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Hospitals in Hawaii to Obama: You Were Not Born Here!
Earth Frisk ^ | Dec 2, 2008 | admin

Posted on 12/02/2008 7:30:36 PM PST by ckilmer

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Hospitals in Hawaii to Obama: You Were Not Born Here!

 Obama birth certificate deadline

Supposed Conspiracy Claim Turns REAL on Obama

It is becoming painfully obvious that we may very well have a criminal President in 2009.  No this isn’t a joke. What I speak of is the curious developments in the supposedly racist, biased, dumb,  as well as insane case of where Obama was born.  Why the Barack Obama Birth Certificate Issue Is Legitimate

A strange development indeed is how it is that every time Barack Obama or a family member tells of where Obama was born, they seem to have no idea as of December 2008.

They seemed to know what hospital quite a few times months ago when it was claimed that Obama’s mother gave birth to him at Queens Medical Center in Honolulu - Obama and Mom Never Here

The Queen’s Medical Center
1301 Punchbowl StreetHonolulu, HI 96813  Link to Site
Phone number 808-538-9011 General Medical Records 808-547-4361.

After it was concluded that Obama and his mother were never there, his sister was in an interview (Mary) and claimed that Obama was born at  Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children - Obama and Mom Never Here 1319 Punahou StreetHonolulu, Hawaii 96826(808) 535-7000  Link to site

Hospital after Hospital - all Have No Record of Obama being born or Mom Ever being There. 

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Hospital after hospital in Honolulu all have NO RECORD of Obama or mother ever being there.   Is this some state secret? Are we to believe that even the hospital that he was born in should remain secret? Why lie to us as if it matters I mean the man did win the Presidential vote? Why the lies and secrecy?

We already know that Obama’s family and the entire nation of Kenya (which is about to have a national holiday for Obama) know that Barack Obama was born in Mombasa Coastal Hospital in Kenya. The government of Kenya has sealed these records.  More and more secrecy due to the fact that once proven, Obama will not be constitutionally allowed to become President of the United States!

All of these were called from November 20 - December 2nd 2008. It is confirmed, OBAMA not born in any hospital in Honolulu County! NONE FACT!

Hospitals you can check yourself

We were pretty detailed in our calls.  You can look at every hospital here and call any of them.  You can file freedom of information acts, you can do everything and anything you wish.  Barack Obama was never born in a hospital in Hawaii as claimed.

Only his original that he has sealed will have this info.  Will the Supreme Court force it open and thus preserve the Constitution of the United States?

Why the Barack Obama Birth Certificate Issue Is Legitimate

Hawaii Issues Birth Certificates to Foreign Born Residents!

Here’s Hawaii saying it like it it. All Doubts Cleared my Friends.

A. From Hawaii’s official Department of Health, Vital Records webpage: “Amended certificates of birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as provided by law, for 1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or 2) a person born in a foreign country (applies to adopted children). 
B. A parent may register an in-state birth in lieu of certification by a hospital of birth under HRS 338-5.
C. Hawaiian law expressly provides for registration of out-of-state births under HRS 338-17.8.  A foreign birth presumably would have been recorded by the American consular of the country of birth, and presumably that would be reflected on the Hawaiian birth certificate.
D. Hawaiian law, however, expressly acknowledges that its system is subject to error.  See, for example, HRS 338-17.
E. Hawaiian law expressly provides for verification in lieu of certified copy of a birth certificate under HRS 338-14.3.
F. Even the Hawaii Department of Home Lands does not accept a certified copy of a birth certificate as conclusive evidence for its homestead program.  From its web site:  “In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.”

Now that we all understand that you can be born in Madagascar, Russia, Norway, Brazil or even Kenya like Obama and still have a REAL birth certificate that both Snopes and Factcheck would say was real since they are real. That doesn’t mean you were born in Hawaii. Does this matter to America?

Barack Obama has as of November 27th 2008 spent over$500,000 U.S. to prevent others from seeing it. Why? Didn’t he already win the vote?

