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Can Barack Obama quit smoking?
timesonline.co.uk ^ | 12/20/08 | Vivienne Parry

Posted on 12/19/2008 9:48:13 PM PST by melt

It's important to understand that stopping is not simply about willpower or determination (qualities that Obama personifies). Smoking is an addictive behaviour and to quit you need to overcome the addiction and learn new behaviour. On the addiction front, Obama uses Nicorette gum. He even handed some out to someone in the crowd who said they were trying to quit. But many quitters use it only when they have a craving. That isn't going to work. You need to chew the gum of the right strength as directed, using up to 15 pieces a day. There are dozens of randomised controlled trials showing that if nicotine replacement is used properly, you double your chances of quitting successfully.

Obama also seems to have got it right when he says “you need to eliminate connections”. In other words, if you always smoke after a meal, while on the phone or with a cup of coffee, you need to find something to distract yourself at these times. Exercise - Obama spends an hour a day in the gym - helps, as does the support of those around you. Hopefully, the non-smoking Michelle Obama will be firm but fair. He will just have to make sure that he doesn't hang out too much with secret-service men who smoke.

Whether Obama's efforts are successful or not may ultimately depend on his motivation for giving up. If he is just quitting to save himself from embarrassing photos having a crafty one behind the White House bike shed, he might not succeed. He needs to really want to give up: for financial reasons (unlikely), for the sake of those around him, or for his health.

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1 posted on 12/19/2008 9:48:13 PM PST by melt
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To: melt
willpower or determination (qualities that Obama personifies).

Barf Alert

2 posted on 12/19/2008 9:50:11 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Atheist Pro-Lifer)
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To: melt

Hell quit? He can’t even tell the truth about his smoking.


3 posted on 12/19/2008 9:50:41 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: melt
NRT is treating nicotine addiction with nicotine. Doesn't sound like the best plan, because it isn't.

Those who quit smoking without de-brainwashing themselves first spend years pining for a cigarette. It's better to accept that the cigarette never did anything you convinced yourself it was doing. Once you accept that truth, you put the things down and move on with your life. And you don't envy those who still have to light 20 cigarettes every day.

I defended the habit for years on this very site. What a waste of my time. I still have a strong dislike for anti-tobacco zealots, however.
5 posted on 12/19/2008 9:54:31 PM PST by mysterio
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To: Darkwolf377

What the hell is wrong with people. They don’t even know who Obama is and yet they seem to worship him for reasons I will never understand. What next?


6 posted on 12/19/2008 9:55:16 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Red Steel

True. Who dreams up these dopey “news” stories? Who cares if he smokes? There are more important concerns.


7 posted on 12/19/2008 9:55:57 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: melt
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Nobody except radical left wing social engineering leftist care if he smokes or not. It would ruin their years of demonization of smokers in order to coerce them to quit.

How about policy issues? Does anybody here give a crap if Obama lights up in the White House? Tell me.

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8 posted on 12/19/2008 9:57:24 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: melt
It's important to understand that stopping is not simply about willpower or determination....

Huh? Willpower and determination is all that is required to quit. Only takes a lot of willpower for the first 3 days, after that it just takes a little determination. The withdrawal period is only bad for the first two or three days.

9 posted on 12/19/2008 9:57:51 PM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: melt

I wonder if this article isn’t designed to make the sheeple think it’s a cigarette he’s holding in that “Time” photo, rather than a joint.

As for me, if a guy is President, let him smoke all he wants. Most of the Presidents up until the insanely paranoid hippie class took over enjoyed puffing tobacco.


10 posted on 12/19/2008 9:58:01 PM PST by JennysCool (Internet Powerhouse)
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To: dannyprimrose1
"That is a joker rolled marijuana joint."

Please explain. I don't know what that means.

11 posted on 12/19/2008 9:59:18 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Cobra64

FDR and Churchill both smoked and drank copious ammounts of alcohol while in office and no one cared.


12 posted on 12/19/2008 9:59:48 PM PST by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: mysterio

Nicotine is an excellent tranquilizer.


13 posted on 12/19/2008 10:00:37 PM PST by melt (Someday they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: dannyprimrose1

That ain’t no “joker” joint ...


14 posted on 12/19/2008 10:00:51 PM PST by JennysCool (Internet Powerhouse)
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To: melt
Nicotine is an excellent tranquilizer.

