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NYT: Bush Protested Planned Israeli Strike on Iran (already had plans for U.S. strike!)
Fox News ^ | January 10, 2009

Posted on 01/10/2009 3:53:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Edited on 01/10/2009 3:55:40 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

A secret Israeli plan for airstrikes on Iran's nuclear facility was scuttled last year when the United States rebuffed Israel in its request to fly through Iraqi airspace, according to a New York Times report on a covert U.S. program.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airstrikes; bush; disinformantion; enemdia; geopolitics; iran; iraniannukes; iraq; israel; jihad; nuclearweapons; obama; proliferation; wot
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How did we win World War II with the New York Times around?
1 posted on 01/10/2009 3:53:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How did we win World War II with the New York Times around?

See the book recommended on my FR page for that answer.

2 posted on 01/10/2009 3:56:28 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (revolution is in the air.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Title is wrong. The US did not have plans for a strike.
Just counterinsurgency plans.


3 posted on 01/10/2009 3:57:09 PM PST by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches - hard to get rid of.)
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To: golfisnr1
"Title is wrong. The US did not have plans for a strike. Just counterinsurgency plans."

Isn't that splitting hairs? Taking out their nuclear program is taking out their nuclear program, however accomplished, don't you agree?

4 posted on 01/10/2009 3:59:20 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Don't confuse what you got a right to do with what's right to do." Bill Bennett)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Title implies that ther will be an attack with airpower.


5 posted on 01/10/2009 4:01:37 PM PST by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches - hard to get rid of.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bush made a huge mistake by not allowing Israel the right to fly over Iraq. He made a bigger mistake by not following up on his “I will never allow Iran to make nuclear warhead material while I am in office.”


6 posted on 01/10/2009 4:03:17 PM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The NYT doesn’t strike me as the problem so much as some very loose lipped people in the government. I’m guessing the Iranians probably knew before the Times ever did.


7 posted on 01/10/2009 4:06:42 PM PST by squidly
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Isn't that splitting hairs? Taking out their nuclear program is taking out their nuclear program, however accomplished, don't you agree?

Only problem is that it didn't happen, no matter who didn't accomplish it.

8 posted on 01/10/2009 4:11:42 PM PST by umgud (I'm really happy I wasn't aborted)
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To: Evil Slayer

As a follow up. Bush has only 10 days to rectify those blunders and make it right. Really, he probably only has 5 days at the most. Waiting until the day before zero is sworn in would be kind of strange, although it WOULD be sort of like when Iran released the hostages right after Reagan was sworn in.


9 posted on 01/10/2009 4:11:46 PM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: Evil Slayer

And YOU know this for sure....HOW?

I am laughing at all the Freepr crticisms of Bush, or whoever based on what THEY heard.HA!

As if Bush would ever announce we agreed to let Israel fly over Iraq airspace..HA!

Of COURSE we would allow Israel to fly any dang area they wanted to! they are on OUR side...and their aren’t many countries who will do some of the dirty work. But we sure as hellll aren’t going to announce that!


10 posted on 01/10/2009 4:20:03 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (FREE BLAGO !!! LET HIM SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER !!!)
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To: umgud
Mr. Obama isn't president, yet.
11 posted on 01/10/2009 4:20:32 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Don't confuse what you got a right to do with what's right to do." Bill Bennett)
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To: Evil Slayer

What a way to go out though. One can dream!


12 posted on 01/10/2009 4:23:32 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Unless SCOTUS does something miraculously, we’ll end up with a not-so-nice fraudulent foreigner as prez.


13 posted on 01/10/2009 4:25:15 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: squidly

I agree. The NYT reporter didn’t take an oath to protect classified information, his/her source did.


14 posted on 01/10/2009 4:26:55 PM PST by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

LOL...you got me on the not allowing Israel to fly over Iraq but what about his promise on the second one?


15 posted on 01/10/2009 4:27:05 PM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They probably held the story until the end of the Bush admin so that they’d be certain they’d not be prosecuted.


16 posted on 01/10/2009 4:28:16 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Evil Slayer; Chieftain

Hey, thanks for responding so courteously to my over the top post !

Perhaps Bush has intelligence that would allow another way to deal with Achmad-dinnerjacket...

Or, here’s one....Blagoevich is working on a deal to get paid by Cheney to personally sneak over to Iran to take out the the nuclear warheads! Or at least read rudyad Kipling to the Mullahs, while we take out the nuke facillities.

( yes, I had a lot of coffee today..in preperation for the return of Jack Bauer tomorrow night!)


17 posted on 01/10/2009 4:37:00 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (FREE BLAGO !!! LET HIM SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER !!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The liberal media didn’t have anywhere near a monopoly back then. Plus, FDR was one heck of a communicator. Bush isn’t.


18 posted on 01/10/2009 4:39:45 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (All your base are belong to us)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

...Fox News “reporting” baloney for the New York Times. That’s no surprise, either.


19 posted on 01/10/2009 5:07:08 PM PST by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: familyop

I’m not buying it...just like the Israelis purposely played the press for the last six months insisting they had no intention of striking Gaza. This sounds to me like a leak the Israelis wanted to make, so that Iran is lulled into a false sense of complacency that no strike will occur....until BAM!


20 posted on 01/10/2009 5:17:31 PM PST by kregger1
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To: perez24

Isn’t this the same reporter re prior leaks? Who is his source? Surely this should not be hard to track down.
Doesn’t anybody care?


21 posted on 01/10/2009 5:19:25 PM PST by pugmama
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To: pugmama

bttt


22 posted on 01/10/2009 5:22:49 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
FDR was one heck of a communicator. liar Bush isn’t.

There, FIXED!

