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How real are you?
Royal Institute of Philosophy ^ | Mary Midgley

Posted on 12/26/2008 5:36:50 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode

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To: tom paine 2
If we are no more than a collection of atoms connected by a nervous system, then Mr. Dawkins writings are no more valid than a billion monkeys typing on typewriters.

Charles Darwin wrote of a similar argument, with the difference that he succumbed to it. He said that, since our minds evolved from those of monkeys, and the sensibilities of monkeys are not particularly impressive, there was no way he could trust his mind when it forms thoughts about the meaning of life and so on. "The horrid doubt always arises whether the convictions of man's mind, which has developed from the mind of the lower animals, are of any value or at all trustworthy. Would anyone trust the conviction of a monkey's mind, if there are any convictions in such a mind?" If so, why then should we trust him regarding his convictions about man's mind developing from monkeys?

41 posted on 12/26/2008 8:06:29 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Very good.

I have also enjoyed this reading of Orthodoxy:

http://librivox.org/orthodoxy-by-gk-chesterton/


42 posted on 12/26/2008 8:09:46 AM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

The time has come, the Walrus said...

43 posted on 12/26/2008 8:43:30 AM PST by BlueDragon (I weep for them, I deeply sympathize.Pass the melted butter & the redwine vinager, wouldya?)
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To: vladimir998
"Can reality have degrees?"

Who pays the salaries of these useless flakes?

44 posted on 12/26/2008 8:43:34 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Titan Magroyne

Solipsism/Sophism Ping


45 posted on 12/26/2008 9:01:18 AM PST by Drumbo ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats." - Jubal Harshaw (Robert A. Heinlein))
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

“Are you quite real? Are you (that is) at least as real as the parts that you are composed of - your cells, your genes, your molecules and electrons and quarks and the notions that are passing through your mind? Or are they more real than you?”

I don’t know about all this, but I do know that when I stub my toe, that toe is the most real part of me. Or when I have a headache, my brow is more real than any other part of me.


46 posted on 12/26/2008 9:15:19 AM PST by rwa265 (Christ, My Cornerstone)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

I’m real, touch me...


47 posted on 12/26/2008 9:19:45 AM PST by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: Allegra; Salamander

You drink, therefore you are.

I eat, therefore I fart.


48 posted on 12/26/2008 9:42:55 AM PST by shibumi (...so if it's organic, where are its organs?)
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To: Old Sarge; Allegra; Salamander
"Veni, Vidi, Vino.

“I came, I saw, I drank.”


"Veni, Vidi Vicki"

"I Came, I Saw, I'm like OMIGAWD!"
49 posted on 12/26/2008 9:47:36 AM PST by shibumi (...so if it's organic, where are its organs?)
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To: Salamander

And a “fear in a handful of dust” ping back atcha’!


50 posted on 12/26/2008 9:49:19 AM PST by shibumi (...so if it's organic, where are its organs?)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

It sounds like the person to whom you are referring could be a sub-atomic physicist!


51 posted on 12/26/2008 9:55:22 AM PST by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: shibumi; Slings and Arrows

It only seems right to ping Slings And Arrows to this, ya know.


52 posted on 12/26/2008 1:29:10 PM PST by Salamander ( Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: Brilliant

My mind is watching my mind watching my mind watching itself watch my mind watching myself. After five minutes of that, I prefer Professor Jack Daniels.


53 posted on 12/26/2008 1:39:55 PM PST by ZeitgeistSurfer (In which direction do I bow down to praise the One?)
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To: Drumbo
I know you are, but what am I? ;o)
54 posted on 12/26/2008 2:11:28 PM PST by Titan Magroyne ("Drill now drill hard drill often and give old Gaia a cigarette afterwards she deserves it." HerrBlu)
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To: Salamander; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; martin_fierro; ...
Thanks for the ping!

I used to be real, but then some @#$! multiplied me by the square root of minus-one.


55 posted on 12/26/2008 3:43:49 PM PST by Slings and Arrows ("Every few generations the really, really bad ideas come back around for another go."--Howard Tayler)
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To: Slings and Arrows
Reality is merely an illusion, although a very persistent one


56 posted on 12/26/2008 4:02:15 PM PST by Lady Jag (DONATE NOW at https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate)
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57 posted on 12/26/2008 4:09:15 PM PST by Lady Jag (DONATE NOW at https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate)
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To: Lady Jag

A fat guy with a chicken on his head: For when a bunny and a pancake just won’t cut it.


58 posted on 12/26/2008 4:13:52 PM PST by Slings and Arrows ("Every few generations the really, really bad ideas come back around for another go."--Howard Tayler)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Hammer + thumb x acceleration to the target=reality.


59 posted on 12/26/2008 4:29:34 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Dawkins is a fountain of dumb.


60 posted on 12/26/2008 4:44:55 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (I want a hippopotamus for Christmas. Only a hippopotamus will do!)
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