Exactly. Check the upsurge in the incidence of workplace violence when cigs were declared off-limits. It's astonishing.

17 posted on 12/19/2008 10:03:02 PM PST by JennysCool (Internet Powerhouse)
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To: melt
Can Barack Obama quit smoking?

Better yet, can he quit being a pre-packaged pretender?

I don't care if he smokes.

18 posted on 12/19/2008 10:03:47 PM PST by smoothsailing (h)
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To: TruthWillWin
Only takes a lot of willpower for the first 3 days

Being loaded up with morphine for three days helped me.

19 posted on 12/19/2008 10:04:07 PM PST by Graybeard58
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To: melt

Just stop! It’s a matter of balls, either you got them, or you don’t!
No excuses, all you are doing is lying, to yourself.


20 posted on 12/19/2008 10:05:27 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Cobra64
"True. Who dreams up these dopey “news” stories? Who cares if he smokes? There are more important concerns."

The point, for me at least, is this. He will dictate what behavior is proper for you and me while ignoring it for himself. Frankly I don't care if he smokes himself to death. That's his choice.

21 posted on 12/19/2008 10:05:49 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: smoothsailing
I don't care if he smokes.

No real American does. That weirdly paranoid -- yet very influential -- sect of super-thin liberal women and the men who love them -- or else! -- are the ones who have made huffing a Marlboro somehow a capital offense.

22 posted on 12/19/2008 10:08:12 PM PST by JennysCool (Internet Powerhouse)
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To: dannyprimrose1
"Joker paper. Its a brand name of cigarette rolling papers you can buy to make homemade cigarettes(more likely joints). You can find it in convienent stores, cigar shops."

I won't ask how you know that. But thanks for the info.

23 posted on 12/19/2008 10:08:12 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: melt

They say there’s no smoking in the White House, yet Laura Bush smokes. Does she have to go outside to light up?


24 posted on 12/19/2008 10:09:11 PM PST by FFranco
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To: Red Steel

FITFLOL that is post of the day


25 posted on 12/19/2008 10:10:11 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (mama baby bama drama to be continued...)
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To: dannyprimrose1
"I prefer a good cigar and a good beer."

Same here.

27 posted on 12/19/2008 10:12:12 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: FFranco
The Presidential Residence section of the White House is not considered federal office space and smoking is allowed.

On another note, I have worked at the Harry S Truman Building - The State Department, which is visited by dignitaries from all over the world. There are plenty of offices upstairs where smoking is still tolerated (Noticed I did not say allowed) because it is done in the visitor's home country.

28 posted on 12/19/2008 10:17:04 PM PST by IrishPennant (Patriotism is strongest when accompanied by bad politics, loyal FRiends and great whiskey)
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To: dannyprimrose1

It’s often characterized as tinfoil helmet stuff, but there is no doubt in my mind at all that the “Surgeon General’s Report” in 1964 was the beginning of a major social experiment — with LOTS of grant money, kinda like “Global Warming.” If the Central Government could impact an addictive behavior practiced by most adult Americans through sheer propaganda (Public Service Announcements) and, eventually, legislation, then the Central Government could do ANYTHING.

It appears to have worked.


29 posted on 12/19/2008 10:18:25 PM PST by JennysCool (Internet Powerhouse)
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To: TruthWillWin; All

My husband quit a 3 pack a day habit when he had 50 pages of term papers to write in a week doing research in a library that did not allow smoking. After two days he had written 5 pages and was going outside for a smoke every 20 minutes, so he quit. After the first day as the little hair cells inside began to revive, he felt like he wanted to scratch the inside of his lungs all the time. After 4 days the little cells started sweaping nasty black gunk out of his lungs and he was astonished. After the first week, the craving was not so strong but he was coughing and spitting up black nasties several times a day. After two weeks the cravings and lung clearing subsided. Six months later he had a big coughing fit, and large chunks of black for deep in his lungs came up. He never smoked again for the 45 years before he died. On the other hand, 3 years later he began his drinking toward 20 years of alcoholism. The addictive personality will out.

My father had a one pack a day habit. He quit at age 87 and died at 90 of a stroke. His father who never smoked lived to be 98. I read somewhere that you loose 11 minutes of life for every cigarette you smoke. If you smoke, do the math, it might convince you to stop. Good luck all.


