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Mexico drug wars spill across the border
Los Angeles Times ^ | November 15, 2008 | Richard A. Serrano and Sam Quinones

Posted on 11/15/2008 5:31:18 PM PST by SwinneySwitch

Few regions of the U.S. are immune to drug-trafficking organizations that have left a trail of death, kidnappings and other crimes.

Reporting from San Diego and Lilburn, Ga. -- The drug violence that has left nearly 4,000 people dead this year in Mexico is spreading deep into the United States, leaving a trail of slayings, kidnappings and other crimes in at least 195 cities as far afield as Atlanta, Boston, Seattle and Honolulu, according to federal authorities.

The involvement of the top four Mexican drug-trafficking organizations in distribution and money-laundering on U.S. soil has brought a war once dismissed as a foreign affair to the doorstep of local communities.

Residents of the quiet Beaver Hills subdivision in Lilburn, Ga., an Atlanta suburb, awoke to the trans-border crime wave in July, when a brigade of well-armored federal and state police officers surrounded a two-story colonial home at 755 East Fork Shady Drive, ordered neighbors to lock their doors and flushed out three men described as members of a Mexican drug cartel. One was captured after he tried to slip down a storm drain. Another was caught in the ivy in Pete Bogerd's backyard. He lives two doors up and is president of the neighborhood association.

"It blew us away," Bogerd said. "I didn't know we had that many cops."

A short while later, police hauled out a 31-year-old from the Dominican Republic who for nearly a week had been chained and tortured inside the basement, allegedly for not paying a $300,000 drug debt.

In the months after, several dozen suspects have been charged with moving drugs and money for Mexican traffickers through Atlanta, which has emerged as an important hub for thriving narcotics markets in the eastern United States.

Few regions of the nation have been immune....

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; corruption; godschilrun; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; mexico; terrorism; wod; wot
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"The footprints of Mexican smuggling operations are on all but two states, Vermont and West Virginia, according to federal reports."
1 posted on 11/15/2008 5:31:19 PM PST by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch

Good times in George Soros’ open society


2 posted on 11/15/2008 5:31:52 PM PST by JaneNC (I)
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To: SwinneySwitch

I expect drug usage in the U.S. to skyrocket under a Baracko administration.


3 posted on 11/15/2008 5:32:54 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I voted for McCain/Palin so I can look my grandchildren in the eyes when I tell them I'm sorry.)
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Yeah, and a whole lot of drinking, too.


4 posted on 11/15/2008 5:37:12 PM PST by Nachoman (Think of life as an adventure you don't survive.)
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Ping!)))

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


5 posted on 11/15/2008 5:40:05 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (Mexico - beyond your expectations.)
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We used to go to Puerto Nuevo 3-4 times a year for some lobster and all the trimmins. None of us will go now. All men and retired peace officers. (can't ccw in Mexico)

TJ has been very violent for the past 5 years. Now Rosarito is acting up. After James Cameron left the Titanic set there, the government made a big push to draw tourists. Last week 5 killed in public shoot out.

Last year 23 Americans kidnapped in Baja for the ransom.

Trump stopped construction this week on a baja resort unless the Mexican government pays to complete the rest. Not many takers.

6 posted on 11/15/2008 5:41:33 PM PST by nufsed
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"It blew us away," Bogerd said. "I didn't know we had that many cops."

LOL reminds me of the second Terminator movie.

John Connor: We got cops.
Terminator:How many?
Connor:How many? Uh, all of them I think.
7 posted on 11/15/2008 5:41:56 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
What will it take for our government to start protecting us?

When will our leaders say 'enough.'

A country who had no dignity cannot its expect its citizens to respect it.

8 posted on 11/15/2008 5:56:46 PM PST by rvoitier
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To: nufsed

We have a time share in Cancun and go yearly. Altho for the past few years we rarely leave the all inclusive resort, there is no need to. Used to love PV.
I read somewwhere this week that another journalist was murdered right in front of his house. What a mess.


9 posted on 11/15/2008 6:23:09 PM PST by ohiogrammy (12)
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It was in Ciudad Juarez across from El Paso.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2132098/posts


10 posted on 11/15/2008 6:30:59 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (Mexico - beyond your expectations.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

And liberal reporters in the MSM seem bewildered that we have a 300% increase in domestic guns and ammo sales.


