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War Crimes and Other Misdemeanors [Vietnam, do NOT read unless prepared to be angered]
Chicago Reader ^ | December, 2008 | Michael Miner

Posted on 12/04/2008 4:31:32 PM PST by SJackson

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I hesitated to post, but it's a new book, so we'll be hearing about it.

I didn't serve there, so I haven't any direct knowledge, but this doesn't comport with what I've been told from friends who did in any way.

No, I don't think she's the Edwards delegate who switched to The One.

1 posted on 12/04/2008 4:31:32 PM PST by SJackson
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2 posted on 12/04/2008 4:34:52 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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I just heard the John Kerry was in Viet Nam. Is that correct?


3 posted on 12/04/2008 4:37:35 PM PST by LiberConservative
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Yes, but this time from a Pulitzer prize winning journalist/academic, so she has some credibility


4 posted on 12/04/2008 4:39:28 PM PST by SJackson (http://www.jewish-history.com/emporium/)
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Liberals do not understand warfare at any level. Further, they automatically assume that a civilian during a war, has the right to about the country side, when and where they please.

The truth is that the military operates under different levels of engagement to meet different threats. At times, there are “free fire zones”, meaning that if anything is in that area and it is moving .... it dies. Cause we are not going to take the risk. One example of a modern free fire zone is the 3rd fence in a NBC bunker. If you make it far enough to get inside the 3rd fence, you die. Period, end of discussion.

Liberals can’t abide the thought that there is some place that they cant go ... some thing they cant see, some action they cant take, some information they cant know.


5 posted on 12/04/2008 4:40:27 PM PST by taxcontrol
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"I didn't serve there, so I haven't any direct knowledge"

I did and can absolutely state that the conduct of the American troops there was above reproach. I NEVER witnessed any deliberate acts of violence against civilians by American forces, but the same cannot be said about the NVA and the Viet Cong. Often it was difficult to determine the difference between a civilian and an "insurgent" as they are now called as a result took unnecessary casualties.

It is about time that a book was written about the thousands of unnecessary and innocent American casualties who died as a direct result of the American left and MSM giving comfort, aid, and encouragement to an otherwise defeated enemy!

6 posted on 12/04/2008 4:40:40 PM PST by Natural Law
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Yes, but he missed the Winter Soldier meeting in Detroit, so it's not his fault he lied in front of Congress.

Besides, what's a little lie when you aspire to political office.

7 posted on 12/04/2008 4:40:47 PM PST by SJackson (http://www.jewish-history.com/emporium/)
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These traitors lost us the war, and they’re still stabbing US troops in the back. Has this old hippie written any books about Viet Cong and NVA atrocities??


8 posted on 12/04/2008 4:41:25 PM PST by ozzymandus
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unless its about a Kenyan’s birth certificate.... then its a non-issue or a tinfoil hat conspiracy with no merrit.


9 posted on 12/04/2008 4:42:09 PM PST by Operation_Shock_N_Awe (I'd rather be a conservative nut job than a liberal with no nuts and no job)
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A Pulitzer prize proves no “credibility” whatever. It’s totally politicized, like the Nobel “Peace” prize.


10 posted on 12/04/2008 4:43:18 PM PST by ozzymandus
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Yes, and I believed he received a band-aid for his service to our country!

What a scum this woman is!


11 posted on 12/04/2008 4:43:41 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Obozo.....friend of dictators and wannabee revoluuuushionaries !)
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Well Dubbie Nelson can kiss the Vietnam Veterans round ass!!! I did not commit war crimes. I shot back at an enemy trying to kill me. That is called self defense. It was war. Good thing this slut was not around in WWII when they did not worry about such things. War means killing. War means breaking things. Hey Dubbie, go talk to your beloved Soviets about their raping and murdering across Europe. I doubt they miss many nights sleep worrying about it. Stupid slut.
12 posted on 12/04/2008 4:44:21 PM PST by RetiredArmy (NOTE TO REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS: PLAY THE CONSERVATIVE CARD!!!)
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Nice post, taxcontrol.


13 posted on 12/04/2008 4:44:37 PM PST by Shady Ray
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Thanks..I needed that pic for this crap. Didn’t see it was you who posted that.


14 posted on 12/04/2008 4:45:58 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Obozo.....friend of dictators and wannabee revoluuuushionaries !)
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I heard a rumor that there is a military group that has done even worse stuff more recently than 1969. And the media is still covering for them!


15 posted on 12/04/2008 4:46:21 PM PST by TonyStark
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That's OK we all get that way here at times - Posting-N-Pinging before checking 8^).
16 posted on 12/04/2008 4:48:24 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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These atrocities may very well have occurred. So what. When the enemy runs a guerrilla war then these sorts of things are the inevitable results. Such is the cost.

It does not demean the service of those who fought there. Those that died, nor does it reduce the nobility of the purpose of that war...which was to stop the spread of communism.

Collateral damage is the responsibility of the aggressor. Which was not the USA or our fine soldiers who served.


17 posted on 12/04/2008 4:49:02 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Never underestimate the ability of a liberal to deny reality and attempt to change the rules to do s)
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Thank you ... Back from Cairo and down the mountains to Austin this week and the next two. Though I have never lived in Texas ... It always has a feeling of “home”.

The ONLY complaint I have is the (*&%^%&^$^%#^%$&*(*_) roads and highways!!!!! Trying to navigate the Tx-1 / 290 / I35 interchange with NeverLost is beyond the comprehension of mere mortals.

18 posted on 12/04/2008 4:50:15 PM PST by taxcontrol
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From the vets I’ve talked to, one never knew who the enemy was, since few of them wore an identifiable “uniform”. When civilian casualties occured, they were accidental, unintentional and many, many times the work of NVA or VC.


19 posted on 12/04/2008 4:51:24 PM PST by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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Isn't it amazing that the very existance of reports and investigations is used as both evidence of atrocities, and a cover up, since not every charge bore fruit. Nixon says keep us off the front page, everything is investigated, and that's worthy of condemnation.

My guess this book doesn't attract much attention, but I could be wrong. She should have done it on Iraq.

20 posted on 12/04/2008 4:52:03 PM PST by SJackson (http://www.jewish-history.com/emporium/)
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