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Barack, The Amazing Mr. Obama (PRAVDA GETS IT!)
Pravda ^ | 12/2/2008 | Mark S. McGrew

Posted on 12/02/2008 8:33:46 AM PST by FreeAtlanta

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To: El Cid
And the 'Soviet Union' (ok, 'Russia'), is becoming more capitalist

Which isn't to say that they're becoming more free...not as long as Putin's thugocracy continues to run things there.

41 posted on 12/02/2008 9:48:20 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (ACORN is a criminal enterprise)
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To: Cicero
But beyond all of that controversy, there is one subject in this man’s activities that is truly astounding: There is absolutely no proof whatsoever that his beloved grandmother actually died on the day before the election as his campaign said she did. He said he would attend her funeral “In a few days”. He never did. Then he said he would have a funeral for her around the end of the year. What kind of person keeps their grandmother’s body on ice for two months? What kind of a person would play on the death of his grandmother to win “the sympathy vote”? Where is the proof that she died when she said she did? Normally, we could simply learn from the local coroner of a well known person’s death. But the only public comment made by the Honolulu Medical Examiner, who acts as coroner in Honolulu, Hawaii was, “We didn’t work that case.”

Is she the same grandmother who's allegedly on tape as saying that she was present at the O-Hole's Kenyan birth?
42 posted on 12/02/2008 9:52:11 AM PST by RetroSexual
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To: Smokin' Joe
Yep! Succinct and accurate analysis.
43 posted on 12/02/2008 9:53:48 AM PST by khnyny ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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To: FreeAtlanta
This article is found by searching GoogleNews!

ML/NJ

44 posted on 12/02/2008 10:00:32 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Which isn't to say that they're becoming more free...not as long as Putin's thugocracy continues to run things there.

True.
But given the trajectories our countries or on, it wouldn't surprise me if we eventually cross paths in this direction also (e.g., 'Intimidation of anyone who speaks against the anointed leaders'; Obama's 'internal police' force ... admittedly he probably was just blowing smoke -- but who knows to what delusions our homegrown marxists aspire).

45 posted on 12/02/2008 10:00:40 AM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Yes, the deceased Grandma thing is creepy.

NannaGate


46 posted on 12/02/2008 10:04:29 AM PST by IrishPennant (He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else.)
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To: RetroSexual

No. It was the paternal grandmother who claimed the Deity-elect was born in Kenya and that she was present at his birth.

If we could determine the exact whereabouts of Stanley Ann Dunham on August 4,1961 we could settle this mystery.

Obama Nation author Jerome Corsi was recently expelled from Kenya. Now that he has recovered from his surgery, perhaps he could shed some light on this issue.


47 posted on 12/02/2008 10:07:16 AM PST by Welcome2thejungle
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To: mosaicwolf

I agree with you. The naive nitwits who voted for BHO scare me more than the Deity-elect himself.

Some members of my own family included I’m sorry to admit.


48 posted on 12/02/2008 10:11:02 AM PST by Welcome2thejungle
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To: IrishPennant

Better yet, Tootgate.


49 posted on 12/02/2008 10:14:21 AM PST by Welcome2thejungle
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To: Welcome2thejungle

Sounds better...


50 posted on 12/02/2008 10:18:10 AM PST by IrishPennant (He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else.)
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To: Cicero
That was new to me too. There was speculation here on FR, but no one, that I saw, actually came out and said it.

In the old days, Obama would have been called a “snake oil salesman”.

51 posted on 12/02/2008 10:56:32 AM PST by Humal
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To: Humal
Yes, of course there was speculation. It was amazingly convenient that his grandmother, who had been kept under virtual house arrest for more than a year and never interviewed by the press, died the day before the election.

But there's a new angle here, as well. As far as I know, this reporter is the first to have bothered to call the coroner and ask about the circumstances and date of her death.

But the only public comment made by the Honolulu Medical Examiner, who acts as coroner in Honolulu, Hawaii was, “We didn’t work that case.”

