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Political Scientist Says Electoral College Lacks What It Need To Elect Obama To White House
PR Web ^ | 12/11/08 | Dr. Mary Maxwell

Posted on 12/14/2008 9:57:46 AM PST by BP2

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To: gocats5

Republicans have a reputation of being sore losers, conspiracy nuts, right-wing fanatics, the list goes on.

From the poem IF

“If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too:
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise;”

SNIP

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings-—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much:
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And-—which is more-—you’ll be a Man, my son!

Rudyard Kipling


41 posted on 12/14/2008 10:37:39 AM PST by Kenny
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To: demsux
Check your Secretary of State's Web site.

SOS, Missouri - Elections: General Election Presidential Electors for the Missouri Republican Party

42 posted on 12/14/2008 10:40:05 AM PST by thecodont
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To: thecodont

thanks


43 posted on 12/14/2008 10:40:52 AM PST by demsux
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To: BP2

Obama’s ‘privacy’ defense is absurd.

Birth Certificates are sealed under privacy laws to prevent identity theft.

For a President-elect to prevent release of his vault copy long form birth certificate in order to avoid identity theft is ridiculously absurd.

There is nothing on a long form birth certificate that would render one prone to any abuse other than possible identity theft. And if there were anything remotely prone to abuse, it could be redacted on a copy with a cover letter of explanation from the Hawaii government.

So far there are officials of the State of Hawaii that have said the ‘Certificate of Live Birth’ is genuine. But what is not exposed by the press is there is a difference between a Certificate of Live Birth’ and a ‘Certification of Live Birth’. In the former case all that is required is for the parents to be citizens and claim they were residents of Hawaii within the last year even if their child was not born in Hawaii. In such a case the State of Hawaii will issue a ‘Certificate of Live Birth’. The background of this policy law is the nature of how Islanders were registered as residents of the USA when Hawaii became a territory.

The ‘Certification of Live Birth’ is however an official record that the child was born in the Hawaiian Islands.

What Obama released and what the State officials vouched for was a ‘Certificate of Live Birth’. This does not prove he was born in Hawaii. His half-sister has one of these and she is known to have not been born in Hawaii. Likewise Sun Yat-Sen was born in China but had a ‘Certificate of Live Birth’ from Hawaii.

Therefore, Obama needs to settle this and soon. It will cloud his Presidency from the start and I believe it will not go away.


44 posted on 12/14/2008 10:41:05 AM PST by Hostage
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To: tomnbeverly

You got it slightly wrong,,,,he is a CHICAGO democrat politician, the most crooked kind anywhere.


45 posted on 12/14/2008 10:43:40 AM PST by ajay_kumar (Sacrificial RINO's in 2012, Real Conservatives in 2016)
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To: Hostage; BP2

Post #17 is correct and my previous post is mistaken.

It is the ‘Certificate of Live Birth in Hawaii’ and not the ‘Certification of Live Birth’ that is the valid document for proof of birth in Hawaii.


46 posted on 12/14/2008 10:45:40 AM PST by Hostage
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To: OldEagle
You don't have to be a US citizen to register for the draft. I was on a waiting list for immigrant visa and had to register for the draft.
47 posted on 12/14/2008 10:45:47 AM PST by ajay_kumar (Sacrificial RINO's in 2012, Real Conservatives in 2016)
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To: BP2

Who’s in charge of the popcorn?


48 posted on 12/14/2008 10:46:10 AM PST by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: BP2

bump


49 posted on 12/14/2008 10:47:52 AM PST by manic4organic (We Are S0 Screwed)
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To: PistolPaknMama

I don’t know but I want the Beer Concession.


50 posted on 12/14/2008 10:48:26 AM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Hostage
Steve Pidgeon, lead attorney of Washington state's Broe v. Reed, has said that IF Obama’s BC are affidavits from grandmother and mom, converted into a “Certificate of Delayed Birth,” it will NOT be admissible as definitive proof or birth.

