Posted on 11/24/2008 7:45:50 AM PST by pissant
Another lawsuit attempting to obtain a copy of Barack Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate was thrown out Friday by a judge who said there was "insufficient evidence to indicate that the public interest supports" the document's release.
Judge Bert Ayabe upheld arguments from Republican Gov. Linda Lingle's office, which, inexplicably, has fought tooth and nail to protect the birth certificate from public scrutiny even though it remains the key to establishing whether the man elected to be the next president is actually eligible under the Constitution.
Ayabe ruled that Andy Martin, the man who filed the suit, did not have standing under state law because he did "not have a direct and tangible interest in the vital statistic records being sought, namely the birth certificate of President Obama."
Yes, you read that right. The judge in the case not only denied the motion, he also elevated Obama to the presidency before the Electoral College votes and before the Inauguration takes place Jan. 20. Is it any wonder he didn't understand the constitutional issues at stake?
But it is that other excuse for not releasing the document that really has me bugged – "insufficient evidence to indicate that the public interest supports" the release.
(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...
With judges like that we won’t even recognize this country in 4 years!
Where there is smoke there is fire. Something is definitely going on here...
CAN YOU IMPEACH A JUDGE FOR BEING STUPID? This is UNBELIEVABLE a judge would be that ARROGANT to call a man WHO IS NOT PRESIDENT the PRESIDENT!!
The “public” has not been informed of these lawsuits; what “no interest” is this fool yammering about? Welcome to Nazi Germany 2008. Joseph Goebbel’s talking from the bench.
“Another lawsuit attempting to obtain a copy of Barack Obama’s Hawaiian birth certificate was thrown out Friday by a judge who said there was “insufficient evidence to indicate that the public interest supports” the document’s release.”
What the bloody hell??
So the law only applies if enough people are interested?
I’d imagine no one was interested in my speeding ticket I got a few years back, if I get another maybe I can use this case as PRECEDENT??
Please, at some point will some attorneys get on this issue for the sake of love of law if no other reason!?!
I’m starting to think that the only person not going completely out of their way to get this nightmare into office is me and my fellow Freepers. Maybe he really did make a deal with Satan. Good Lord.
Not even Hanity, Limbaugh, Ingraham, Mark Levin is talking about this.
For shame on them.
To some appreciable and shameful extent, America no longer has three branches of government.
I’m afraid it’s not going to take 4 years myself.
You know ohio, you are right. With this blatant and outrageous disregard for law, there is SOMETHING being covered up.
I just don’t think anyone is of moral fiber anymore to do anything.
This birth certificate issue makes me want to cry for my nation, literally. Because so many people just don’t care. Including the ones who are paid to protect us.
As Obama said, it was above his pay grade, kick it upstairs.
Hey, folks
“insufficient public interest”
doesn’t mean “there aren’t enough people interested in this”.
“Public interest” means the good of society and the country. And this judge is trying to state that 0bama’s birth citizenship will not adversely affect the country.
You know what? You might be right! Give a ridiculous ruling to give it quick appeal without it being on his head.
I have hope. Yes, it’s a tiny bead, a speck, but it’s there. HOPE!
I agree. Love of law? How’s about respect and honor of the Constitution?
Is Lingle really fighting tooth and nail, or is that just agrandisement? I understood the sealing of the document (to prevent tampering) but why keep it out of the Court? Or is the Supremes’ discussion the only valid recourse? In any event, something doesn’t pass the smell test here.
BTW please forgive the snarky comment, but paragraphs are your friend!
Yes. What’s up with that? Sure, there is the possibility that it’s all legitimate. In that case there is no harm in proving it. No one will look stupid provided they are not claiming that it is fake. They just need to claim that it needs to be proven in order to settle the issue. This should not be remotely controversial.
If it is fake, we have a big problem. If it is real, we can all go forward without this major doubt hanging over the country’s future.
Why hasn’t this been discussed by Rush, Hannity, Savage, Levin, Hedgecock, Malkin, Coulter, or any of the other talk show hosts?? Major cover up going on.
The attempted secrecy is baffling!
Note: PLEASE, everyone go to the link and sign the petition. It is being used by WND to show “public interest”. So far, over 61,000 people have signed. Please send this to friends and family!
Since you can’t get odds for this anywhere on the internet, I’ll give you 20:1. If obama is inaugurated, you give me a dollar, if any of the lawsuits succeed and obama is proven not to be a US Citizen, denying him the Presidency, i’ll give you $20.... exchanged on paypal. private message me if you’re interested. I could use a dollar.
How about a class-action suit and bring thousands of parties????
Jo Farah has started a petition drive. It’s here on FR somewhere. OR go to World Net Daily and poke around.
If a Republican Governor (a supposed close friend of Sarah Palin!) is “fighting tooth and nail” to keep this hidden, then I will know the fix is in.
My only hope (and I don’t understand the fine points of the laws) is that the legal counsel to Gov. Lingle said ‘seal it...only the SCOTUS has jurisdiction.’
We can hold on to that til 12/5 right?
Well, that is even worse!
It’s not worth the public interest to make sure our Assumed President Elect is even eligible???
I gotta say, I recognize it less and less as it is..
I apologize for the lack of paragraphs. When I hit post, it HAD paragraphs. But when it got to the forum, it was jumbled together.
And I do not have a source to link to.
I can see if I can print to pdf the email. Let me email my friend back and get the full forward.
Yes, even if it is fine, he was born here, etc... (even though there is question of him still not being “natural born” since his father was a British subject and his mother was married to him. He would have a case for American citizenship, but not automatic “natural born” status) the silence is DEAFENING.
This is a constitutional issue and not some fruitcake 09/11 George Bush blew up the WTC conspiracy theory. This is a valid legal question, even IF he was born here.
Maybe. Maybe they are afraid that anyone except the SCOTUS would declare it a dead issue. Hold on to it until it gets up there.
I only pray that is the case.
Actually, I pray this man is exposed for the fraud he is. I would even accept a President Biden if I have to, although I would find that hilarious at the people stuck with President Biden after voting for The Odumba.
ABSOLUTELY! Every American citizen eligible to vote has standing to ask for proof that a candidate for ANY public office meets the legal requirements to hold that office. I took an oath to support the Constitution, and I know that I never was released from that oath.
I have written to Justice Thomas imploring him to make sure this issue is dealt with ASAP. My one little letter won’t matter, but a million of them would. Are there a million Americans who care enough about our Constitution to write to the Supreme Court?
You’re absolutely right. It’s already happening.
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The same judge who sees no public interest also sees President Obama. It’s obvious where he’s looking. He gave Martin 2 great reasons to appeal.
WTF?
Ping.
Also, IIRC, it's the law. We had enough of elected officials ignoring the law during the Clinton administration.
50:1, but that’s my final offer. if not wanting the Grand Old Party to be associated with the dangerous likes of Philip Berg constitutes being a “liberal troll” then God help us all. I’m obviously new to FR, after the election, because I want to help rebuild the Party of Reagan. You seem intent upon turning this into a Party of self-parody, a mockery of itself. And I don’t think you’re a conservative, because conservatives aren’t given to being easily fooled by pied pipers like Berg.
Jesus 2.0 born in Kenya......who woulda thought.... /sarcasm
Thank You Patriot08, I hope everyone who views your informative post will act quickly, and contact the gov’t officials of their choice. God Bless America.
I hope so. We’ve got to try.
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