Posted on 12/03/2008 11:57:31 AM PST by redk
The danger of special elections and run-offs is that they invite analysts to impute some sort of national significance or trend to their outcomes. Sometimes, like in the string of Republican victories that preceded their 1994 revolution, this kind of analysis is warranted. But in the case of yesterday's Senate run-off in Georgia, it most certainly is not.
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I understand what a REAGAN conservative is... I also understand that if you don't get up off your a$$ and try to change your party, then you deserve the candidate you get. The GA GOP ran Saxby against Cleland... Hell, not much of a choice there... Cleland spent 6 years voting lock-step with Clinton & Kennedy... good riddance...
I VOTED REPUBLICAN... And I went to the polls yesterday and voted for Chambliss... The GOP didn't give us the best choice, but I'd rather agree with the guy 60%-75% of the time and be satisfied that we can debate on the remainder... And I'm going to work my a$$ off over the next 2 years to make sure there's a candidate that runs against Isakson...
And thank you for listening... You don't have to be courteous... I suppose I haven't earned that... But none the less, I agree with your conclusion that we have to do what needs to be done to improve our party...
Barry was a typical Libertarian, they look conservative on some issues, but fail miserably everywhere else. Look at his positions later in life, after he teamed up with his teeny bopper trophy wife.
Hmm, must have struck a nerve somewhere... “the truth... you can’t handle the truth” saw that in a movie once (or twice), but it seems appropriate at the moment.
Fair enough.
I appreciate and largely agree with your explanation of things.
I was using you and one other poster to make a point about how we might best go about changing things for the better.
I do want more conservative candidates in our high offices. I spent a lot of time suffering under RINO senators in Ohio.
I speak with some personal ignorance myself but we need to better understand how the Republicans pick candidates initially. We don’t seem to be getting good options up front.
I don’t want our good intentions to be used against us.
I’m not sure you are on to the truth and think I might be getting closer.
The perfect Conservative argument can be used to bring democrats to power. I think its hard to believe that this has not been an active strategy since at least 2006.
I think these criticisms have to be measured against the democratic alternative.
The margin of victory is sign that pendulum is already swinging back in the GOP’s direction. I expected 2010 to be very good year for Republicans.
...I think these criticisms have to be measured against the democratic alternative...
You said it but you haven’t grasped it, your last statement is the reason we (conservatives)are in this position.
You can not win elections through fear (’06 & ‘08). You must stand for something and right now all I see is Dem and Dem Lite... the republicans veered so far towards left that I don’t think the party can recover.
Since my first vote (for Da Man) I busted my a$$ assisting the Repubs in getting total control of the House... the Senate... and wait for it... The White House, and what did they do with it.... Nothing of note besides the WOT.
I think saying nothing has been done is part of perhaps I hope passive cooperation with the Media that hypes Democratic party leftist politics.
There need to be specific alternatives spelled out in the primary process that bring more conservative candidates to the top ahead of moderate Republicans.
After that, I honestly don’t much care. We should install every Republican possible even if that means chugging toward socialism at 100 mph instead of 200 mph.
We all know how bad leftist, statist, socialist nonsense garbage is. But our principals are being played against us. The democratic congress of 2006 was a gift of angry conservatives upset about immigration. WEll.
Where is the reality check for us conservatives?
Letting democrats win cannot help us nor does it purify us as people keep lying toward that end.
The primaries are the only legitimate purification process.
I disagree, the current primary system is what got us McCain via northern Libs & so called Mods and the media, chugging a 100 mph towards socialism is still going towards socialism, and in the end “the lessor of two evils” is still evil.
The only thing that can reverse our current course... The Constitution and Principles.
At the moment no one knows didly squat about Republican prospects. We’ll all know quite a bit after about a year of BO.
I don't think that says much about their confidence in either Saxby (who has really alienated a lot of people over his recent votes) or the GOP. It does indicate that the Dems haven't really won people's trust.
It helps us note that Obama drove african-american turnout in many places. Without that in 2010 we can do a better job in winning some races. eg NC may be an easier race for Burr than it was for Dole, etc.
JMHO.
Hey! Don't get me wrong! If I were a chick, I'd have a Goldwater Girl bumper sticker on my truck! =)
But like you say, he got killed in one of the most conservative periods of postwar histry, and you are so right that single-issuers would destry his likes today.
Even further, I strongly maintain that Ronald Reagan himself would've lost to BHO in 2008 in these conditions....with the Reagan Democrats dissolved into commie unions and whatnot.
We know that the Clintons are going to be heavily involved in it, so that should unite the Party again.
Isn’t it amazing how whenever a rat wins an election it portends doom and gloom for the Republicans?
Well.... it was.
If I remember my history, the mid-terms after a Presidential election usually benefit the minority party. In '94 (the first mid-term after Clinton won), there was a "sea change" and the Republicans won the House for the first time in 40 years. I don't know that they'll win it back in '10 but they can hopefully gain some ground. Personally, I'm more interested in solidifying our Senate firewall.
And this time it isn’t? hmmmmm
The era of Great Society projects was clearly quite hostile to true (i.e. fiscal) conservatism.
The late 50’s and early JFK 60’s were much different than the picture of anti-war LBJ era of the later 60s.
Who knows how things would’ve appeared had JFK survived.
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