Please don’t bring up Snopes (link) that says THEYVE SEEN Obama’s birth certificate and it is the one on his site called Fight the Smears. That is just plain garbage as it has a 2007 border and doesn’t list the hospital, Dr. or place of birth!  Plus they say they’ve seen his real birth certificate (you know the one that we the people aren’t allowed to see) .

All of the people born in Korea, Kenya, Mongolia, Australia and who also have Hawaiian birth certificates also have REAL birth certificates.

This does not mean they were born in Hawaii. Get it?

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The following is what Obama has on his site as his real birth certificate authenticated by Snopes and Factcheck. Hmmm - 2007 borders, no info on original at all? What’s wrong with this picture? Yes it is a real birth certificate, so are the tens of thousands of other birth certificates given to people born in other countries.

Barack Obama birth certificate supreme court

Please don’t bring up Fact Check either (link) as they and Snopes can literally LOOK AT the thousands and thousands of birth certificates in Hawaii from people born in Korea, Australia, Germany and even Kenya like Barack Obama!  They are all REAL and Authentic birth certificates, but that doesn’t mean Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

Snopes and FactCheck aren’t lying when they say the 2007 birth certificate on Obama’s site is real.  So are the thousands and thousands of birth certificates in Hawaii from people born in Korea, Australia, Germany and even Kenya like Barack Obama!  They are all REAL and Authentic birth certificates, but that doesn’t mean they or Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

This is the whole point my friends.  That is why many of us are incensed that Obama is about to become the President and may not even Constitutionally qualify to be one!

This is unacceptable to every American who understands that Hawaii issues birth certificates to those born in foreign nations.

Yes - it is a proven fact that Hawaii grants birth certificates to people born in other nations! If you or I want a copy, they produce the document that you see on Obama’s site.  That is NOT the one that has what we need to see to have Obama become President of the United States.

To become President of the United States one must meet 3 criteria.  

  • You must be 35 years of Age
  • You must be a resident for 14 years
  • You must be a natural born citizen - this is the one that someone born outside of the United States would obviously spend hundreds of thousands $$ to prevent us from seeing his birth certificate, just as Barack Obama has done.   Hint Hint.

What is Barack Obama Hiding? Can anyone answer the question as to where and what hospital he was born in?

Time is ticking and it looks like all hope is on the Supreme Court on Friday when they review a csase before them designed to force Obama to release his birth certificate.  December 5th 2008 is the deadline for them to meet.

No One Checks these People’s backgrounds at all? 

There is in fact NO ONE that checks. That is part of the lawsuits before the Supreme Court against the DNC as well as Obama. All they do is ask the state of birth if they have a real birth certificate on file and what the date of birth is. That is ALL! This is the whole point of the matter.

We even had other candidates run for the Presidency in minor parties like this guy - who ran for President against Obama and McCain but WAS BORN IN NICARAGUA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%B3ger_Calero
Understand that there is no one that makes sure like a national HR dept that candidates are qualified. Róger Calero was the Socialist Workers Party Candidate.

He Ran and no one checked on his background either

Róger Calero was also arrested for felonies - another reason that he should not have even been allowed to even run for the Presidency in America. FACT.  By the way he (Róger Calero) was on the ballot in five states, where he received 7,209 votes. Coupled with the 2,618 votes received in the five states where Harris was on the ballot, the Socialist Workers Party received 9,827 votes.  No one checked his qualifications either. No one does!

We need to see Obama’s ’sealed’ birth certificate to clear all of the lies.

See:  Shocker: Why Obama WILL NOT Be President in January



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bidenpotus; birthcertificate; certifigate; conman; constitution; crawly; creepy; crook; fraud; kenyanfraud; obama; obamacon; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; snake; snakeoil; supremecourt; thekenyan; tic; whathospitalzero; zerothealien
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To: Jess Kitting

BHO is not bothered with telling different stories to different people at different times.

The current you tube and cell phone cameras are messing him up.


301 posted on 12/02/2008 10:46:57 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: jla

I am not in any way, shape or form convinced that Obama is inelgible to serve. How could I be? I do not have access to the facts, nor am I an expert in that area of the law.