The stakes go WAY up in the discovery phase with Broe v. Reed, which may start next week.

51 posted on 12/14/2008 10:48:26 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Baynative

Up to a point.


52 posted on 12/14/2008 10:51:33 AM PST by null and void (Hey 0bama? There will be a pop quiz every day for the next four years...miss a question, people die.)
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To: Baynative

Obama is bullet proof.’

I’ll take that bet.


53 posted on 12/14/2008 10:51:58 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: gocats5
Never thought of Constitutional questions being part of “sore loser”.
54 posted on 12/14/2008 10:52:39 AM PST by svcw (Great selection of Christmas gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: Hostage

VERY good article about the Hawaiian birth certificate program:
http://art2sect1clause5.blogspot.com/2008/11/obamas-missing-link-hawaiian-birth_28.html

A very important point to note is that a “CertificATION of Live Birth” is an abbreviated version of the birth record on file with the Hawaiian Department of Health.

The root document(s), could be:
a) a true “Certificate of Live Birth”;
b) a “Late Birth Certificate” with or without modifications; or
c) a “Certificate of Hawaiian Birth.”

A “CertificATION of Live Birth” may reflect data that had been changed over time, and does not provide corroborated testimony such as dates, locations, change in paternal identification, and witnesses. Any record that amendments had been submitted and information changed is not shown on the “Certification of Live Birth,” which is laser printed on special green stock paper, and lacks detailed information that would be expected from a true “Certificate of Hawaiian Birth,” or “Certificate of Delayed Birth.”


55 posted on 12/14/2008 10:53:09 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: ajay_kumar
You don't have to be a US citizen to register for the draft. I was on a waiting list for immigrant visa and had to register for the draft.

In any event his alleged registration is on a form that wasn't even issued until a few years after he allegedly registered.

56 posted on 12/14/2008 10:54:38 AM PST by null and void (Hey 0bama? There will be a pop quiz every day for the next four years...miss a question, people die.)
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To: originalbuckeye

He can say and do anything he wants in the next four years and he will not be held accountable.”

Perhaps there are some who will not hold NObama accountable, but I am one who will hold him accountable for every breath he takes and every word out of his mouth.


57 posted on 12/14/2008 10:55:52 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Hostage

Obama’s ‘privacy’ defense is absurd.

Totally agree. Imagine you were to walk in to a hospital and apply for a job as a neurosurgeon. They ask to see your Med school transcripts and you say “Well, thats a privacy issue...”

It’s absurd on it’s face!

The presidency has three, and only three simple requirements:
Must be 35 and
Must be a natural born citizen
Must be a resident for 14 years

That’s it! That’s all!

Prove it, sucka!!

And I would like to make another point:
As president, he does not work “only for the Supreme Court”.
He does not work “only for Congress” or “Only for the democrats”.

He works for the American people.

And it will be TOTALLY ACCEPTABLE and WITHIN BOUNDS for any (and all) Americans to not recognize him as president until he has supplied the proof of the requirements.


58 posted on 12/14/2008 10:57:48 AM PST by djf (...heard about a couple livin in the USA, he said they traded in their baby for a Chevrolet...)
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To: gocats5
Conservatives are beginning to get a reputation of being sore losers. Could this sore loser reputation be a problem for us in the future?

On the whole, that would be a misjudgment on the part of whoever is getting that impression, and we can't let other people's misperceptions determine what we do. Full steam ahead with every legitimate issue!

59 posted on 12/14/2008 11:01:16 AM PST by Mmmike
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To: null and void

You don’t have to be a US citizen to register for the draft. I was on a waiting list for immigrant visa and had to register for the draft.
In any event his alleged registration is on a form that wasn’t even issued until a few years after he allegedly registered.”””

What bothers me the most, I think, is that NObama thinks he can continue stonewalling and he thinks we are all too stupid to realize he is lying.

This is going to end very badly, IMO.


60 posted on 12/14/2008 11:01:59 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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