Posted on 11/25/2008 11:19:58 PM PST by neverdem
There is absolutely nothing fictitious on my son’s birth certificate. Like I said, I understand you and your child’s birth certificate to be lacking some information and other information replaced because of adoption. But Obama was not adopted so the information on his BC should be accurate.
Difference between Certificate of Live Birth and Certification of Live Birth.
And this statement is so true; Are you afraid that if you were even to raise the subject with your friends that they will think you wear a tinfoil hat, because Factcheck.org, the final arbiter of truth in the universe, said so?
I get “factcheck.org said so” so often I want to bang my head in. But what drives me nuts worse is “Snopes already said he was a citizen”. Ummm, the dumbing down of America has succeeded.
PING to an informational treasure trove!
1.The American Thinker has credibility right? I have heard conservative talk show hosts (Laura Ingraham) source articles from the American Thinker so I know some of radio hosts read these articles.
2. Some where on another thread, a poster shared a response from a Congressman about Obama’s lack of eligibility. Aside form saying it was an internet rumor and not giving it credence the Congressman said he relied on Hawaiian officals who vouched for the birth certificate. Hawaii put out a press release and names two individuals that verified the birth certificate.
I don’t know if we can educate the Congressman and their staffers who are the ones to read these emails but they do not understand why “Under Hawaiian law, it is possible (both legally and illegally)for a person to have born out of state, yet have a birth certificate on file in the Department of Health.” It is outlined so clearly in this article from American Thinker.
I will email Governor Lingle’s office in Hawaii to let them know Congress is relying on their office under a false understanding about Obama’s birth certificate.
Governor Lingle is helping Obama perpetuate the fraud. I know everyone here reading this knows these facts already but we need to keep on questioning these Elected officials.
The truth is stronger than this fraud.
Not quite -- I doubt any state in the union would knowingly destroy an original birth record, no matter what the circumstances.
Georgia certainly doesn't.
(TITLE 31. HEALTH CHAPTER 10. VITAL RECORDS)
(f) When a new certificate of birth is established by the state registrar, the original birth certificate shall not be subject to inspection except as provided in this Code section. All copies of the original certificate of birth in the custody of any other custodian of vital records in this state shall be sealed from inspection and forwarded to the state registrar, as the state registrar shall direct.
(g) The new certificate shall be substituted for the original certificate of birth in the files and the original certificate of birth and the evidence of adoption, legitimation, or paternity determination shall not be subject to inspection except upon order of a court of competent jurisdiction or as provided by statute.
I have to wonder if eventually, his orders to our military will come under similar question. If he is not eligible to be president, then he is not eligible to be Commander in Chief and therefore, all of his orders will be illegitimate. Imagine if our military leaders question his standing as Commander in Chief, and therefore, question his orders. I see lots of issues arising here. This thing needs to be settled and in such a way that no questions remain.
In our country, this is about as serious as it gets.
If the truth comes out about barky and he is thrown out of office, before the melee can start in the streets, Obiden will be proclaimed emperor and all will be well.
It's good for us since he will make such a mess in four years Sarah can easily be elected.
So the stakes are really high. We either get 4 years of an obiden adm.or 8 years of barky and a destroyed country on the other side.
Happy Thanksgiving Pen!
best info we have is that when he was adopted his BC in Honolulu(not that he was born there) was sealed at that time.
Let the chumps riot. We have the guns.
Per the Judge in our case, he ordered the original destroyed; not a new one substituted and the old one archived.
Whether it actually happened, I don’t know.
I heard Berg took the case to the Supreme court and David Souter has ordered Obama to produce a legitimate certified birth certificate by December 1, 2008. Any one else hear that?
I believe it is to show a baby born alive as opposed to a still birth. Some states offer a “Certificate of Birth Resulting in Stillbirth and/or a Fetal Death Certificate”. Some states are pushing for “birth” certificates for stillborn babies. Others just issue death certificates. And if your baby dies at birth you have a birth and a death certificate.
That is why there is a certificate of “LIVE” birth.
I have become obsessed with citizenship because of this. I thought the biggie was the adoption but, from what I have read with regard to the law, a parent cannot renounce citizenship for a child. Only the person himself can renounce citizenship and they would not except that from a 6 yr. old, however, you do not have to be 18 to renounce your citizenship, you just have to be able to comprehend what you are doing.
The forces that be will not allow this issue to be resolved. We have more serious problems than to engage in the equivalent of conspiracy theories. The fact is this braindead marxist won the election now we need to concentrate on taking the country back towards the center right. Wasting time on this issue will not do that.
I don’t agree with you but you are welcome to your opinion!
Unlikely, but possible? Considering his sister was born in Indonisia and has a birth certificate on record in Hawaii (showing place of birth as Indonisia) why is that unlikely. Should say it is very possible considering his sister's BC.
Otherwise a very good article with well stated logic on why O should provide his BC.
I have the understanding that Factcheck.org is owned by the Annenburg group (which was headed by Ayers and Obama).
FactCheck.org is a nonprofit[1], nonpartisan website[2] that describes its own goal as "[reducing] the level of deception and confusion in U.S. politics." It is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the Annenberg School for Communication at the University of Pennsylvania, and is funded primarily by the Annenberg Foundation.[1] from wiki (not a very reliable source itself) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FactCheck
Anybody heard otherwise?
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