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Fake money isn’t what it used to be[Today’s sad-sack counterfeiters]
The Kansas City Star ^ | 25 Dec 2008 | JOE LAMBE

Posted on 01/06/2009 9:56:25 AM PST by BGHater

The Secret Service agent in Kansas City peered hard at a counterfeit $100 bill, ran a finger over it and grimaced in disgust.

It was bad, ugly work.

“Too slick, too,” said Charles Green, special agent in charge.

More counterfeiters are using today’s ink-jet printers, computers and copiers to make money that’s just good enough to pass, he said, even though their product is awful.

In the past, he said, the best American counterfeiters were skilled printers who used heavy offset presses to turn out decent 20s, 50s and 100s. Now that kind of work is rare and almost all comes from abroad.

Among American thieves, the 22-year veteran said sadly, “it’s a lost art.”

But as art fades, greed goes on. Ink-jet counterfeiting is thriving.

Part of the problem, Green said, is that the government has changed the money so much to foil counterfeiting. With all the new bills out there, citizens and even many police officers don’t know what they’re supposed to look like.

Moreover, many people see paper money less because they use credit or debit cards.

The result: Ink-jet counterfeiting accounted for 60 percent of $103 million in fake money removed from circulation from October 2007 to August 2008, the Secret Service reports. In 1995, the figure was less than 1 percent.

No other kind hits the Kansas City area, Green said, except a rare “floater” fake that comes in from New York or some other coastal metropolis.

Counterfeiting is a constant problem that gets worse during a slow economy. The 15 Secret Service agents in Kansas City collect an average of $300,000 in fake bills in the metro area each year, he said.

But Green shook his head. Some fake bills nowadays are for $5 and $10 — even $1.

“It’s crazy.”

An era passes

(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: counterfeiting; money; secretservice
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Sad. We can't domestically produce quality fake money. We have to import fake money now.
1 posted on 01/06/2009 9:56:26 AM PST by BGHater
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To: BGHater
Some fake bills nowadays are for $5 and $10 — even $1

OK... $1 fake bills? Somewhere there is a village missing an idiot...

2 posted on 01/06/2009 9:59:21 AM PST by John123 (The US may be going down the drain, but everyone else will drown first...)
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To: BGHater

We should have these “fine folks” keep printing money so we can bail ourselves out.....


3 posted on 01/06/2009 10:00:08 AM PST by Cyclone59
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To: BGHater

US needs to get with the times and start using polymer currency. Check out Australia currency


4 posted on 01/06/2009 10:00:27 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: John123
OK... $1 fake bills? Somewhere there is a village missing an idiot...

Are they trying to fool people, or just running a few on a color copier to fool a vending machine?

5 posted on 01/06/2009 10:03:04 AM PST by KarlInOhio (On 9/11 Israel mourned with us while the Palestinians danced in the streets. Who should we support?)
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To: BGHater

They’re just following the Fed’s lead, printing fiat money. Not that I’m in favor of counterfeiting, but they’re doing just what the Fed is doing. Only differences is that 1) they’re not “government” and 2) their quality sucks.


6 posted on 01/06/2009 10:04:28 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: BGHater

Ben’s printing enough fake money for everyone. And he can do it more cheaply than the counterfeiters. It’s simple competition.


7 posted on 01/06/2009 10:08:04 AM PST by mysterio
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To: John123
OK... $1 fake bills? Somewhere there is a village missing an idiot...

Probably printed for investing in the lottery.

8 posted on 01/06/2009 10:09:13 AM PST by krb (Obama is a miserable failure.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Many businesses check larger bills, even 20’s. They don’t have time to test every $1 bill.


9 posted on 01/06/2009 10:09:26 AM PST by gieriscm (07 FFL / 02 SOT - www.extremefirepower.com)
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To: BGHater

A few days ago, I paid for something at Wal-Mart with a $5 bill. To my surprise, she took out a pen and made a mark across it.

Really felt insulted as I had never even heard of a $5 counterfeit. I guess they are out there tho.


10 posted on 01/06/2009 10:11:28 AM PST by yarddog
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To: BGHater; All

EASY way to identify counterfeit money.....the clothing of the individual on the bill will be smooth.....on REAL money, the clothing has ridges....i.e. texture....counterfeiters cannot replicate that very easily.


11 posted on 01/06/2009 10:15:03 AM PST by goodnesswins (Tell the truth - GOEBBELIZATION (propaganda) is what many voters suffer from.....)
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To: yarddog
Funny that you mention that.

I always ask the cashier if they have ever found a fake bill after they check mine. Only a few have said yes. But they are out there.

12 posted on 01/06/2009 10:15:08 AM PST by BGHater (Tyranny is always better organised than freedom)
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To: John123
OK... $1 fake bills? Somewhere there is a village missing an idiot

The $5.00 and $1.00 are for change machines. If the bill gets rejected there is no witness to convict you. If it works you pick up 99% profit. Then head to the grocery store with a change counting machine. No interaction with other humans at any point. A group of teenagers hit the change machines at the rest stops along interstate 94. IIRC the cleared over 10 grand in one weekend. Fortunately they were so stupid as to try to hit the exact same rest stops again a week later, where of course the Secret Service was waiting for them.
13 posted on 01/06/2009 10:18:18 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: mysterio

Fake money....It’s all fake now!


14 posted on 01/06/2009 10:29:26 AM PST by refermech
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To: BGHater

These people are just engaging in monetary policy...


15 posted on 01/06/2009 10:32:50 AM PST by JamesP81 (Let the Great RINO Hunt of 2009 begin)
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To: John123
OK... $1 fake bills? Somewhere there is a village missing an idiot...

Yep, and I believe that the penalty is exactly the same for $100's as $1's.

Idiot. Go Big or don't bother.

16 posted on 01/06/2009 10:33:09 AM PST by wbill
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To: KarlInOhio
or just running a few on a color copier to fool a vending machine?

Not that easy, need to use magnetic ink, I think.

The vending machine reads the ink, not the picture on the bill. Or at least it used to, times have changed.

17 posted on 01/06/2009 10:34:27 AM PST by wbill
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To: John123

I saw somewhat get caught passing a fake $1.00 bill once. She didn’t know it was a fake, but it was pretty funny.


18 posted on 01/06/2009 10:36:24 AM PST by cyclotic (Is Michelle Obama really Rita X?)
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To: BGHater

Damn. Another example of Americans not taking pride in the quality of their work.


19 posted on 01/06/2009 10:36:35 AM PST by Sig Sauer P220 (The Big 3 Auto Makers - Where Attention to Kwality is Jobe Won.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Every “dollar” bill in your pocket is fake. It’s just that the Federal Reserve, which is neither federal, nor is it a reserve, has a monopoly on fake money.


20 posted on 01/06/2009 10:41:24 AM PST by SandWMan
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