That said, there do appear to be significant questions here. For one thing, this controversy has made it abundantly clear that there is NO MECHANISM FOR ENFORCING THE CONSTITUTIONAL STANDARD.

The parties (or the candidate!) have the nominal responsibility to somehow, to some unknown degree, by someone unknow process and procedure “declare” the candidate is constitutionally eligible, but NO ONE has been able to discover that process or challenge it.

Is that sufficient in light of the constitutional harm that would result from failure to determine eligibility? NO.

From that point alone, it is worth getting this issue to daylight. We need some way to official and publicly vet the eligibility of candidates (or at least President and VP selects), and a way to challenge that vetting and a remedy. Even if the SCOTUS says only that and gets Congress to take action, this will have been worth it.

I am not comfortable knowing that some dumb party hack on either side of the aisle is rubberstamping “natural born citizen” on whichever dude they think can win or has won.


302 posted on 12/02/2008 10:48:14 PM PST by fightinJAG (TWO BIG BUSH TAX CUTS EXPIRE AT THE END OF 2008. Happy New Year, love, President Obama)
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To: potlatch
It would have to be a massive attempt by hundreds of thousands at the same time - like not filing income tax -

Potlatch, I've been advocating for that very thing for a while now. I suggest that ten million American taxpayers simultaneously refuse to pay. Name a date, and everyone on board stops funding their own enslavement on that same day.

Ten million protesters is a revolution, which cannot be prosecuted. I say hold out long enough to force the government to actually give us the representation that We The People are clearly lacking in government.

303 posted on 12/02/2008 10:48:46 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: eyedigress

Interesting that his black grandmother in Kenya said that BHO was born in Kenya.

Then his white grandmother never reversed that fact when she was alive.


304 posted on 12/02/2008 10:49:36 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: spokeshave

Thanks, spokeshave. I’ll check it out. Hope you don’t mind, I made a clickable link:

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/11/exclusive_did_n.html


305 posted on 12/02/2008 10:51:26 PM PST by LucyT
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To: BIGLOOK

I don’t know if there are actual records (as opposed to internet buzz) about Anne’s travels during that time and shortly after.

She is said to have been in Kenya and then she went to Washington State shortly after Obama was born.

This situation is the strangest fact pattern ever.


306 posted on 12/02/2008 10:52:06 PM PST by fightinJAG (TWO BIG BUSH TAX CUTS EXPIRE AT THE END OF 2008. Happy New Year, love, President Obama)
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To: wintertime

“Those children are really out of luck in a lot ways later in life.Those children are really out of luck in a lot ways later in life.”

So are you saying like those who were not born in U.S. hospitals like children of illegal immigrants who do not have SS#’s?

They can get ALL the financial benefits of the U.S. and do not have birth certificates. They can get ALL the illegal protections of the U.S. with no official birth certificate.

The socialism of the Democrat party has ensured ALL can get the benefits of living in this country. NO birth certificate or citizenship document needed.


307 posted on 12/02/2008 10:52:43 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and may have doomed us for a generation or more.)
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To: fightinJAG
Do the Dunhams want to support Ann and their grandchild by making sure it’s known that he’s not illegitimate (thus, the birth announcement in the paper)?

The birth announcement in the paper has NOTHING to do with the parents or grandparents.

The State routinely supplied the list of birth registrations to the newspaper for publication.

You will note that they are all minimal information - no flowery congratulations or celebrations of a new family member - these were NOT placed by the family.

Therefore the announcement in the newspaper is of no importance whatsoever. It merely endorses the fact that his birth was registered in Hawaii, which we already know.

It doesn't say anything about WHERE he was born, and he could have been born outside the US and still be registered by his Hawaiian resident parent(s).

308 posted on 12/02/2008 10:52:44 PM PST by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: pepperhead
"Interesting considering the 57 state gaffe. Wonder if this issue was on his mind at the time the gaffe happened.

....because there are 57 islamic states around the world....

....anyone that studied at a madrassa in Indonesia would know that....

