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Rod Dreher: Ron Paul, if only we listened
The Dallas Morning News ^ | 2008-11-25 | Rod Dreher

Posted on 11/30/2008 11:16:35 AM PST by rabscuttle385

I didn't vote for Ron Paul in the Republican primary (I was a Mike Huckabee man), nor did I write him in on Election Day (I penciled in farmer-poet Wendell Berry). But no Texan this year did more good for conservatism and his country than the congressman from the coast.

Lord knows there was no Republican in the 2008 campaign who talked straighter.

Dr. Paul – he's a physician – never had a chance, of course. He is too peculiar in his opinions and doesn't know how to spin like a TV slick. What he had was ideas, integrity and authenticity. On the most critical challenges facing America, Dr. Paul was more right than the well-funded GOP regulars who bigfooted the campaign trail.

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TOPICS: Editorial; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2008; conservatism; economy; electionpresident; elections; foreignpolicy; gop; libertarian; lp; ronpaul; tx
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To: rabscuttle385
Article: Dr. Paul has long argued that an economy built on easy credit, insatiable consumption and deficit spending is a time bomb. He backs a national economic model based on savings, investment and production.

I back that economic model, as well. The problem, of course, is centered around the majority of Americans who can't borrow, buy, and save responsibly. It doesn't matter what Dr. Paul argues against. IMHO, three basic groups of voters are driving politics.

One bunch wants handouts for the "wealthy," another wants handouts for the "poor," and the third wants the government to save their 401(k)'s. And all three could not care less how much money the department of the Treasury needs to print to accomplish this madness.

It will be interesting, if I live long enough, to see just how far this idiocy will proceed. Whatever, Dr. Paul- or any other politician- is not going to stop the stupidity that has now become the USSA- United Socialist States of America. Hard times and the threat of imminent destruction might wake up the mob, but I'm not sure about that.
61 posted on 11/30/2008 1:15:49 PM PST by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.-- Mencken)
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To: rabscuttle385

I voted for Ron Paul every chance I had...except the last. I won’t let that exception occur in the future.


62 posted on 11/30/2008 1:16:23 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: rabscuttle385

“Rod Dreher: Ron Paul, if only we listened”

The problem was not Ron Paul, it was the cereal brigade that was the most vocal of his supporters, and that kind of kookery rubs off eventually on the candidate. Heck, he even validated the kooks by going on the radio show of their pied piper leader. It is really sad because he had some very good ideas especially where the economy is concerned.


63 posted on 11/30/2008 1:28:01 PM PST by Grunthor (bush04 - 62, 040, 610 mccain08 - 58, 164, 693.......Moving left is NOT the answer!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Ron Paul is just another clueless surrender monkey indistinguishable as regards national security from the Party of Treason.


64 posted on 11/30/2008 1:29:21 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: djsherin

Credit is an inseperable element of Capitalism.


65 posted on 11/30/2008 1:30:24 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: Perdogg

“The problem with Ron Paul was his foreign policy.”

WRONG! The problem with Bush is he got us into a war that was based on the mythical WMD. Even Colin Powell stated on national TV that the US intelligence was given false information on WMD and sometimes deliberately. This has weighed heavy on Powells mind and may explain some of the reasons why he switched to being an Obama supporter.


66 posted on 11/30/2008 1:31:30 PM PST by doc
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To: LiberConservative

“And he can take back the “Huckabee is fascist” comment while he’s at it.”

Huckafraud is NOT a fascist. He is a nanny-stater. A fascist-lite.


67 posted on 11/30/2008 1:35:21 PM PST by Grunthor (bush04 - 62, 040, 610 mccain08 - 58, 164, 693.......Moving left is NOT the answer!)
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To: doc

If Powell said that, he somewhat contradicted himself from his interview with Tim Russert on MTP on June 10th, 2007.


68 posted on 11/30/2008 1:35:21 PM PST by Perdogg (01-20-2013 Obama's last day - If we make it)
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To: Species8472

I do think that Ron Paul and his supporters could have been handled with a bit more respect. Yes, he can be a bit loony at times, but he’s right about a lot more than most Republicans are willing to admit.