23 posted on 01/10/2009 5:45:48 PM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
NYbankrupslimes is a propaganda rag. Israel will do what they want to do. They will fly over Iran and nobody will stop them. I hope they do it before 1/20. I think 1/19 would be a very good day to just scoot on over to Iran and take out their nuclear. Rain on zer0’s parade. he will have a breakdown.
24 posted on 01/10/2009 5:47:20 PM PST by mojitojoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet


25 posted on 01/10/2009 5:48:05 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist -)
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To: Chode

So true.


26 posted on 01/10/2009 5:49:54 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: mojitojoe

correction fly over Iraq to Iran


27 posted on 01/10/2009 5:55:17 PM PST by mojitojoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I heard the NY Times will be gone by May.


28 posted on 01/10/2009 6:01:59 PM PST by firebrand
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The tool could be the times, cnn was


29 posted on 01/10/2009 6:14:58 PM PST by reefdiver (How do you keep the Conservative a Conservative, in Washington DC ?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ok. Let me get this straight. The NY Slimes is disclosing deep covert operations to destabilize Iranian nuclear assets. Sure glad I'm not in the field in Iran tonight!
30 posted on 01/10/2009 6:19:10 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Evil Slayer

Israeli planes flying over Iraqi airspace would have caused a monumental problem.


31 posted on 01/10/2009 6:20:10 PM PST by Carley
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To: Chode
Gu powder and munitions hidden in Lexington and Concord. Film at 11:00!
32 posted on 01/10/2009 6:20:12 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Chode

Local farmers and tradesmen part of conspiracy to hoard munitions for possible dust up with British.


33 posted on 01/10/2009 6:21:11 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: perez24
I agree. The NYT reporter didn’t take an oath to protect classified information, his/her source did.

This source needs to hang.

34 posted on 01/10/2009 6:22:24 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"How did we win World War II with the New York Times around?"

Clearly, the President had more resolve than any member of the Bush family.

And more respect for our allies.

35 posted on 01/10/2009 6:24:48 PM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: mojitojoe
...he will have a breakdown.

This is accurate. The fool was elected by pop culture teeny boppers. This is a man's job (or, at least Hillary's job).

Thanks Rush, for your Operation Chaos. Wonderful result!

36 posted on 01/10/2009 6:24:51 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Carley
Israeli planes flying over Iraqi airspace would have caused a monumental problem.

...for the IRANIANS!

37 posted on 01/10/2009 6:26:10 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
"Of COURSE we would allow Israel to fly any dang area they wanted to!"

Oh, Really...?

38 posted on 01/10/2009 6:26:37 PM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: April Lexington
Thanks Rush, for your Operation Chaos. Wonderful result!

You apparently aren't familiar with the objective of Operation Chaos. Nor it's relative success.

39 posted on 01/10/2009 7:01:10 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: okie01
You apparently aren't familiar with the objective of Operation Chaos. Nor it's relative success.

RELATIVE SUCCESS! We would be infinitely better off if the beast were being sworn in on the 20th. Maybe next time we can actually nominate a conservative?!?!?!

Operation Chaos created the path for Obama. Rush knows it as well as everyone else. Obama is his creation to some extent.

40 posted on 01/10/2009 7:04:24 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: April Lexington
yup...
41 posted on 01/10/2009 7:08:40 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist -)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In the interest of cutting to the chase, President George W. Bush is on the record as having stated as recently as this past December 5th, “America will not allow Iran to develop a nuclear weapon”.

As it is not possible for our current President to know or guarantee what his successor will do regarding this issue, the bottom line is that George W. Bush effectively has eight days to neuter Iran’s nuclear weapons program, or he goes down in history as nothing but a limp dick who talked the talk, but couldn’t walk the walk.

That’s it. It’s time for GWB to fish or cut bait.


42 posted on 01/10/2009 7:15:40 PM PST by mkjessup ("An empty limousine pulled up in front of the White House, and Barack Hussein Obama got out")
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To: April Lexington
Operation Chaos created the path for Obama.

Quite the contrary. Operation Chaos was specifically designed to help Hillary back into contention -- to give Obama some competition. Somebody had to publicly air Obama's negatives -- since McCain's campaign had already promised not to go negative on Obama. Hillary was the only person who could do this.

Recall that, once Operation Chaos started, Hillary started winning primaries. Indeed, it was clear that she would not have won several states (e.g., Indiana) had it not been for Operation Chaos and conservatives re-registering as Democrats.

Operation Chaos achieved its objective. It helped Hillary make a race of it. And gave her an opportunity to throw a little mud.

Thus, it's hardly "responsible" for Obama in any way.

43 posted on 01/10/2009 7:16:30 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The New York Slimes has already filed for some sort of bankruptcy protection, I believe. None too soon!


44 posted on 01/10/2009 7:18:34 PM PST by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: okie01
Well, let me thing about your comments for a few minutes. You make some good points. Obama could have steamrolled right through the primaries without the beast in the mix.

I never, never, never thought Obama could win running so far to the Left. America is dead.

45 posted on 01/10/2009 7:19:27 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: mkjessup
The next 10 days could be VERY interesting. Or NOT.
46 posted on 01/10/2009 7:20:40 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: okie01

By the way, I’m a HUGE Rush fan. Just think he may have gotten this one wrong (or, maybe, it just got away from us).


47 posted on 01/10/2009 7:23:39 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Chode

GEORGE WASHINGTON: WHAT DID HE KNOW, AND WHEN DID HE KNOW IT?


48 posted on 01/10/2009 7:28:39 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

answer: General Patton who wasn’t afraid to tell treasonous scum like those who currently work at the NY Times to shove it up their backsides.


49 posted on 01/10/2009 7:42:26 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: golfisnr1

What you are referring to are contingency plans. And I’ll bet those plans get updated every couple of weeks.


50 posted on 01/10/2009 7:59:38 PM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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