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Pro-Jihadists plan synagogue protests – how to respond
Jewish Journal ^ | 6-7-08

Posted on 01/06/2009 10:09:19 PM PST by SJackson

In my email this morning comes word that one group of pro-Hamas, pro-Jihadists supporters is encouraging aligned American Jews and others to go to synagogues on Friday night or Saturday morning and stage a protest.

“Jews especially should be doing these actions,” encourage the protest organizers. The plan is to enter shuls in groups of 3-4 “and – in dignified firm and unemotional voices – repeat “STOP THE KILLING.” The protesters plan to bring along a video camera to record the congregants’ responses.

“I see no possible legal impediment to this. The public, and certainly Jews – cannot be barred from entry to the services,” says the organizer email. “And it will be extremely hard for the synagogues to enforce exclusion.”

Finally, perhaps in an effort to explain why the pro-Hamas supporters are targeting U.S. Jews – when they always claims their beef is with Israel and Zionists, the email reads: “The Jews of America must be confronted with their clear responsibility – far more than complicity – in the mass murders, occupation, and forced starvation of the people of Palestine.”

I doubt this will happen here in Los Angeles or almost anywhere, because the organizers are better at bluster than deeds. But assuming that someone or some few do actually show up and interrupt services, I have some basic advice. Let them.

These kooks are looking for confrontation and looking to generate YouTube-worthy outrage. Their goal is really publicity and self aggrandizement.

If the Rabbi is speaking or the congregation is engaged in prayer when someone stands to protest, I would suggest that a responsible member of each congregation encourage members to finish their prayers and then be seated to “listen” to the protestors. Give them 10 minutes, 20 minutes, whatever it takes to exhaust their rhetoric. Then calmly finish services.

The designated congregation member might, after an appropriate time, say to the protestors, “We’ve given you ample time to state your grievances. Now, please, allow us to resume services.”

If the protestors do not leave or allow services to continue, then, and only then, would I recommend asking security – but never members of the congregation – to step in. If at all possible, have the police arrest and remove the protestors.

At all times, keep in mind the goal of the protestors is to make Jews look aggressive and angry. Don’t be either. Don’t give them the video they so crave of seeing Jews in America acting in a fashion that is unbecoming of our people.

If it were my shul, I’d go so far as to invite them on the pulpit to make their presentation and then answer questions. I’d give them the respect they deny us.

More than being confronted by police or security, I suspect that what these protesters fear most is being confronted by the truth. Their nightmare is actually having to engage in a calm, rationale dialogue.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gaza; hamas; islam; israel; jew; jews; jihad; jihadactivists; leftists; mohammedanism012009; muslims; synagoguessynagogue; unholyalliance
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1 posted on 01/06/2009 10:09:19 PM PST by SJackson
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you’d like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me. High Volume.

Since most states have laws against the disruption of religious services, and since that's the intent of the pro-Hamas folk, I think they should be quietly and respectfully arrested.

2 posted on 01/06/2009 10:10:50 PM PST by SJackson (The American people are wise in wanting change, 2 terms is plenty, Condi Rice)
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If a pro-Hamas, pro-jihadist protester comes to your synagogue

http://www.jewishjournal.com/thegodblog/item/if_a_pro-hamas_pro-jihadist_protester_comes_to_your_synagogue_20090106/

Palestinian wounded at U.N. schoolWell, Israel sure didn’t help it’s war effort today with the IDF’s bombing of a United Nations school, which left 30 dead. (The New York Times has some photos, including the one shown here.) Pressure already was mounting on Israel to enact a ceasefire, and public response to this bombing is sure to turn up the heat.

Protests against Israel’s war with Hamas—some ugly, some comical—have occurred from here to Tampa Bay. But this Shabbat “pro-Hamas, pro-Jihadist” protesters, as Dean Rotbart calls them, may find a platform in shul.

Rotbart reports at The Memo that American Jews—who the protest organizer says are responsible for the “mass murder, occupation, and forced starvation of the people of Palestine”—are being encouraged to sit in synagogue and then at an opportune time, stand up and shout “Stop the Killing!“

“I doubt this will happen here in Los Angeles or almost anywhere, because the organizers are better at bluster than deeds,“ Rotbart writes. “But assuming that someone or some few do actually show up and interrupt services, I have some basic advice. Let them.

“These kooks are looking for confrontation and looking to generate YouTube-worthy outrage. Their goal is really publicity and self aggrandizement.