I voted for McCain in the general election, but I did vote for Ron Paul in the primary, because I was not happy with the way conservatives were shut out of the nominating process.


69 posted on 11/30/2008 1:35:49 PM PST by B Knotts (ConservatismCentral.com)
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To: I see my hands
Friends of Truthers are enemies of the US.

SECONDED.

70 posted on 11/30/2008 1:36:16 PM PST by Mr. Silverback ("[Palin] has not even lived in the Lower 48 since 1987. Come on! Really!" --Polybius)
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To: Species8472

“They kicked him (and them) out of the tent, and branded him with a “nutjob” label).”

Too many of his supporters are plainly certifiable. Eventually that stench attaches itself to the candidate that the fruits and nuts love.


71 posted on 11/30/2008 1:38:42 PM PST by Grunthor (bush04 - 62, 040, 610 mccain08 - 58, 164, 693.......Moving left is NOT the answer!)
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To: arrogantsob
Credit is an inseperable element of Capitalism.

Agreed...As water is an indispensable element for sustaining life... Of course, a tidal wave of water or credit can have terrible consequences.
72 posted on 11/30/2008 1:45:12 PM PST by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.-- Mencken)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Actually...Paul is not anti-trade. He is a Libertarian, so he naturally is pro-free trade (unfortunately, whether such free trade is destructive for America or not).


73 posted on 11/30/2008 1:46:33 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (2010: A RINO Purge Odyssey)
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To: mcshot

I think Ron Paul served a purpose in this campaign that may pay dividends in the future. Many young people who normally would grow up into nanny staters have been introduced to some conservative principles because of their association with the Ron Paul movement.


74 posted on 11/30/2008 1:49:32 PM PST by Zevonismymuse
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To: Perdogg
The problem with Ron Paul was his foreign policy.

So the foreign policy of pouring a trillion dollars into Iraq, mortgaging our nation's future, is somehow not "a problem?"

75 posted on 11/30/2008 1:50:07 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Piers-the-Ploughman

Your post makes sense...unfortunately some on here will accuse you of being pro-terrorist and anti-war

Going to war in Iraq was a good idea...however GWB lost his committment to win it...and prefered playing liberal globalist social engineer instead.

Then, McCain comes up with his “we’ll stay in Iraq 100 years”....real stupid...and no committment to win


76 posted on 11/30/2008 1:50:53 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (2010: A RINO Purge Odyssey)
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To: rabscuttle385

N-i-c-e deconstruction.

Should be read and digested by every so/con as we move foward to wrest the party from the filthy hands of these imposters.


77 posted on 11/30/2008 1:57:50 PM PST by Liz (The right to be left alone is the beginning of freedom. USSC Justice William O. Douglas)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

It is strange that to be against a prolonged land war, waged with American blood to “bring democracy” to a bunch of nutty Islamic nations (if Clinton did this, it’s “nation-building”) who have very peculiar ideas about truth, as opposed to cutting taxes and taking on the libs over immigration, global warming, energy etc that some FReepers will bash me as pro-terrorist. Yeah, we have different priorities, no doubt, but to say I am pro-terrorist (and you’re right, I have elicited such responses) is absurd and if that is how conservatives wish to debate it is no wonder we lost the moderate vote, which we need some of every election to win.
I will say: we should not let any more Muslims/Arabs in this country and kick out all we can legally, let their visas expire, no more jobs, etc. But then, they will work for less money in scientific/academic professions than Americans, so Uncle Sam wants them here. Yeah, I am pro-terrorist.


78 posted on 11/30/2008 2:03:11 PM PST by Piers-the-Ploughman (Just say no to circular firing squads.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Going to war in Iraq was a good idea...

Whatever history thinks about this comment, I happen to agree with it, GDubya will go to his grave defending his decision as the correct one-- provided the US is spared another 9/11 type massive assault prior to sometime on the afternoon of Jan. 20, 2009.
79 posted on 11/30/2008 2:11:55 PM PST by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.-- Mencken)
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To: arrogantsob

There’s good credit and bad credit or in other words credit based on savings and credit created from the stroke of a pen. No one is saying credit has to go.


80 posted on 11/30/2008 2:15:02 PM PST by djsherin (The federal government:: Because someone has to f*** things up!)
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