Posted on 11/24/2008 6:36:57 PM PST by rocco55
You’re probably right about that. if his qualifications are being challenged, the burden should be on him to produce documents that may prove he is a natural born citizen. of course, those of us who are following the case have made the inference that his refusal to produce it indicates he has something to hide.
Another avenue that could have been pursued would have been to subpoena the State of Hawaii to produce it, and if it is ultimately determined that it needs to be produced, they then would be in contempt of court if they didnt comply.
and to add to your informative post the only thing that astute readers of FR know is that Lingle is only holding on to a CERTIFICATION of (live) BIRTH.
You mean Indonesia?
Thanks for posting this. My concern is also “two, he submits a fabricated birth cert. “ It will take months for real experts like Polarik to pronounce it a forgery, and in the meantime no one will listen, it will be an unfunded effort, and mistakes will be made.
One thing that could be done ahead of time is for Polarik to post what a forgery would look like, what we should be looking for in the paper copy, and what are the dead giveaways. Then we freepers can hit the ground running.
Someone made a point today about his father not being his father.
I didn’t think that would too big a deal until the point of “Dreams of my father” being based on Barack Obama Sr. Pretty embarassing to admit that was a lie. I mean that is the basis of his popularity and achievement.
Who needs to verify it before we quit chasing this phantom?
The original is in the vault under lock and key by the Governor of Hawaii. I hope she keeps it there until the SCOTUS requests the orginal and it makes it to them under armed guard.
We know two things for certain.
1. Roger Calero was not eligible thus candidates were not properly vetted. If the claim is that it is up to the nominating party to vet then would our founding fathers really believe we should just trust a nominating party?
2. Alan Keyes should have standing and so we should be able to get to the bottom of it from that end.
We were, before the financial meltdown, the most powerful country in the world. The leader of the most powerful nation should have no problem proving that he is eligible to hold that office.. damn that SOB to hell for pulling this stunt on the American People.
Then why cant we see it?
I agree...whatever his origin, as long as its naturalized, the American people would get over it quickly.
However, if his father turned out to be Malcolm X, then you have a story with large/long term ripple effect.
I’ve never thought about the adoption angle or grandpa is really his dad. That would be big headlines.
Would you rather have an illegal nitwit, or a legal nitwit? would you rather respect the constitution, or piss on it?
The proper forum for deciding Obama's qualifications to be president is in the Congress. Noting that the new Congress is solidly Democrat, the outcome is a forgone conclusion.
WHAT has been verified. She did not verify that he was born in Hawaii. read up on the law at the time of Obamanazi’s birth.
It is not inexplicable that the governor of Hawaii is enforcing Hawaii law.
No one has the right to see that document except Barack Obama or his designee, that's the law, the governor is enforcing her laws.
Not only is that not "inexplicable", it's her duty.
That's the way it would go down. The Supreme Court or other court would issue a court order to the state of Hawaii to produce the original long form birth certificate since the state owns the document. Obama would be bypassed.
I rather have an American nitwit than a foreign nitwit.
If I wanted to be ruled by a foreigner, I'd move to their country.
Who says the proper forum is Congress for deciding qualifications to be president.
It is what it is right now with the laws on the books. It is up to the Courts to enforce those laws.
Do you think that if the congress were republican controlled it would take action to disqualify the nation’s first black prez.? I know I don’t. I see them pulling a Trent Lott then patting themselves on the back for it. My personal opinion is that there are too many clucking chickens in congress for it to be considered for a duty such as this. I think that the SCOTUS is the only body in a position to decide this matterin a proper manner, and I hope that they do so. Congress cannot be relied upon, they are run amok.
What have they verified? That there is a birth certificate? Did you know that a resident of Hawaii can have a birth certificate issued even if given birth outside the state, just to let them know upon return?
There is no source saying that THE birth certificate on Obama’s website is legitimate. Just that there is one.
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