That’s ended; I’ve bought my last “American” car. I’m now a consumer “free agent” with my brand loyalty available to the best deal.


50 posted on 11/15/2008 11:29:08 AM PST by henkster (It's time for a conservative "long march through the institutions.")
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To: St. Louis Conservative
The UAW has the Dems in their back pocket ...

Not to be anti-American... but that's all the more reason I won't buy a GM (or a Ford).

Likewise, I am gonna do my best over the next four years to NOT BUY ANYTHING from a company who donated solely to Obama, or whose CEO is a backer of Obama.

Desparate times call for desparate measures.

51 posted on 11/15/2008 11:30:21 AM PST by Edit35 (.)
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To: softwarecreator

The workers will get none, however the union coffers will be full and they can then generously fund Democrat campaigns, high-powered union lobbyists (to secure more bailouts probably), and far-left 527s and activist groups (Moveon.org, ACT, etc).


52 posted on 11/15/2008 11:31:27 AM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: quadrant
But does he really expect that the public will tolerate a multi-billion dollar bailout without concessions?

We can do nothing about it. The democrats will take credit for the bailouts and Obama will look like the savior of the US auto industry and, barring some unexpected calamity, will ride a media enduced wave right into re-election in 2012.

53 posted on 11/15/2008 11:31:37 AM PST by softwarecreator (Wow, free food, free gas and no more mortgage payments after January 2009, thanks Obama!!)
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To: henkster
I’m now a consumer “free agent” with my brand loyalty available to the best deal.

Welcome to the club.

My loyalty to GM-Ford ended long ago when it became apparant that the Democrat unions had more defacto control over the company than the CEO's or the Ford Family.

Why continue to support an organization that each year donates hundreds of millions of dollars to far left, anti-American, anti-JudeoChristian cretins in the Radical party now known as Democrat.

54 posted on 11/15/2008 11:34:01 AM PST by Edit35 (.)
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To: richace
Why would Toyota want GM?

They don't. They might want some selected ASSETS of GM, like equipment they can ship down to Tennessee or wherever.

If GM management was doing their financial duty to their shareholders, they would declare bankruptcy, sell off all assets, give the proceeds to shareholders as a last dividend, and go home. Since that terminates management salaries, that won't happen.

55 posted on 11/15/2008 11:34:23 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Question O-thority)
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To: softwarecreator
...very liberal democrats, there is no limit to their ignorance.

A statement worthy of Gettysburg Address fame and kudos to you "softwarecreator" the author of intellect in thought and savvy for showing transparency! : - D

56 posted on 11/15/2008 11:34:34 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: engrpat

I heard someone describe the auto industry as a HMO that makes cars on the side.


57 posted on 11/15/2008 11:35:00 AM PST by tsmith130
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To: St. Louis Conservative
The workers will get none, however the union coffers will be full and they can then generously fund Democrat campaigns

Correct. Basically Obama is taking OUR tax money to ensure he (and other Democrats) get re-elected. This is ridiculous!!!

The demmies are making sure they have a stranglehold on this country for the next decade and beyond ... with our money and without our consent.

58 posted on 11/15/2008 11:35:16 AM PST by softwarecreator (Wow, free food, free gas and no more mortgage payments after January 2009, thanks Obama!!)
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To: EGPWS
Thanks.   =)
59 posted on 11/15/2008 11:36:35 AM PST by softwarecreator (Wow, free food, free gas and no more mortgage payments after January 2009, thanks Obama!!)
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To: engrpat

Yesterday, I was reluctantly for giving GM the $25 billion, based on the assumption that many smaller companies supporting GM would go under, thus adding to the unemployment issue.
I was unaware that if “we” give $25 billion to GM, $12 billion will go to pay for Union benefits.
GM can claim Chapter 11, thus voiding the Union contracts - JUST LIKE THE AIRLINES - and we still have the airlines.

The down side is this may end up being a big arguement for some kind of national healthcare - with however many union members left without the generous pension and healthcare benefits from the car companies.


60 posted on 11/15/2008 11:39:04 AM PST by muleskinner
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