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Obama picks RIAA's favorite lawyer for a top Justice post
CNet ^ | January 6, 2009 | Declan McCullagh

Posted on 01/06/2009 7:17:53 PM PST by Notary Sojac

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To: deannadurbin
Thomas Jefferson didn’t even believe in copyrights.

There was a controversy, but there is a place for copyrights and there are reasons for setting the period of protection to a long period of time, but it should be limited and less than the lifetime of a human.

41 posted on 01/06/2009 10:52:03 PM PST by dalight
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To: VanDeKoik

Ding!

I’ll be rubbing this in the nose of an Obama supporter who hates the RIAA later. He’s more sophisticated than slashdot, he’s a kuro5hin.org type.

This ought to be fun.


42 posted on 01/07/2009 4:27:51 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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43 posted on 01/07/2009 5:17:02 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: dalight
Slashdotter "benzacar" has put up the best post I have ever seen on that site.

Question:
What about that website Obama's been running? Does it have a way to mod this guy down?

Answer:
It is very much different than here on Slashdot.

You get moderator points only once every 4 years.
Everyone gets moderator points at the same time.
You only get 1 moderator point.
It lasts only 1 day (half actually).
You get to moderate posts of only 2 posters.

Rest of those 4 years all your posts are automatically moderated as -1 Overrated+Troll, and nobody reads them.

But if you happen to have a s**tload of money - you can buy yourself golden undemoteable +5 Insightful+Informative posts.

44 posted on 01/07/2009 6:00:53 AM PST by Notary Sojac
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To: the invisib1e hand

Clearly posted by one of the few undaunted conservatives (in whose company I count myself) on Slashdot.


45 posted on 01/07/2009 6:03:32 AM PST by Notary Sojac
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To: dalight

The US Constitution says for limited times. When copyrights were first enacted in America they were for 14 years and another 14 years if you renewed. Then public domain forever. The way today’s laws have been going copyrights can last for 150 years or more. Several generations. That’s completely unConstitutional.


46 posted on 01/07/2009 7:08:07 AM PST by deannadurbin
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To: dalight
Obama wants to change the system. But in order to do that, he needs insiders, clinton retreads, lobbyists, and big corporate stooges that know how to get shit done. Once he's surrounded by them, he'll be able to change the system.

I know we've joked about the Cult of Obama, but this is classic cult psychology. A disappointment with the predictions of the cult (that Obama will bring "change") does not come with disillusionment, but with rationalization and even an increased adherence to the cult.

47 posted on 01/07/2009 7:37:37 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: the invisib1e hand
property rights and all; who needs ‘em, right?

I might agree with your sentiment if music were actually property.

48 posted on 01/07/2009 7:39:13 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: dalight
and there are reasons for setting the period of protection to a long period of time, but it should be limited and less than the lifetime of a human.

Right there was one of Jefferson's practical objections to copyright. He knew that the power of monopoly is dangerous and would in time be abused, but Madison thought the will of the people would prevent that abuse. Guess who was right.

49 posted on 01/07/2009 7:42:09 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Notary Sojac

I think this guy thoroughly understands our system.


50 posted on 01/07/2009 7:44:19 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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51 posted on 01/07/2009 10:06:24 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: autumnraine
"This guy is like Public Enemy Number One them."

The guy is a pitbull, but he is paid to be that. My neighbor works at a law firm that is hired by eco-wacko-nutcases for logging restrictions. He is paid to do it, it doesn't mean that when he isn't paid for it he agrees with their causes.

Same thing with this guy, now that he isn't being paid he might not give a care about RIAA's views at all.

52 posted on 01/07/2009 10:15:16 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Notary Sojac

and digg. lulz.


53 posted on 01/07/2009 10:24:08 AM PST by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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To: 537cant be wrong; Aeronaut; bassmaner; Bella_Bru; Big Guy and Rusty 99; Brian Allen; cgk; ...

The best government the RIAA can buy.


