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Iranian grain ship seized as Somali pirates hold world to ransom
The Times ^ | 11/19/2008 | Catherine Philp

Posted on 11/18/2008 9:16:24 PM PST by bruinbirdman

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To: ethics
Barch OBAMA must go and talk to these pirates & tell them to be good little boys & behave themselves!

Yes, face to face negotiations by The One are the world's best hope.

With no preconditions.

21 posted on 11/18/2008 9:29:52 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (It's no longer the Press Van, it's a "Tanker" Truck!)
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To: bruinbirdman

As much as I hate to say this, if this turns out to be real, and it does not affect the US, I say we should let the rest of the world deal with it.


22 posted on 11/18/2008 9:30:36 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (((The hell with buckling the seat belts - Load the guns!)))
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To: Doctor Raoul

Hmmm...Q-ships. I like it.


23 posted on 11/18/2008 9:32:04 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (We are SO screwed.)
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To: bruinbirdman

““Now that they have shown they are able to seize an enormous ship like this, it is beyond a military solution. You won’t fix this without a political solution.”

I’m wondering if that is code for: “The Somali government (what little of it exists) is behind this. It’s not just individual groups of pirates acting independently.”

Just a thought.


24 posted on 11/18/2008 9:37:42 PM PST by DemforBush (Millions of conservatives have got your back, Sarah!)
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To: bruinbirdman

I say let the Iranians and Saudis deal with the problem, since it’s their ships. The world will learn soon enough when the US removes itself unilaterally as a world superpower.


25 posted on 11/18/2008 9:38:19 PM PST by Azzurri
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To: bruinbirdman
Blackwater is cocked and ready!
26 posted on 11/18/2008 9:39:41 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts! Republicans do!)
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To: dr_lew

I would not care a bit if every last somali disappeared from the face of the earth. In fact, I would be quite happy if they did. It would be a good start.


27 posted on 11/18/2008 9:40:21 PM PST by Rollee
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To: bruinbirdman
as Somali pirates hold world to ransom

Wow. The very definition of journalistic hyperbole.

28 posted on 11/18/2008 9:41:10 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: org.whodat

Perhaps a reading of Thomas Jefferson’s deeds in that part of the world would clarify the steps to be taken.


29 posted on 11/18/2008 9:42:31 PM PST by ashtanga
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To: Rollee
I would not care a bit if every last somali disappeared from the face of the earth. In fact, I would be quite happy if they did. It would be a good start.

We could start in Columbus. They have infested our North side. Ignorant, demanding and ungrateful.

30 posted on 11/18/2008 9:43:17 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Somali Piracy is easy to solve, and fun too!

Run some fat targets close to shore, making sure the pirates understand they have lots of cash on board, a drunk skipper, and deep pockets owners.

Then, when the pirates get close, open up with the .50 cal guns and some guided missiles and blow them out of the water.

Repeat until pirates don’t come out for the bait.

No more pirate problem. Good gunnery practice for some Navy boys. Simple and fun!


31 posted on 11/18/2008 9:43:38 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (SARAH *** JOE *** 2012!)
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To: Rollee
This is no joke. Do you know the three largest Somali cities on Earth?

Mogadishu, Minneapolis, Columbus.

32 posted on 11/18/2008 9:45:28 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: DannyTN

I’m just wondering if anything has changed in the legal landscape. Or if this is a ruse to issue in more international regulation like maybe the Law of the Sea.


33 posted on 11/18/2008 9:49:32 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Rollee

Ha. That was in Orson Welles’ version of Napoleon. He says to Talleyrand or somebody, “I can’t say I would be any the happier if I woke up one fine morning and found that England had disappeared.” Talleyrand replies, “Ah, but you did say one fine morning.”

This is quite a different matter from “subhuman”, which is simply inaccurate for starters.


34 posted on 11/18/2008 9:50:51 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: ethics

“OBAMA must go and talk to these pirates & tell them to be good little boys & behave themselves!”

He and his little pirate friends are too busy hijacking the U.S.


35 posted on 11/18/2008 9:51:28 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: bruinbirdman

Let’s clear this up a bit. The 5th Fleet Commanders said they “WOULD NOT INTERVENE...”. They did not say “could not”, they did not say “cannot”, they did not say “prohibited”, they did not say “incapable”, they did not say “we lack legal jurisdiction”.

I’m sure we WOULD INTERVENE on behalf of Iran if they ask us to. As a matter of fact WE COULD retake the ship and escort it all the way into a nice safe Iranian port. All they would have to do is ask.


36 posted on 11/18/2008 9:58:41 PM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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“Piracy, like terrorism, is a disease which is against everybody, and everybody must address it together,”

Says the country with uber-wealth and without the balls to protect it.

They got a bundle. let them build a navy and earn the "international community's" thanks by taking these guys on. Same for the Iranians.

Fat chance.

37 posted on 11/18/2008 9:58:53 PM PST by ConservativeCompendium.net (We need to amend the US Constitution. We the People --> We the Politicians.)
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To: bruinbirdman
How about sending out some Q-pertankers.

Somali pirates sail up to a supposedly unarmed tanker. Some blinds roll down and they open fire on the pirates. Dump the bodies in the sea.

Repeat as necessary.

(For those who don't know about Q Ships)

38 posted on 11/18/2008 10:04:51 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: bruinbirdman

Maybe the U.N. should send those pirates a strongly worded letter.


39 posted on 11/18/2008 10:06:14 PM PST by Gomez (killer of threads)
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To: Uncle Miltie; Doctor Raoul

Why not Pirate Hunting cruises? Outfit a ship with 50 cal machine guns along the gunnels and sell seats for the cruise. Side betting encouraged.


40 posted on 11/18/2008 10:09:12 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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