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Some Great Men: Karl Marx
Science Advances, Internet Archive ^ | 1944 | J.B.S. Haldane

Posted on 11/23/2008 5:32:42 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode

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Useful historical background. Good to know a little about those who founded the Modern Synthesis of Evolution.
1 posted on 11/23/2008 5:32:42 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

For some reason I always thought Haldane was a gaseous anesthetic. This article proves I was right.


2 posted on 11/23/2008 5:35:29 AM PST by Hardastarboard (America is so "twenty minutes ago")
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Communism, as well as Nazism, are rooted in the same notions of Darwinism - Communism relying on its economic-political aspects and Nazism on its racial aspects. This is why leftists and secular humanists so harshly attack and ridicule theories like intelligent design, because they undermine the fundamental priciples of their political beliefs- namely, that Mankind has the potential for godlike powers and it only takes the continued social and political evolution of our species for us to ultimately achieve those powers, thereby becoming God. Personally, I am sickened by this.


3 posted on 11/23/2008 5:50:37 AM PST by Apparatchik ("Hope" is not a course of action. "Change" is a not a policy.)
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“Communism, as well as Nazism, are rooted in the same notions of Darwinism”

And Darwinism is rooted in plagiarism.

Could it be that Joe Biden is the true messiah? LOL


4 posted on 11/23/2008 5:55:04 AM PST by devere
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
"We celebrate the anniversary of the great teacher who has shown us the way out of our present distresses, who has demonstrated that there are no limits to the application of science. We can best honour his memory by doing all that we can to hasten the day when Marxism will be the guiding principle in the government of the country in which Marx spent most of his immensely fruitful life."

And how should we celebrate satan's spawn Marx and his perversion which has ruined lives, countries and resulted in the deaths of millions, past, present and future?

5 posted on 11/23/2008 5:55:24 AM PST by GBA
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To: Apparatchik

IMO if man descended from monkeys, it is equally plausible that horses descended from pigs.

This article is better suited to be posted to Huff/Kos/DU


6 posted on 11/23/2008 5:59:03 AM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68 (CALL CONGRESSCRITTERS TOLL-FREE @ 1-800-965-4701)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Wow, the total confidence of this guy. Too bad he couldn’t have lived longer to see his favorite idea fail. This was written in 1944, so it was before the Soviets admitted the failures and atrocities of Lenin and Stalin. I think they admitted them in the late fifties or early sixties. Was he around then? If so, it would be interesting to read his writings from then to watch his gymnastics.


7 posted on 11/23/2008 6:02:41 AM PST by Yardstick
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This is why leftists and secular humanists so harshly attack and ridicule theories like intelligent design, because they undermine the fundamental principles of their political beliefs- namely, that Mankind has the potential for godlike powers and it only takes the continued social and political evolution of our species for us to ultimately achieve those powers, thereby becoming God.

Genetic engineering and molecular electronics. The idea that the artificial manufacture of DNA will enable man to "evolve" into his own creator. This is why the whole tempest in a teapot with embryonic stem cells is so important to them.

This is also why the most fundamental question is ignored by the "scientific community."

What if we create something we cannot get rid of?

8 posted on 11/23/2008 6:03:19 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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And how should we celebrate satan's spawn Marx and his perversion which has ruined lives, countries and resulted in the deaths of millions, past, present and future?

By ruining more lives and countries and killing off millions more, of course.

9 posted on 11/23/2008 6:07:11 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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“Communism, as well as Nazism, are rooted in the same notions of Darwinism”

To me this is an example of the ridiculous extremes that people will go so that they can discredit Darwin, and they only discredit themselves.


10 posted on 11/23/2008 6:08:18 AM PST by Pelagius of Asturias
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Too bad he couldn’t have lived longer to see his favorite idea fail.

Haldane died in 1964. He remained a stalinist.

