Posted on 12/14/2008 9:57:46 AM PST by BP2
Marblehead, Mass. (PRWEB) December 11, 2008 -- Dr. Mary Maxwell, political scientist, said today: "Obama's silence about his citizenship is indefensible and unworkable. Next Monday, the 538 members of the Electoral college meet and they are at risk, themselves, of violating state election laws if they participate in a fraud."
"If a presidential candidate's claim that he meets the requirements are later found to be false," Maxwell said,"one or more of the 50 states could bring charges against him. But that would be a terrible thing if it comes after Inauguration Day. It would be better if a state would apply its law stringently as early as possible For example, the Election Commission of Alabama has authority to cite for contempt (http://law.justia.com/alabama/codes/16474/17-15-57.html) any person who refuses to deliver, upon subpoena, relevant items."
Maxwell said: "An Obama spokesman has called the eligibility controversy 'garbage,' and wants to keep pertinent records under seal." "Privacy is of great value," Maxwell acknowledged, "but when one signs the form to become a candidate for elective office, one swears, in most states, that one is eligible."
"For a presidential hopeful that means he has attained age 35, has resided here for 14 years,and is a natural-born citizen of the U.S." Maxwell stated, "If voters want proof of a candidate's eligibility -- and thousands have signed petitions and called Congress (http://rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/stop-obama-constitutional-crisis/) seeking Obama's proof -- it follows that privacy must be sacrificed. How can Electors do their solemn duty of choosing America's executive for the next four years if they are in doubt about his qualification?" she asked.
"I've posted a current case, Keyes v Bowen, at my website (http://www.marymaxwell.us)," said Maxwell. "The plaintiffs are Electors who don't want to vote until they see Obama's documents," she said, "This case is making its way to the Supreme Court, but not in time for Dec.15th." Also, she reported,"there are some are military officers who understandably insist that their Commander in Chief be free of any suspicion of divided loyalties."
"This lays a shockingly heavy burden on Electors' shoulders," Maxwell said. "I believe that Obama's grammar school records, showing his citizenship as 'Indonesian,' are sufficient indication that he has an eligibility problem. So the presumption has to be against him. If Obama feels that is unfair he can simply submit the documents and put an end to the problem, " she said.
"Granted this approach is embarrassing," said Maxwell, "but so what? Don't Immigration officers frequently knock on doors of American residents and say 'Show your passport'?" She observed, "The Constitution protects all congresspersons from arrest on their way to or from their legislative sessions, but no one is immune from the law at other times. That is the core of our great system."
"If we create a cultural habit of exonerating government officials when they do wrong, or look the other way, it will soon be said that rule-of-law no longer works in our society and we need martial law," said Maxwell, "in fact I sniff it in the air now. What nonsense! We have a perfectly workable Constitution. But of course it can't work if the law does not apply to all."
"Failure to deal with Obama's issue is likely to cause an upset on Dec. 15th," said Maxwell. "Since Nov. 4th, the public has been told that the Electors will cast 373 ballots for Obama, and 165 for McCain. Typically, all Electors 'obey' their party but the Constitution does not require them to do so," she noted, "and in a 1992 case, Ray v Blair (http://vlex.com/vid/20012409), the Court ruled that political parties may give direction but they did not say the Elector is thus coerced."
"It is amazing to realize that if Obama drops out, the Electors are not obliged to choose his running mate, Joe Biden, or the next-best from the Democrat's summer convention, Hillary Clinton," Maxwell said. They can even choose someone that ran in a third party, such as Bob Barr or Cynthia McKinney." She remarked, "Indeed they are free to elect a citizen who never campaigned."
"Happily, panic need not occur if no individual gets a majority on Dec. 15th," Maxwell stated. "As usual, the Founding Fathers foresaw that outcome, and arranged for the House of Representatives to choose the president from the three highest on the Elector's list," she said. "and they would vote as states, with each state having one vote. The National Archives website (http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/faq.html#270) says that would occur on Jan. 8th, 2009."
Republicans have a reputation of being sore losers, conspiracy nuts, right-wing fanatics, the list goes on.
From the poem IF
“If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too:
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise;”
SNIP
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings-—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much:
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And-—which is more-—you’ll be a Man, my son!
Rudyard Kipling
SOS, Missouri - Elections: General Election Presidential Electors for the Missouri Republican Party
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Obama’s ‘privacy’ defense is absurd.
