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Cort Wrotnowski's stay request denied by SCOTUS
Supreme Court ^ | 12/15/2008

Posted on 12/15/2008 7:29:47 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan

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To: Frantzie
Digusting. I guess SCOTUS prefers tyranny.

Fear is more like it. The SCOTUS is surrounded by a radical black community that they fear would break out in massive riots if they were to actually follow the Constitution in this situation.

61 posted on 12/15/2008 8:28:23 AM PST by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: BP2

I concur.

1. O’s qualification can, legally, only be viably challenged AFTER the Electoral College vote (today) AND Congress certifies the winner. Prior to the EC vote, O’s candidacy is not formally recognized at a federal level, and it is only a state issue, and federally only an Elector could bring a case questioning his candidacy. Prior to Congress certifiying the winner, only a Congressman could bring a case questioning the would-be winner’s candidacy. SCOTUS must tread lightly.

2. “Natural born citizen” is actually not well defined legally. Many would reasonably contend “born here, full POTUS-qualified citizen”. Restricting it to “born here of parents BOTH US citizens” is hard to argue and require. O’s alleged dual-citizenship would be an easier target.

3. A legal document stating the state of HI vouches for his natural-born citizenship is sufficient. While there is room for discussion, a case would have to be very precise to viably question this “voucher” document and demand the original BC. If the case is inadequate in any way, SCOTUS won’t touch it.

4. O isn’t POTUS until January 20. Congress can’t be accused of certifying a disqualified candidate until January 8.

Upshot: while there is tremendous circumstantial evidence worthy of Supreme Court consideration, and possible disqualification of O, it is such a weighty issue with massive consequences that any viable case challenging O’s qualification must be JUST RIGHT before SCOTUS will run with it - and obviouly what they’ve seen so far isn’t good enough. The fact that SCOTUS _is_ entertaining _any_ cases is a good sign.


62 posted on 12/15/2008 8:34:09 AM PST by ctdonath2 (I AM JOE THE PLUMBER!)
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To: Frantzie
The Constitution goes up in smoke but you decide to engage in a childish “I told you so.” Pathetic.

You've accused everyone on this forum who wouldn't embrace this farcical Truther nonsense of being an "Obamabot" and now you're expecting compassion when the USSC unsurprisingly and very much deservingly chucks these garbage cases out?

63 posted on 12/15/2008 8:35:40 AM PST by Drew68
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To: davek70

Soro’s son has an op-ed in today’s Wall Street Journal on getting rid of the electoral college. NJ, MD, IL and HI have already done it. O was Soros Plan A and McCain was Plan B.


64 posted on 12/15/2008 8:36:26 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: ctdonath2
From STARWISE thread.

Is the Judicial Review Allowed Only After the Electoral College Vote?

65 posted on 12/15/2008 8:39:35 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

To which I retort :)

http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a524.htm

Gail Lightfoot, et al., Applicants

v.

Debra Bowen, California Secretary of State

Dec 12 2008 Application (08A524) for a stay pending the filing and disposition of a petition for a writ of certiorari, submitted to Justice Kennedy.


66 posted on 12/15/2008 8:39:55 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: hoosiermama

Obama is a virgin in a Chicago Whorehouse....I love it! Great line.


67 posted on 12/15/2008 8:43:03 AM PST by pepperdog (The world has gone crazy.)
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To: pepperdog

Variation of it have been floating around FR for the last two day.....Post it early and often in the Chicago style


68 posted on 12/15/2008 8:45:16 AM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I’m curious why all of the topics were removed from this post. It would seem that no matter what one’s opinion is of the issue that a Supreme Court decision is worthy of discussion and that the post deserves a topic.


69 posted on 12/15/2008 8:46:27 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan
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To: null and void

Just so you know that I was actually thinking “should I page Nully” when I wrote it. It’s the thought that counts in the new Amerika.


70 posted on 12/15/2008 8:47:41 AM PST by ichabod1 (Reagan wouldÂ’ve fired them.)
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To: hoosiermama

As Rush puts it, the new messiah walks on a cesspool.


71 posted on 12/15/2008 8:49:50 AM PST by ichabod1 (Reagan wouldÂ’ve fired them.)
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To: ctdonath2
There are some people who take great pleasure & satisfaction in telling others they can't succeed, and gloating when they fail.

No. It's like this. I believe that these BC Truthers are no friends to conservatism and the sooner they are sidelined and marginalized, the better for the rest of us to challenge Obama on issues that actually have merit and might resonate with real people.

72 posted on 12/15/2008 8:50:35 AM PST by Drew68
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To: stockpirate

I’m kind of serial. If the constitution does not apply, then we are not bound to it either. They will try to control us by guilting us into following it while they have no such restrictions. We can make a new constitution when we remake the country (or part of it) into the second American Republic. Or we can just crown Bx0 king, whichever.


73 posted on 12/15/2008 8:52:11 AM PST by ichabod1 (Reagan wouldÂ’ve fired them.)
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To: fella

“The SCOTUS is surrounded by a radical black community that they fear would break out in massive riots..”

If they would open up this case for trial, Obama would be so discredited that his base would turn on him. Their mindset is based on ‘give me programs’ so deflating OBuma would destroy their confidence in his capacity to deliver. Most would be running to the next politician that they believe can deliver freebies.


74 posted on 12/15/2008 8:53:15 AM PST by Blu By U
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To: MountainWoman
the only reason i voted for McCain was because of Sarah Palin. if he would have been elected..."

That sob never had any intention of getting elected.

75 posted on 12/15/2008 8:54:14 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: BP2

ping!!!


76 posted on 12/15/2008 8:55:33 AM PST by j_guru
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To: ichabod1

I appreciate that!

And oh yes, good intentions are all that counts these days...


77 posted on 12/15/2008 8:55:46 AM PST by null and void (Hey 0bama? There will be a pop quiz every day for the next four years...miss a question, people die.)
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To: Drew68
I believe that these BC Truthers are no friends to conservatism and the sooner they are sidelined and marginalized, the better for the rest of us to challenge Obama on issues that actually have merit and might resonate with real people.

The efforts are not mutually exclusive. Wishing failure on fellow citizens is not an honorable goal.

78 posted on 12/15/2008 9:04:47 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Drew68

FR must disagree since this subject was added under 2 different listings in popular keywords. If Jim Rob disagreed, they’d be gone.


79 posted on 12/15/2008 9:06:53 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

That judge confirms what I’m concluding: no SCOTUS review until the EC votes are counted by the current VP.

SCOTUS _can’t_ review until then: there is no official federal notice of the candidate before the President Of The Senate unseals the EC votes and counts them.


80 posted on 12/15/2008 9:08:31 AM PST by ctdonath2 (I AM JOE THE PLUMBER!)
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