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Change. Yeah, we has it 100K is the new "Rich"
Obama's Change Website ^

Posted on 11/20/2008 9:59:28 AM PST by Explodo

Well the details are back up on the Messiahs website and change we got.

Looks like $100k is the new $250

So help me out here, does the change.gov site change daily?

Does this mean if you make over 100K you are considered "Rich"?

I think I need to create a spreadsheet to keep score...Also, I feel like I need to go take a shower...wandering around Change.gov is akin to reading DU


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1 posted on 11/20/2008 9:59:28 AM PST by Explodo
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To: Explodo

Funny, my wife and I don’t feel rich.


2 posted on 11/20/2008 10:00:37 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: Explodo
with this nitwit,CHANGE will be a daily thing
3 posted on 11/20/2008 10:01:36 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Explodo

Isn’t $100K a bit high?


4 posted on 11/20/2008 10:01:55 AM PST by null and void (0bama is Gorbachev treating a dying system with the same poison that's killing it in the first place)
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To: Explodo

Yeah, knew this was coming. This is just the tip of the socialist iceburg. The Obama voters, and the rest of America are in for a MAJOR SHOCK after the January coronation.

We warned them. We did. And they did not listen.


5 posted on 11/20/2008 10:03:12 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: null and void

Next week it’ll be down to 42K...I just know it.


6 posted on 11/20/2008 10:03:19 AM PST by Explodo (Pessimism is simply pattern recognition)
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To: Explodo

In Obamaland, you’re rich if you make one dollar more than the guy next to you. In that context, we’re all rich, and we’ll need big daddy government to take it away from us for our own good.


7 posted on 11/20/2008 10:03:20 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Obama is not my President!)
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To: Explodo

More like “change” is the diaper of Democrat POTUS.


8 posted on 11/20/2008 10:03:48 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (If the Catholic Church doesn't boldly proclaim God's Word, I'm going to convert to Judaism.)
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To: Explodo
"The Obama-Biden Plan The American dream is increasingly out of reach for many people. Americans with incomes below $100,000 have experienced stagnating wages, declining health care coverage, erosion of pension protections, rising personal debt, and jobs disappearing as a result of global competition and rising housing costs. Further, the gap between America’s richest and poorest is at its widest points in at least 25 years. At a time when costs are rising and Americans are working harder just to keep up, Barack Obama will provide relief for the middle class and support for working people."
9 posted on 11/20/2008 10:03:51 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Explodo

This says $250k still

http://www.change.gov/agenda/taxes_agenda/


10 posted on 11/20/2008 10:05:31 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: silverleaf

Do you know what it said before the election?


11 posted on 11/20/2008 10:05:38 AM PST by twigs
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To: Explodo

To the socialist elite, anything over subsistence is “rich.”

The corollary to this is, of course, the fact that that selfsame socialist elite is exempt from the above definiiton.


12 posted on 11/20/2008 10:06:04 AM PST by Mugwump
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To: Slapshot68

You definitely won’t “feel rich” after The One’s new tax plan goes into effect............


13 posted on 11/20/2008 10:06:30 AM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: Explodo

Change-What’s left of my paycheck after taxes.


14 posted on 11/20/2008 10:07:14 AM PST by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: null and void

Oh, being “rich” in an Obama regime will get easier and easier. I think they have to dip down to about $50,000 to make sure they tax everyone who is now conditioned to being taxed ...because below that a lot of folks arent paying any fed tax.

You rich people out there- remember obama’s face when you buy something, anything in this economy.


15 posted on 11/20/2008 10:07:22 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: silverleaf

Yeah...so does the bolded statement mean that 100K is now the cutoff point for rich (The rest of the text following the statement seems to imply that)

I really hope the Suburbanites that voted for obama realize the full impact of what they did. All I can say right now is “You voted him in...I get to blame you for what he does...Morons”


16 posted on 11/20/2008 10:07:29 AM PST by Explodo (Pessimism is simply pattern recognition)
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To: Explodo

Wow, he’s not even in office yet and he’s already made me filthy rich!!

I think i’ll go shopping.


17 posted on 11/20/2008 10:07:37 AM PST by Gator113 ("Noli nothis permittere te terere.")
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To: Explodo
Next week it’ll be down to 42K...I just know it.

As if the average American family NEEDS more than that to live.

Pfft. You can easily rent a sensible apartment and use public transportation to get around on much less than that.

/s

18 posted on 11/20/2008 10:07:46 AM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: Mugwump

What would Hollywood do if Obama taxes everything they have above $100k..........at 70-80%....8^0


19 posted on 11/20/2008 10:08:37 AM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: AppyPappy

Well that 250K statement there, doesn’t follow with the one in the family section...