“If the Rabbi is speaking or the congregation is engaged in prayer when someone stands to protest, I would suggest that a responsible member of each congregation encourage members to finish their prayers and then be seated to “listen” to the protestors. Give them 10 minutes, 20 minutes, whatever it takes to exhaust their rhetoric. Then calmly finish services.“

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3 posted on 01/06/2009 10:12:24 PM PST by SJackson (The American people are wise in wanting change, 2 terms is plenty, Condi Rice)
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To: SJackson

Why not tell the ‘protestors’ the following:

“When your people act like savage beasts and deliberately attack civilian targets like women and children, do not wonder why your people are called ‘palisimians’.”

Act like animal, be called an animal - Understand that, Palisimian!


5 posted on 01/06/2009 10:21:27 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles, When you walk around wi)
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The meaning of “palisimian” will be lost on these savages.


6 posted on 01/06/2009 10:22:50 PM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light!)
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To: Morgana
Could someone copy an Israeli flag for you on Photoshop? Israel Flag
7 posted on 01/06/2009 10:31:53 PM PST by Larousse2 (Like June Carter Cash, "I'm just tryin' to matter.")
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To: SJackson
After the massacre at Mumbai, NO WAY would any thinking person allow them in shul!
8 posted on 01/06/2009 10:35:21 PM PST by Larousse2 (Like June Carter Cash, "I'm just tryin' to matter.")
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To: SJackson

This is bad advice. The jihad agents and their dhimmis will not stop at interrupting the service to state their grievances. They will desecrate the building and its contents, assault the congregation, and defecate in the floors if they have to. We have seen this many times before from media-supported lefty “protesters.”

The author is basing his advice on an attempt to avoid looking bad in the media, not realizing that the media are committed allies of the jihad in most cases. The time for appeasement is long past. Defend yourselves and your place of worship by whatever lawful means necessary and to hell with the media.


10 posted on 01/06/2009 10:44:49 PM PST by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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To: SJackson

I wonder if any local synagogues would need a manned defense perimeter this weekend.............


11 posted on 01/06/2009 10:47:19 PM PST by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: Morgana

A computer software program that allows you to take pictures and edit them, or do great things with graphic images. Why not PING an Admn and ask for help.


12 posted on 01/06/2009 10:49:08 PM PST by Larousse2 (Like June Carter Cash, "I'm just tryin' to matter.")
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To: Thumper1960; GladesGuru; Morgana
These guys will know what to do.
13 posted on 01/06/2009 10:51:31 PM PST by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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To: SJackson
The designated congregation member might, after an appropriate time, say to the protestors,

"...I have a gun and I am afraid for my life. Get out."

14 posted on 01/06/2009 10:55:37 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (0bama must be well-endowed - look at how often he steps on his d---.)
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To: SJackson; dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
I was PM'd this message this morning, or I would not have known. Please Ping your Peeps, and please email your families and friends to the January 6, 2009 Update by U. S. Homeland SecurityWarning to U.S. Jewish Centers
15 posted on 01/06/2009 11:00:52 PM PST by Larousse2 (Like June Carter Cash, "I'm just tryin' to matter.")
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To: SJackson

This is not considered a hate crime? Try doing this to a Mosque.


16 posted on 01/06/2009 11:41:43 PM PST by Dallas59 (Not My President)
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To: SJackson

I suppose that this is how one should respond to peaceful, non-violent, rational people who want to protest and make a point. The problem is that these Muslims are not peaceful, non-violent, rational people: how is anybody to know that the Muslims who are doing this are not wired to blow themselves up, taking the whole Synagogue with them? I wouldn’t let them in ... they are a danger to everybody within the building and, if they do get in, I would evacuate the building immediately. If they’re going to commit suicide we need to minimize the number of innocent people that they kill in the process.


17 posted on 01/07/2009 1:32:18 AM PST by TexasGreg ("Democrats Piss Me Off")
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To: SJackson
There are Holocaust survivors at these various shuls. These Hamas nazi-like tormentors should be arrested for hate crimes.

The Islamic-communist enemy-within is manipulating & mocking our own 'free speech' laws against US.

18 posted on 01/07/2009 2:00:49 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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To: SJackson
it will be extremely hard for the synagogues to enforce exclusion

Most congregations know their regular members. Either you attend Shabbat services or you don't. It would be relatively simple to weed out unwanted strangers.

19 posted on 01/07/2009 2:02:35 AM PST by monkeyshine
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To: SJackson

BTTT with prayers for safety...I DO hope all local police departments have been notified????


20 posted on 01/07/2009 2:11:32 AM PST by Brad’s Gramma ( PRAY! Pray for Israel. Pray for the US.)
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