Birth Certificates are sealed under privacy laws to prevent identity theft.
For a President-elect to prevent release of his vault copy long form birth certificate in order to avoid identity theft is ridiculously absurd.
There is nothing on a long form birth certificate that would render one prone to any abuse other than possible identity theft. And if there were anything remotely prone to abuse, it could be redacted on a copy with a cover letter of explanation from the Hawaii government.
So far there are officials of the State of Hawaii that have said the ‘Certificate of Live Birth’ is genuine. But what is not exposed by the press is there is a difference between a Certificate of Live Birth’ and a ‘Certification of Live Birth’. In the former case all that is required is for the parents to be citizens and claim they were residents of Hawaii within the last year even if their child was not born in Hawaii. In such a case the State of Hawaii will issue a ‘Certificate of Live Birth’. The background of this policy law is the nature of how Islanders were registered as residents of the USA when Hawaii became a territory.
The ‘Certification of Live Birth’ is however an official record that the child was born in the Hawaiian Islands.
What Obama released and what the State officials vouched for was a ‘Certificate of Live Birth’. This does not prove he was born in Hawaii. His half-sister has one of these and she is known to have not been born in Hawaii. Likewise Sun Yat-Sen was born in China but had a ‘Certificate of Live Birth’ from Hawaii.
Therefore, Obama needs to settle this and soon. It will cloud his Presidency from the start and I believe it will not go away.
You got it slightly wrong,,,,he is a CHICAGO democrat politician, the most crooked kind anywhere.
Post #17 is correct and my previous post is mistaken.
It is the ‘Certificate of Live Birth in Hawaii’ and not the ‘Certification of Live Birth’ that is the valid document for proof of birth in Hawaii.
Who’s in charge of the popcorn?
bump
I don’t know but I want the Beer Concession.
The stakes go WAY up in the discovery phase with Broe v. Reed, which may start next week.
Up to a point.
Obama is bullet proof.’
I’ll take that bet.
VERY good article about the Hawaiian birth certificate program:
http://art2sect1clause5.blogspot.com/2008/11/obamas-missing-link-hawaiian-birth_28.html
A very important point to note is that a “CertificATION of Live Birth” is an abbreviated version of the birth record on file with the Hawaiian Department of Health.
The root document(s), could be:
a) a true “Certificate of Live Birth”;
b) a “Late Birth Certificate” with or without modifications; or
c) a “Certificate of Hawaiian Birth.”
A “CertificATION of Live Birth” may reflect data that had been changed over time, and does not provide corroborated testimony such as dates, locations, change in paternal identification, and witnesses. Any record that amendments had been submitted and information changed is not shown on the “Certification of Live Birth,” which is laser printed on special green stock paper, and lacks detailed information that would be expected from a true “Certificate of Hawaiian Birth,” or “Certificate of Delayed Birth.”
In any event his alleged registration is on a form that wasn't even issued until a few years after he allegedly registered.
He can say and do anything he wants in the next four years and he will not be held accountable.”
Perhaps there are some who will not hold NObama accountable, but I am one who will hold him accountable for every breath he takes and every word out of his mouth.
Obama’s ‘privacy’ defense is absurd.
Totally agree. Imagine you were to walk in to a hospital and apply for a job as a neurosurgeon. They ask to see your Med school transcripts and you say “Well, thats a privacy issue...”
It’s absurd on it’s face!
The presidency has three, and only three simple requirements:
Must be 35 and
Must be a natural born citizen
Must be a resident for 14 years
That’s it! That’s all!
Prove it, sucka!!
And I would like to make another point:
As president, he does not work “only for the Supreme Court”.
He does not work “only for Congress” or “Only for the democrats”.
He works for the American people.
And it will be TOTALLY ACCEPTABLE and WITHIN BOUNDS for any (and all) Americans to not recognize him as president until he has supplied the proof of the requirements.
On the whole, that would be a misjudgment on the part of whoever is getting that impression, and we can't let other people's misperceptions determine what we do. Full steam ahead with every legitimate issue!
You don’t have to be a US citizen to register for the draft. I was on a waiting list for immigrant visa and had to register for the draft.
In any event his alleged registration is on a form that wasn’t even issued until a few years after he allegedly registered.”””
What bothers me the most, I think, is that NObama thinks he can continue stonewalling and he thinks we are all too stupid to realize he is lying.
This is going to end very badly, IMO.
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