His website is as inconsistent as his Reign will be.


20 posted on 11/20/2008 10:09:34 AM PST by Explodo (Pessimism is simply pattern recognition)
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To: Explodo
Next week it’ll be down to 42K...I just know it.

California is run top to bottom by liberals, the top California income tax rate starts at just under $45,000.

No one in America feels rich at $45,000, much less anyone living in California.

To the Dems, if you've got a job, you're rich, and need to be taxed nearly to death.

21 posted on 11/20/2008 10:09:49 AM PST by RJL
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To: AppyPappy
"Under the Obama-Biden Plan: Middle class families will see their taxes cut -- and no family making less than $250,000 will see their taxes increase. The typical middle class family will receive well over $1,000 in tax relief under the Obama-Biden plan, and will pay tax rates that are 20 percent lower than they faced under President Reagan.

Families making more than $250,000 will pay either the same or lower tax rates than they paid in the 1990s. Obama will ask the wealthiest two percent of families to give back a portion of the tax cuts they have received over the past eight years to ensure we are restoring fairness and returning to fiscal responsibility. But no family will pay higher tax rates than they would have paid in the 1990s. "

WELL AT LEAST the great O-bama will ASK! So we can say "no"- right?
22 posted on 11/20/2008 10:10:41 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Explodo
If you're not standing in a Soviet-style bread line,

you're rich.

23 posted on 11/20/2008 10:11:04 AM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: Explodo

“Rich” will soon be anyone with a spare dime.

As Obama has stated plainly in the past, he is willing to make everyone poorer, so long as the gap between rich and poor is closed.

Equality in Poverty.

The new Socialist Motto.

Plain and simple. Stated publicly. No question about it. Everyone equally poor.


24 posted on 11/20/2008 10:11:30 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (SARAH *** JOE *** 2012!)
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To: Explodo

He dropped this piece of his Economic Plan (I have his pre-election plan, which was up right until election day, downloaded):

• Enact a Windfall Profits Tax to Provide a $1,000 Emergency Energy Rebate to American Families:Barack Obama and Joe Biden will enact a windfall profits tax on excessive oil company profits to give American families an immediate $1,000 emergency energy rebate to help families pay rising bills. This relief would be a down payment on the Obama-Biden long-term plan to provide middle-class families with at least $1,000 per year in permanent tax relief.


25 posted on 11/20/2008 10:15:56 AM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: AppyPappy

But look at the chart below where it outlines tax cuts for different scenerios: 1) couples making 75K with two children, one in college ($3,700 +); 2) married couples making 90K ($1,000); single parents making 40K with 2 kids ($2,100 +); 70 yr-old widow making 35K ($1,900). What about couples making over 90K?

Plus, he’s asking “wealthy” Americans to RETURN the tax cuts they received the past eight years. He’s rescinding Pres. Bush’s tax cuts and asking them to return them!

Did he say he would do this in the campaign? Make higher taxes on the “wealthy” retroactive?


26 posted on 11/20/2008 10:16:26 AM PST by twigs
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To: Slapshot68

You ARE rich.....you filthy corrupt capitalist. You have stolen the labors of the.....Oh, never mind...I just can’t do it convincingly enough.

To the Obamunists if you’re not taking government assistance you’re rich.


27 posted on 11/20/2008 10:18:56 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Those who live by the sword risk being shot by those who don’t.)
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To: Explodo

Oh I see, if you work hard to learn marketable skills, drag yourself out of bed each day for 8 or more hours of work, and earn a paycheck that confiscates an unhealthy portion for taxes... you’re a rich bastard who just isn’t sacrificing enough. Bunch of @#%# retards.

Part of the income I EARN as the sole income for my family is from commissions and bonus. It’s a PERFORMANCE based compensation that I assure Mr. Obammo is being taxed higher than my salary. The thought of Obammmmo thinking for split second that I should be ‘redistributing’ anything more is insulting.


28 posted on 11/20/2008 10:19:59 AM PST by Made In The USA (Liberalism is a sign of stupidity.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
As Obama has stated plainly in the past, he is willing to make everyone poorer, so long as the gap between rich and poor is closed.

No, not exactly. All of us regular "rich" people will become poorer. Those who are extremely rich (Buffet, Soros, Oprah) will not feel any proportional effect. The new gap will be between all of us and the super rich liberal elite who are all BO supporters and so will never be touched.