11 posted on 11/23/2008 6:10:01 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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“humanists so harshly attack and ridicule theories like intelligent design”

When will the IDers start studying all of the other inteligent design “theories?” As long as creation according to Babylonian, Chinese, Cherokee, Indian or other cultures are rejected out of hand, these ID agruments are shown as nothing but religious evangelism, and you all know it.


12 posted on 11/23/2008 6:24:30 AM PST by Pelagius of Asturias
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"No living man has a clearer grasp of the nature of society than Stalin, who has played a leading part in two great changes, the overthrow of capitalism, and the building up of socialism."

Well, I have to admit that he got Stalin's stature right - every 'successful' commie dictator since Stalin has modeled his career after the Great Sun of the Soviet Union.

Although the rhetoric spouted by aspiring revolutionaries leans toward the liberationist, anarcho-syndicalist, and Trotskyite sentiments, in power they universally adopt the proven methods of Stalin - murder, terror, and malignant megalomania.

That's socialism for you!

Geez, I sure hope Obama and the socialistic Democrats don't head in that direction!

13 posted on 11/23/2008 6:26:42 AM PST by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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When I studied theology (catholic), I had to do a semester entitled Contempory Athiesm. I studied Marx, Darwin and Nietzche as well as other scholars who had shaped thought and influenced faith and belief in the modern church. You had to work your way through their writings trying to parse meaning trying to understand what may have been true and what was not. Marx, for example was an historian and his studies on the European peasant revolt and the rise of Luther was very good, indeed fascinating. In his writing you will find some insight and explanation for the popularity and growth of the evangelical movement of today.

Marx’ commentary on the meaning of religion and faith were very challenging. But, if you believe that the best steel comes from the hottest fire you understand the need to study those who so deeply affect and, yet still are part of the mix that sees a strengthening of faith within and around the modern church.

When you suggest that “Communism, Nazism and Darwinism” are the tools of leftists and secular humanists wanting to ridicule intelligent design theories, I begin to wonder. I wonder if you understand any of this at all. I wonder what kind of a God you have created for yourself. Mostly I wonder about how angry and unhappy you must be.

You should not allow what others believe to upset you. If you are solid in your own faith it should allow you to tenderly reach out to others when they seek shelter from the storm. In the meantime, you might enjoy reading Marx. You will find that he not nearly as evil as his press clippings suggest. And, he has never really been a threat to people of good faith.


14 posted on 11/23/2008 6:32:08 AM PST by spatso
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Some years ago, when I used to look at the world through rose-colored eyeballs I was at some toney upper westside NY cocktail party and found myself in the presence of some young kid who called himself a ‘’commited Marxist’’. I said “Marx?’’ This kid seemed delighted, as if he’d found a ‘’commrade’’. I asked him, “Which one, Karl or Groucho?’’ The whole room laughed except for the ‘’Marxist’’.


15 posted on 11/23/2008 6:33:00 AM PST by Longtom
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Karl Marx was a mutt who never did anything that ever benefited humanity. Screw him and anyone who would follow him.


16 posted on 11/23/2008 6:35:49 AM PST by Longtom
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
THE NEXT STEP


17 posted on 11/23/2008 6:42:41 AM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself)
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“Evolutionary scientist J.B.S. Haldane was awarded the Darwin Medal.”

For a moment I thought this was going to be about another funny Darwin Award. Unfortunately, for those who hate their Creator, every death is a Darwin Award. It is always better to pass over that divide striving towards He who is Love itself.


18 posted on 11/23/2008 6:43:38 AM PST by blackpacific
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".....You will find that he not nearly as evil as his press clippings suggest. And, he has never really been a threat to people of good faith."

Tell that to the millions of people that his followers murdered and enslaved.

19 posted on 11/23/2008 6:45:41 AM PST by sport
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To: Iron Munro

It was David Stove, the australian philosopher, who once pointed out that marxists in our universities are preoccupied with, deeply researching, and still looking for (at public expense), a way to impliment marxism without maximizing terror, poverty and oppression.


20 posted on 11/23/2008 6:46:40 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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