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To: Canedawg; LucyT; Fred Nerks; Beckwith
Your gut may be right on this one.

The question is whether the US constitution is determinative as fact of a persons birth place.

Hawaii State law will give a "State Birth Certificate" to a person who is born outside of Hawaii in terms of situs, if one or both parents are citizens of Hawaii.

If the Supreme Court says that de jure, Obama was born in Hawaii, and that is determined as a matter of fact at law, the Obama qualifies.

That would seem to be a fabrication at law.

The US Constitution is not ambiguous abot the matter. It requires that a person be :

1) Natural born ( this is an interesting requirement for the future, supposing that a person could conceivably born "un-naturally" that is, a clone for example?).

2) in the United States ( does this include territories of the USA, and military bases situarted abroad, for example?It is possible to get a federal birth certificate, my son has one, " Birth of an American Citizen Abroad". Mu son would not qualify to run for president in the defacto sense, even though he is a US Citizen.

I believe that the court will hear this case. The law is ambiguous and requires further definition.It will likely reach the threshold test and I believe that they will decide the case forthwith ( within weeks) in favor of the Obamster.

OR if they refuse to hear the case, it will be on grounds of personal privacy, after perusing Obamas birth record in a closed conference. Obama does not want the public to know who his real father is, because it certainly is not as he has portrayed in his two books.

In jest, I think that Obama is related to a now deceased one armed paper hanger from Germany, his true spiritual father.

15 posted on 11/20/2008 5:44:22 AM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: Candor7

My understanding is that Obama’s mother was to young to pass along American citizenship if Obama was born in Kenya. Alan Keyes claims to have footage of Obama’s grandmother indicating that she was present at Obama’s birth in Kenya.

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244


22 posted on 11/20/2008 5:50:25 AM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: Candor7

The law is clear. Nothing ambiguous regarding the definition of “natural born”. Even the state of Hawaii is not playing word games with this definition. Not following your logic.


25 posted on 11/20/2008 5:52:36 AM PST by motoman
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To: Candor7

Are you suggesting that maybe his mother was, shall we say, casually loose with how many sexual partners she was enjoying at any given time and that the actual Father could have been one of many? Its hard to believe that there is any other name than BHO,Sr. on the Birth Certificate. It is easy to believe that the Birth Certificate CLEARLY PROVES THAT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA,Jr. IS NOT A NATURAL BORN U.S. CITIZEN!! ZERO IS A FRAUD AND A CON-ARTIST!


34 posted on 11/20/2008 6:04:15 AM PST by NOBAMA in 08 ( OBIE HUSSEIN is a Pathetic Puppet of Bill Ayers and Associates!)
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To: Candor7

OR if they refuse to hear the case, it will be on grounds of personal privacy, after perusing Obamas birth record in a closed conference. Obama does not want the public to know who his real father is, because it certainly is not as he has portrayed in his two books.

If this were allowed to stand as a defense, then how could the proof of a candidate’s citizenship ever be proved for whomever may decide to run for the Presidency? You would not be able to authenticate their citizenship status ever. That would be an obamanation (pardon the pun).


50 posted on 11/20/2008 6:31:01 AM PST by flaglady47
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To: Candor7; Canedawg; Fred Nerks; Chief Engineer

“”Hawaii State law will give a “State Birth Certificate” to a person who is born outside of Hawaii in terms of situs, if one or both parents are citizens of Hawaii.””

Hawaii State Law also requires that State BC be given to a parent that met a ‘prior 12 month residency requirement.”

Was she ever actually there the 12 months prior?


51 posted on 11/20/2008 6:33:21 AM PST by Gemsbok (Follow the trail,...,.,.,.,..... I know where it leads)
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