29 posted on 11/20/2008 10:21:25 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Explodo
I did not get the sense that $100K was the new $250K from the article, although it would not surprise me. What I read into it was that if you earn less than $100K you get all the wonderful benefits list, but if you make between $100K to $250K, you get squat.

With the Obama team, however, you just never know what the h3ll is going to happen.

30 posted on 11/20/2008 10:22:39 AM PST by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: Explodo
Expand High-Quality Afterschool Opportunities: Barack Obama and Joe Biden will double funding for the main federal support for afterschool programs, the 21st Century Learning Centers program, to serve one million more children. They will include measures to maximize performance and effectiveness across grantees nationwide.

This scares me more than tax consequences. After school opportunities to further indoctrinate our children using the 21st Century Learning Center.

31 posted on 11/20/2008 10:24:01 AM PST by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: Explodo
“The American dream is increasingly out of reach for many people. Americans with incomes below $100,000 have experienced stagnating wages.....”

The key words in Obama’s 3cardmonty.org are “BELOW $100,000”. $90,000 os BELOW $100k, and $30,000 is BELOW $100k. So, the smarmy Obama campaign has lowered the tax relief bar from $250k, to $150k, to $120K, to now, BELOW $100k. Heck, $5.32 also fits the definition of “below $100,000”. Obama’s Kenyan brother earns “below $100,000”. Pure weasel words, designed for plausible deniability.

The entire site is filled with social engineering proposals by the federal government. If they cannot openly advocate salary caps, they will attempt to achieve their objectives incrementally.

32 posted on 11/20/2008 10:24:30 AM PST by Chairman of the Bard
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To: Explodo

CHANGE. It’s all we’ll have when he gets done.


33 posted on 11/20/2008 10:24:34 AM PST by p38lightning
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To: Red Badger

“Twould be sweet indeed, but I’m afraid certain fellow travelers would also be exempt, thus considered part of the elite.

Must please the propagandists dontcha know?

:-/


34 posted on 11/20/2008 10:24:59 AM PST by Mugwump
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To: Explodo

That website has all the things he refused to say during the campaign because he’d lose the election.

Like requiring every single PRIVATE employer to give 7 paid sick days a year to every employee.

Government has no business interfering in the private contracts between employee and employer. But now, if you are a person who doesn’t get sick, you will be forced to take lower wages to provide sick days to your fellow workers who either get sick all the time, or aren’t ethical so will take their paid sick days whether they are sick or not.


35 posted on 11/20/2008 10:28:20 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: reagan_fanatic

I always wondered - In a perfect Baraq world who gets to eat the lobster? I mean who gets to drive the Cadillac or Mercedes, or do all these companies go out of business and we all drive only what we need to?

If it comes down to from each according to his ability, to each according to his need then who gets beachfront property and who gets the project style apartments?

Just curious how they will spin that answer to justify having to be a donating (D) to get those things.


36 posted on 11/20/2008 10:30:02 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

So about that website...Are we(the taxpayers) funding it?


37 posted on 11/20/2008 10:31:03 AM PST by Explodo (Pessimism is simply pattern recognition)
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To: Made In The USA

No one seems to catch the paid sick days. Seven of them to be exact. Which I can guarantee will be used annually. The next question will be, are they cumulative, and are they to be paid if the employee is discharged/fired ?


38 posted on 11/20/2008 10:31:38 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Those who live by the sword risk being shot by those who don’t.)
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To: SIDENET
If you're not standing in a Soviet-style bread line, you're rich.

You have it a little backwards. People in the old soviet union had tons of money and prices were low too so they were sort of rich. That is they might have had a million rubles which "was worth" a million loaves of bread.

The problem was in a free market, a million rubles were not worth a million. But in a controlled market, a million rubles seemed like a lot and you really were rich if you were allowed to buy all you wanted at the controlled price.

39 posted on 11/20/2008 10:38:40 AM PST by staytrue (YES WE CAN, (everyone should get in the practice of saying it, it will soon be manditory))
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Extend Paid Sick Days to All Workers: Half of all private sector workers have no paid sick days and the problem is worse for employees in low-paying jobs, where less than a quarter receive any paid sick days. Barack Obama and Joe Biden will require that employers provide seven paid sick days per year.

Sick = hungover, or still on that bender.

40 posted on 11/20/2008 10:41:13 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Those who live by the sword risk being shot by those who don’t.)
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To: All

You’re missing the worst part.

After the currency is hyper-inflated, $100K Will buy a meal for a small family at a diner.

We’ll all be millionaires.

And we’ll be taxed accordingly.


41 posted on 11/20/2008 10:41:57 AM PST by null and void (0bama is Gorbachev treating a dying system with the same poison that's killing it in the first place)
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To: All

you are all reading too much into it...

everyone who pays taxes will pay more. period.