30 posted on 12/19/2008 10:20:15 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: JennysCool
That weirdly paranoid -- yet very influential -- sect of super-thin liberal women and the men who love them -- or else! -- are the ones who have made huffing a Marlboro somehow a capital offense.

Yikes! Thank God I married a Conservative Woman.

31 posted on 12/19/2008 10:21:27 PM PST by smoothsailing (h)
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To: melt

I’m 25 years old and I smoke between the ages of 16 and 24 and thank God I don’t smoke anymore now.

It’s very difficult to quit smoking but it’s possible.


32 posted on 12/19/2008 10:21:57 PM PST by syl799
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To: melt

He ain’t giving up those doobies either.


33 posted on 12/19/2008 10:22:17 PM PST by Diggity
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To: melt

Its only a tranquilizer to those who are addicted and need a smoke bad.


34 posted on 12/19/2008 10:25:33 PM PST by Diggity
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To: dannyprimrose1
Oh, I hear ya.

Luckily, I live in Nevada. We're decades behind the prohibitionist curve. And we like being "backward."

36 posted on 12/19/2008 10:29:07 PM PST by JennysCool (Internet Powerhouse)
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To: Darkwolf377

This guy has never demoonstrated any character — where does all this hype come from?


37 posted on 12/19/2008 10:29:44 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Diggity

I’d like to wrap you up in some paper and smoke you. I’m addicted to beating people like you up and down the sidewalk for amusement.

Where’s the patch for that?


38 posted on 12/19/2008 10:29:51 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: TruthWillWin

you’re correct — it is habit and can be stopped if you really want to quit.

That is the bottom line - you have to want to quit!!
And if his little girls are not motive enough, shame on him.

I think the patch or whatever only hurts the effort to quit, you have to get the nicotine out of your body - and 3 days does it!


39 posted on 12/19/2008 10:30:52 PM PST by malia
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To: melt
“It's important to understand that stopping is not simply about willpower or determination (qualities that Obama personifies).”

Say what?

Before “smoking cessation treatments” became part of every corporate health insurance plan, virtually 100% of ex-smokers used willpower and determination.

How did that work out?

Well, in 1995 America had more ex-smokers than smokers!

40 posted on 12/19/2008 10:32:56 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: melt

Let him keep smoking. It is about the only human aspect about him.

Who knows, maybe his lordship will stand up for smokers............ Nah, the smoke-nazi’s would castrate him.


42 posted on 12/19/2008 10:34:16 PM PST by DakotaRed (Don't you wish you had supported a conservative when you had the chance?)
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To: FFranco

They say there’s no smoking in the White House, yet Laura Bush smokes. Does she have to go outside to light up?
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I asked my husband about the WH and the federal no smoking policy inside buildings. He said (he’s retired military & now civil service) since the president can make whatever policy he wants, Obama can smoke inside the WH.

I’m assuming that’s what the deal is with Laura Bush, although I had no idea she smoked.


43 posted on 12/19/2008 10:34:21 PM PST by leapfrog0202
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To: LukeL

I always wondered why FDR fell apart and died at the tender age of sixty-three.


45 posted on 12/19/2008 10:35:52 PM PST by sinanju
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To: zeestephen

We were also a lot thinner.


46 posted on 12/19/2008 10:36:45 PM PST by sinanju
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To: sinanju

I remember reading that his blood pressure was 180/100 and according to US News it was 226/118 on D-Day.


47 posted on 12/19/2008 10:39:03 PM PST by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: melt

I don’t care if people smoke. That being said, Obama is a horrible, sneaky, weak willed, twit who must stop this awful habit. Everyone else, carry on.


48 posted on 12/19/2008 10:39:36 PM PST by Jeff Gordon ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last." Churchill)
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To: gleeaikin

Bill Wilson (founder of AA) famously quit drinking after many attempts but he was never able to quit smoking (or philandering). However, I have met others in the rooms who were able to do all three.


49 posted on 12/19/2008 10:39:54 PM PST by sinanju
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To: dannyprimrose1
They do it right down there. I'm up north, where it's even more free.

The Californians still pour over the border to escape California, and then turn around and try to make us like the place they just left, but we're fighting them.

50 posted on 12/19/2008 10:42:36 PM PST by JennysCool (Internet Powerhouse)
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