11 posted on 11/15/2008 6:32:01 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life ;o)
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To: ohiogrammy
Was that in PV?

We went about five years ago and I loved it. I don't like all inclusive. I like to walk the town, hang around at night and mix with the locals. PV was safe then. I guess things change.

12 posted on 11/15/2008 7:05:13 PM PST by nufsed
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There are plenty of reports of gang violence south of the border. According to this Daily Telegraph Article:
Since January, more than 1,300 people have been killed in execution-style hits or gunned down in fire fights, which often rage for hours in broad daylight and turn residential neighbourhoods into war zones. If the trend continues, 2008 will top last year's toll of 2,500 deaths in drug-related killings.
You don't hear so much about Americans at the Border. Too bad.

Americans are regularly abused. According to this article entitled US Warns Tourists of 'Small-Unit Combat' at Mexico Border -- Murder and kidnapping of Americans has become routine all along the US Mexican border. According to the State Department sometimes heavily armed attackers wear the uniforms of the Mexican police or military. According to Mexicans their military has even become part of the problem. The US Border Patrol has complained to the Bush administration about Mexican military incursions to no avail.

If there is silence about events at the border. The silence about killings north of the border is deafening. And yet....

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says Think about it. A man or woman killed in Iraq or Iran in the line of duty is a hero. But what is an American killed at home by an illegal alien because the government has failed in its sworn duty to guard the borders. This is a pact between the sovereign and the person has paid taxes and loyalty. The answer is to that question is pretty awful. And it bodes ill for the republic.

But is it true?

Yes, according Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa.When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder


New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals) Around 40% of the FBI's wanted for murder are Mexican Nationals

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. He said further that most of illegals in the federal prisons were in for drug related charges. Most of the illegals in jail for murder were in the state prisons. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans--but by no means all -- being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.

Why isn't there an outcry in the black community? Beats me.

Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs. One woman in San Francisco who had her family killed by an illegal is even demanding the city to drop its sanctuary city status. Illegals themselves have become the targets of kidnappers Mexican style in Arizona where drug money from south of the border is often parked.

Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.

To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.

All that said the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts.DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. If you check the links you'll notice that its McCain who cites Chertoff. See also here and here Here is more info from Judicial Watch.

However the number of illegals on death row is far lower. Sadly, so many small towns and villages across America have sent their warriors off to war half way across the world only to see communities fill up with illegal aliens. The Center For Immigration Studies has provided a detailed account of the illegal alien gang problem

Oh there's one other cost of illegals that has gone generally unnoticed. Calling the Old Media: Five Million Illegals Have Illegal Mortgages in U.S.A.!

MALKIN: Illegal immigrant factor

Once again its helpful to provide some maps and stats: Look at the map where those who owe more than the house is worth. Notice any similarities to the unemployment picture and concentrations of illegals

Sadly Illegal Immigrants To Get Next Bailout


13 posted on 11/15/2008 9:08:11 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Nothing gets by the LA Times


14 posted on 11/15/2008 11:07:31 PM PST by Ladycalif (Free - Ramos and Compean)
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To: nufsed

I think Cancun is still fairly safe as it is quite removed from the rest of the country. It is a shame as Mexico is a beautiful place except for the horrible poverty.


15 posted on 11/16/2008 7:29:55 AM PST by ohiogrammy (12)
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Anybody been to PV lately? That’s a place I’d like to go back to.


16 posted on 11/16/2008 8:54:31 AM PST by nufsed
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Went several years ago and stayed by the marina district in the Westin Regina. Beautiful hotel and felt very safe.


17 posted on 11/16/2008 8:59:52 AM PST by ohiogrammy (12)
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To: ohiogrammy

We have time share choices there RCI. I am interested in the city. I don’t like to travel to other countries and stay in the hotel, even with a great beach. : )


18 posted on 11/16/2008 9:22:16 AM PST by nufsed
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‘Border’ Violence Ping!

Not that it’s confined to the Southern border any longer....


19 posted on 11/16/2008 10:24:39 AM PST by HiJinx
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"The footprints of Mexican smuggling operations are on all but two states, Vermont and West Virginia, according to federal reports."

Pick a state, any state...

DEA Most Wanted

20 posted on 11/16/2008 10:30:34 AM PST by TADSLOS (McCain Courted Socialism and Brought Us Marxism Instead)
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