42 posted on 11/20/2008 10:44:25 AM PST by zwerni (this isn't gonna be good for business)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Hi, CW. This is something totally irrelevant to the thread, but I am checking my own indicators of a recession.

Are you planning to put up all your Christmas lights this year? I remember the Carter years, when our neighborhoods in the Harrisburg suburbs “went dark” for Christmas because of the bad economy. People didn’t want to spend money on “frills” or excessive energy use.

For the first time in memory, our Governor, Milton Shapp, decreed that the Christmas tree on the Capitol grounds would not be lighted.

If this happens all over this year, I’ll know FOR SURE that we’re in a depression.


43 posted on 11/20/2008 10:45:28 AM PST by Palladin (Obama on Ayers: "He's just a guy in my neighborhood." LIAR!!!)
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To: Explodo

Look, if you got big bills and expenses, You aint rich.

At 50K if you rent, have no old lady and can sock away some dough??? dude, you aint rich. (Yer ok)

At 100k you got two tenagers drivin yer a$$ up the wall and you can aford to send them elsewhere, You aint rich.

At 150K per year if you got folks livin in yer house earnin less than minimum wage?.. You aint rich.
Who’s rich? somebody must be. I hear they pay a lot in taxes I’m sure to be not invited to thier “social gatherings” but if the top 10% pays 70% I’ll let it slide

Id like to be truley born again, I did my part spiritually. and I don’t owe any body anything. I must suffice with that. LISTEN:

These, the United States of America is over 10 Trillion dollars in debt. No joke, no pun, not funny.
We ride it, hell, it’s our tune, WE allowed this to happen, WE ‘basically’ did nothing, each incomming admin always adresses the debt the same way, “It’S the other guys fault”

Truth: our own, (so called) beaten up economy can kill the debt in short order. We just gotta get tough, hunker down for a year, stop payments to illegal aliens for a year, stop the trough that’s filling the soon to be dead people in Africa,(Aids is not a joke, oops I didnt get that memo...) Stop paying, well there we go... I’ll say it because I just don’t give a shite, FORGO THE NANNY STATE NONSENSE FOR ONE FULL YEAR.

Then disestablish the Fed Res -...
But I’m a dreamer, I hope, ye know fer change, that we’d be free. but alas If I’m lucky I wont get arrested.


44 posted on 11/20/2008 10:46:20 AM PST by ChetNavVet (Build It, and they won't come!)
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To: Explodo

Holding a leftist to their own rules is like trying to nail jello to a wall.

They have no respect for rules, only for outcomes.


45 posted on 11/20/2008 10:48:34 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: silverleaf

“The American dream is increasingly out of reach for many people”

That’s because people who want the dream are unwilling to work for it. Conceive, build, and maintain are how people achieve their dreams.

That’s how Bill Gates and Steve Jobs built their businesses.

“jobs disappearing as a result of global competition”

If people from around the world get useful degrees and have solid marketable skills, they are the ones who will get the jobs. I heard that the Brits are complaining that the Eastern Euros are taking their jobs, but they’re the ones with solid degrees and can speak many languages.

Frankly no one is entitled to a job anymore and that’s way some people are falling and staying behind.

“declining health care coverage”

Health care coverage is expensive, but with all the lawsuits against the medical industry it’s no wonder. Furthermore, there are a lot of people who demand that one thing after another be covered by insurance companies.


46 posted on 11/20/2008 10:49:02 AM PST by Niuhuru (Fine, I'm A Racist and Proud Of It!)
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To: twigs

Challenge any of your lib acquaintances to pay more taxes than required by the current tax rates. If they disagree with the Bush tax cut, they shouldn’t participate in it.


47 posted on 11/20/2008 10:49:51 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: zwerni
everyone who pays taxes will pay more

Remember before the election when someone said the above statement was "racist"? I didn't get it either.

48 posted on 11/20/2008 10:51:12 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Explodo
Doesn't matter if it's 100 or 250, if you own stock, cd's or savings & get any kind of dividends, he's going to kill you with his 39.6% tax on those, so who is he kidding?

When he says, no new tax on those making under "so & so amount" he isn't including all the NEW taxes that will be across the board, no matter how much you make!!!!!

49 posted on 11/20/2008 10:51:30 AM PST by blondee123 (Never acknowledge a Marxist as President of the United States of America!)
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To: mlocher

Oh, don’t forget,

you’ll also be funding the killing of innocent children, sometimes without the consent of the mother,

with your tax money.


50 posted on 11/20/2008 10:53:30 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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