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Berg V. Obama: The Looming Constitutional Crisis (new Details)
Associated Content ^ | published Nov 17, 2008 | By Thomas Latino,

Posted on 11/17/2008 4:56:59 PM PST by mgist

On September 29th of this year a Federal District Court in Pennsylvania ruled that the Democratic Nominee for President Barack Obama had 72 hours to turn over a copy of his long form "vault" birth certificate to long time Democrat and Hillary Clinton supporter, Philip Berg. In the DNC's motion to dismiss they argued Mr. Berg had no "standing" upon which to bring his lawsuit and therefore the Federal Court should dismiss it.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: berg; birthcertificate; birthcertificategate; certifigate; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; philipberg
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To: tom h

Much of what you say is probably correct. Except that Biden would serve only as Acting President until a President was selected. IMHO a Dem controlled congress would select Hillary as opposed to Pelosi.

Also, due to the time available and the number of red states, it seems unlikely we will see an enabling Consitutional Amendment.


21 posted on 11/17/2008 5:46:05 PM PST by frog in a pot (See my About page for draft of letter to Republicans urging objection to O's election on Jan 6.)
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To: cripplecreek

I had thought up until now that it was campaign money.....


22 posted on 11/17/2008 5:46:10 PM PST by bergmeid
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To: tom h

I don’t think that just “state legislatures vote on a change to the Constitution.
I thought that voters in every state had to vote on such a change.


23 posted on 11/17/2008 5:47:42 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: mgist

Basically I am starting to think that this will take someone in Congress to raise it as an issue during the electoral vote.

I have been trying to keep informed on this issue but I am not sure as to how many in Congress it takes to challenge his eligibility? Shouldn’t it take just one Congressman to formally challenge on this issue in writing?

Does not a member of Congress have standing?


24 posted on 11/17/2008 5:55:14 PM PST by TheBigIf
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To: tom h

Your speculation is mostly wrong. There is no way Biden would be president unless Obama dies (eligible or ineligible). If Zero is found to be not qualified then Biden becomes ACTING president while the House chooses from the top three EV getters: McCain, Mccain or MCcain.

An election has been held so Pelosi is not in line. That only occurs with the death/incapacitation of both the President and VP. It is not triggered by an ineligible president.


25 posted on 11/17/2008 6:16:54 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: television is just wrong; All

I do not believe Zero’s lawyers are being paid by taxpayers but by his campaign and he took no public money for it.


26 posted on 11/17/2008 6:18:54 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: frog in a pot

The choice of the House should there be an ineligible president is limited to those candidates receiving EVs. It cannot just pull a name out of its a$$.


27 posted on 11/17/2008 6:20:34 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: xzins

better Berg than any of the do nothings!!


28 posted on 11/17/2008 6:21:11 PM PST by elpadre (nation)
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To: tom h

check out obamacrimes.com biden taking office is not actually automatic.


29 posted on 11/17/2008 6:22:23 PM PST by television is just wrong (obama is going to pay my mortgage for me!)
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To: tom h
The rationale will be that he won the election fair and square, and that the nation deserves him.

I've thought about this a lot and am wondering if there wouldn't be many people who would say it wasn't a fair election if the candidate knowingly perpetrated a fraud. How many voters might have changed their minds and voted for McCain if they had known that Obama was not eligible to be President? Enough to swing it to McCain? Probably.

30 posted on 11/17/2008 6:31:58 PM PST by Faith
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To: Faith
How many voters might have changed their minds and voted for McCain if they had known that Obama was not eligible to be President? Enough to swing it to McCain? Probably.

Actually that's a good point. Look at how many times we tell each other that each other's prefered candidate can't win during the primaries. Same principle.
31 posted on 11/17/2008 6:41:59 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: bergmeid
Yeah I don’t get that either. Tax money?? We should all be raising he!! about this.

Yeah wether it true on not is irrelevant. /s

32 posted on 11/17/2008 6:44:51 PM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: tom h
An emergency session of all state legislatures would be held, and each would be asked to ratify a special amendment to the Constitution allowing Barack Hussein Obama to assume the office without having been a natural-born citizen. Or, perhaps the Amendment would be comprehensive, and eliminate the requirement altogether. [Remember, Arnold Schwarzenegger wants this passed, also.] Then, Obama could be sworn in.

Compliance with the constitution is MANDATORY. No exceptions unless knowingly waived and even then, some can't be waived.

33 posted on 11/17/2008 6:50:40 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: tom h
The rationale will be that he won the election fair and square, and that the nation deserves him.

That's a good summary of the process. Not all of us know the procedure. But I think on this point you are mistaken. As more and more people realize he cheated or that the DNC cheated, I think it will be more of an uphill battle for him.

And even if I'm wrong, given what he really is underneath the mask, I would be happy to throw any and all roadblocks, no matter the cost, in his way.

34 posted on 11/17/2008 7:04:06 PM PST by TheThinker (It is the natural tendency of government to gravitate towards tyranny.)
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To: tom h

This would be giving him a pass, and forever after anyone could demand such favors; the ‘one-time requirement’ wouldn’t stand and such a farce would be used as a precedent.


35 posted on 11/17/2008 7:32:20 PM PST by luvadavi (Important old novel: The Moon Is Down, John Steinbeck, 1942)
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To: mgist

36 posted on 11/17/2008 7:32:58 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

bttt


37 posted on 11/17/2008 7:36:56 PM PST by txhurl (somebody just bought 12 Carrier Battle Groups for 600 million dollars)
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To: txflake
The books will read when we are all gone.

The USA had a President that wasn't eligable.

38 posted on 11/17/2008 7:47:01 PM PST by AGreatPer (Telling Obama all the secrets makes me sick)
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To: arrogantsob
I do not believe Zero’s lawyers are being paid by taxpayers but by his campaign and he took no public money for it.

If that is the case, he is fraudulently reporting the expense. It is not a legit campaign expense.

39 posted on 11/17/2008 8:00:57 PM PST by Amityschild (O'stasi?)
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To: mgist

read later


40 posted on 11/17/2008 8:15:12 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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