The response is very similar to the one given by the official concerning the existence of Obama's original vault certificate, under seal. Basically, answering the question by dodging the question. Why didn't he work on that case? Who did work on that case? Did anybody work on that case? Is she in fact even dead? The response tells us nothing.

52 posted on 12/02/2008 11:40:19 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

“...who had been kept under virtual house arrest for more than a year...”

I hadn’t heard that. Just assumed because of her health, the press didn’t bother her. The African grandmother has been moved to an undisclosed location to keep her from the press.


53 posted on 12/02/2008 11:45:18 AM PST by Humal
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To: Humal

Well, to be honest, it’s my reading of the situation. Contacts with any of his family members havve been closely watched and controlled. The Illegal great aunt in Boston said she couldn’t tell The Times anything about Obama before election day—and then she was moved to a safe location in another city and has stayed out of sight ever since. The African grandmother gave one story to the press in 2007, about the whole family being Muslim, then last summer said they were Christian, and now, as you say, she has been squirreled away. Indeed it seems as if anyone in Kenya who knows anything is being sealed away from the press.


54 posted on 12/02/2008 12:04:54 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Aquinasfan; Frantzie
LOL! Pravda is more objective than the NY Times, WPO, CNN, FOX, ABC. CBS, NBC, MSNBC, LA Times, etc! Amaazing! And disgusting.

Disgusting, yes. But not surprising. Our beloved MSM has long taken a lesson from the Soviet era Pravda, we've come full circle.

55 posted on 12/02/2008 1:11:53 PM PST by fortunecookie (Please pray for Anna, age 7, who waits for a new kidney.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

This may be an early indication of the disrespect of the questionable legitimacy of the US President-elect internationally. If he does not produce a full portfolio of vital missing documentation; birth certificate, college admission records, passports, medical records, etc. to prove he is legal under US Constitution, he will be viewed as illegitimate and irrelevant both here and abroad.

The whole world is watching.


56 posted on 12/02/2008 1:32:09 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: El Cid

Russia has a flat tax of 13% and is running a budget surplus too.


57 posted on 12/02/2008 1:44:48 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Cicero

“But the only public comment made by the Honolulu Medical Examiner, who acts as coroner in Honolulu, Hawaii was, “We didn’t work that case.”

This “grandmother” angle tarnished the credibility of an article otherwise crafted very potently. Coroners typically don’t get involved in deaths unless they are under suspicious circumstances or involve out-of-state residents etc. If grandma’s doctor signed her death certificate, there would be no reason for a coroner to get involved. So perhaps Pravda is just naive on this point or deliberately deceitful. The same goes with the “kept on ice” comment. There WAS a memorial service held for grandma—announced in advance!—as even a most cursory Google search shows:

“A memorial service for President-elect Obama’s grandmother, Madelyn Payne Dunham, will be held at the National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific in Honolulu Friday.

The service, which is open to the public, will begin at 5:00 p.m. but the Obama family will not be in attendance.

Obama’s campaign says the president-elect will visit Hawaii in December to honor his grandmother, who helped raise him in Honolulu and died two nights before the election.”
http://www.khnl.com/global/story.asp?s=9338752&ClientType=Printable

In short, this particular piece of the story smacked of the sort of “disinformation” typically of Soviet propaganda; this permits Obamaphiles to just dismiss the story as a distorted attack.


58 posted on 12/02/2008 3:44:47 PM PST by DrC
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To: FreeAtlanta
The tragic irony of this appearing in Pravda is simply beyond words .. a terrible weight on an aging patriot's heart
59 posted on 12/02/2008 3:54:47 PM PST by tomkat ( . . heirloom hardwood handmirrors . .)
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To: DrC

Thanks. It’s hard to know what to believe when the media don’t report on any of this.

Sure, it’s mostly of interest to people in Honolulu, but since it’s Barack’s grandmother, you’d expect the MSM to mention it. They don’t, since it might reflect badly on him that he isn’t bothering to attend the funeral.


60 posted on 12/02/2008 3:55:04 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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