54 posted on 01/07/2009 10:44:35 AM PST by weegee (Obamunism, just another word for the policies of a NeoCom.)
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To: Notary Sojac
There was also talk during the campaign of adding a new criminal investigation branch specifically for copyright (at the call of the the recording industry)...

Will Obama's copyright czar help save the music? (Yahoo news Sat Nov 15, 2008 Antony Bruno)

Soon after an inauguration that Washington, D.C., insiders are speculating could be one of the musical events of the year, Obama will officially name a copyright czar -- one of the most important decisions he'll make, as far as the music business is concerned.

And FR makes use of fair use provisions within copyright for use of news content.

55 posted on 01/07/2009 10:50:31 AM PST by weegee (Obamunism, just another word for the policies of a NeoCom.)
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To: deannadurbin
The US Constitution says for limited times. When copyrights were first enacted in America they were for 14 years and another 14 years if you renewed. Then public domain forever. The way today’s laws have been going copyrights can last for 150 years or more. Several generations. That’s completely unConstitutional.

Indeed. But the super geniouses on the supreme court decided that eternity-1 day is a "limited time".

Who needs a Constitution when it's being "interpreted" by people with zero common sense.

56 posted on 01/07/2009 11:16:33 AM PST by zeugma (Will it be nukes or aliens? Time will tell.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
I might agree with your sentiment if music were actually property.

"intellectual property." Ask any second-year law student what it is.

Don't feel too stupid, lots of people don't think things like patents and copyrights matter.

57 posted on 01/07/2009 3:24:38 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (revolution is in the air.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
"intellectual property." Ask any second-year law student what it is.

It's a made-up term to cover government-granted monopolies that operate under completely different sets of laws. It includes copyright, patent, trademark, service mark and trade secrets. Except trade secrets aren't monopoly grants, just various differing laws addressing the issue of ill-gotten information. And trade/service mark is only there to prevent confusion in commerce.

You would not believe the confusion I've seen just on this board that was created by that catch-all invented phrase.

Pertaining to copyright and patent, "IP" applies the word "property" to what in reality is considered free, but temporarily restricted by government grant until it goes back to being free. It is not property. The government grant itself can be bought and sold as if it were property, but it's still not property.

That's not to say patents and copyrights don't matter, they're constitutionally supported (trade/service marks and trade secrets aren't). In them we deal with the issue of infringement of rights, not theft, which would apply to actual property. I know the copyright cartel wants you to think it is theft, but it isn't -- it's infringement. That is unless you shoplift a CD, then it's theft, not infringement. Copy the CD, and it may be infringement.

58 posted on 01/07/2009 4:13:34 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Notary Sojac
From an email I got today.
 
"President Obama has nominated David Ogden to a high-level position in his sub-cabinet -- not a position in agriculture or defense but the number two position at the Department of Justice, the Department charged with prosecuting adult and child pornography violations.  The porn industry is so excited by the prospect of having one of their allies in this key position that they have not been able to contain themselves.  XBiz, a leading 'adult' newswire, called Ogden a 'strong pick,' and porn attorney Colin Hardacre of Los Angeles said Ogden's nomination is 'a good sign for the adult industry.' ..."

[Taken from an article by Cathy Ruse Senior Fellow for Legal Studies at the Family Research Council
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=30794

To: Friends
From: Bill Johnson
Re: A Man Who Thinks Child Porn is Free Speech Is Not Fit for Justice
Date: February 23, 2009

Personal note:
 Read this carefully and join with me in calling your U.S. Senator. We must do our best to stop this nomination now. If we do nothing, we will have no one else to blame other than ourselves for not doing our part when we could have.
 The implications of this pornography attorney being placed as the second in command at the U.S. Justice Department are more than I can possibly imagine, but what I can imagine is enough to make me fear for children and their innocence and for their protection and the further "pornification of America"!

Remember, the vote on David Ogden is this Thursday in the Judiciary Committee.  Call your U.S. Senator, 202-224-3121.

Bill Johnson

59 posted on 02/23/2009 4:20:25 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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