309 posted on 12/02/2008 10:53:10 PM PST by spokeshave (0bambi wants to kill babies and raise taxes, Sarah wants to raise babies and kill taxes)
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To: BIGLOOK

Did the white grandmother ever contradict the black Kenyan grandmother that said BHO was born in Kenya ?

or note which Hawaiian hospital handled the birth ?


310 posted on 12/02/2008 10:53:40 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Sharrukin

What happens if they rule him ineligible after he is sworn in as President?

***

WHO KNOWS ???

If they rule him ineligible, then they MIGHT rule that he was NEVER POTUS (even though he was sworn in) and ALL laws, rules, appontments, etc. made since 20 Jan. 2009 would have to be rolled back.

Would they then devolve to McCain - all the way back to the Electoral College (using the House of Representatives per the 12th Amendment) or devolve to Biden (per the 25th Amendment) ???

Good question ...


311 posted on 12/02/2008 10:54:03 PM PST by Lmo56
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To: spokeshave
.because there are 57 islamic states around the world....

While you are on that tack, Michelle 0bama revealed in an interview with People Magazine last summer that they do not buy birthday or Christmas gifts for their children.

Now check out which religions don't celebrate birthdays or Christmas...

312 posted on 12/02/2008 10:56:45 PM PST by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: pray4liberty
Next thing Obama will say is that, actually, he was mistaken, he was born in San Francisco. /sarc

We already know BHMO turned in mendacious paperwork for his bar exam, in which he claimed he'd never gone by any other names than BHO.

For this adventure, Barry may have thought, "Heck, Johnny McLame's got birth issues bein' born in the canal zone, I'll get ahead of this one by putting this one to rest with a convincing COLB, with the same info I had doctored up to submit with my first passport, back in '85. Nobody's gonna ever see the one Toot had to keep quiet about--now that she's out of the way, too."

"There is No Law that Will Stop Obama from Becoming President!" Me-shell 0bambi to API.

Me thinks she doth protest too much.

HF

313 posted on 12/02/2008 10:57:06 PM PST by holden
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To: BIGLOOK

In the next episode of “His Life as a Soap Opera,” we discover that Frank Marshall was Obama’s father, but by the time he was born, Ann was in love with Barack, who then adopted (or said he would adopt?) the baby.

Or Ann married Barack and then gave birth to Frank Marshall’s baby which, under most laws at the time, would make Barack the legal father by reason of the marriage.

Or . . . well, we get the point.


314 posted on 12/02/2008 10:57:06 PM PST by fightinJAG (TWO BIG BUSH TAX CUTS EXPIRE AT THE END OF 2008. Happy New Year, love, President Obama)
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To: Yaelle

“Obama’s grandmother on his father’s side, half brother and half sister claim Obama was born in Kenya,”

As to a paper trail that is less likely after all this time and the Kenyan government has sealed the Mombasa hospital records so no one can check those.


315 posted on 12/02/2008 10:58:02 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: ckilmer

i REALLY LIKE this thread.
i’ve been following this story for months


316 posted on 12/02/2008 10:58:48 PM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Good Morning Mr & Mrs Scooter and All The Ships At Sea)
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To: george76

Yea...I missed that Funeral much like BO.


317 posted on 12/02/2008 10:58:56 PM PST by eyedigress (All I want for Christmas is a nice blue barrel rifle.)
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To: pepperhead

Just about the time FDR went on teevee, too, eh?


318 posted on 12/02/2008 10:59:11 PM PST by fightinJAG (TWO BIG BUSH TAX CUTS EXPIRE AT THE END OF 2008. Happy New Year, love, President Obama)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

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319 posted on 12/02/2008 11:02:07 PM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Good Morning Mr & Mrs Scooter and All The Ships At Sea)
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To: awake-n-angry
This is a no starter. This fight cannot be won. Move on.

I suggest that you MoveOn, as in get off the thread if you don't like the topic.

You MoveOn Freepers are starting to look like a sleeper cell.

320 posted on 12/02/2008 11:02:25 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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