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Ex-official's guns legal, lawyer says
Press of Atlantic City ^ | 01/10/2009 | Steven Lemongello

Posted on 01/12/2009 9:24:38 AM PST by gieriscm

The attorney for former Northfield zoning official Stephen Goldstein - arrested last year on multiple weapons charges after police discovered an Uzi and what they said was a "sawed-off" shotgun in his house - said Friday that the reason prosecutors decided to offer a plea deal on lesser charges was that both guns were actually legal.

Atlantic County Prosecutor Ted Housel, however, said the Uzi was not legal but that Goldstein might have honestly believed it was due to confusion over its registration status. As for the shotgun, "It fell (inside) of the legal parameters by an inch or so."

(Excerpt) Read more at pressofatlanticcity.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: banglist
Bravo-Sierra like this is why I will never set foot in NJ.
1 posted on 01/12/2009 9:24:39 AM PST by gieriscm
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To: gieriscm
"It's a good resolution for everybody," Weintrob said. "Mr. Goldstein will never have those weapons again."

How does confiscation of a perfectly legal shotgun come in as a "good" resolution? Welcome to the Byzantine world of gun control.

3 posted on 01/12/2009 9:35:40 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: gieriscm

The guns were legal and he committed no crime, yet they are STILL going to keep his property and destroy it?


4 posted on 01/12/2009 9:38:02 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Obama is living proof that stupid people should not be allowed to vote.)
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To: Billthedrill
"Mr. Goldstein will never have those weapons again."

Why aren't his legal guns returned to him?

5 posted on 01/12/2009 9:40:47 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: gieriscm
Notice, one brief mention of the "old hand grenades". Does this mean they were just display or orientation grenades, they kind that don't go boom (to use language the prosecutor might understand.)

As for the shotgun, quote: "Whoever created (the gun), whether it was something manufactured that way or something created (afterward), whoever created it was cognizant of the law," Housel said.

Gee, ya think?

Mossberg Cruiser - 18.5 inch barrel, 12 gauge, six round mag. Perfectly legal.

6 posted on 01/12/2009 9:48:15 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: gieriscm
"It's a good resolution for everybody," Weintrob said. "Mr. Goldstein will never have those weapons again."

So, the government of NJ thinks thievery is OK as long as it's the gubmint doing the thieving. I get it....
7 posted on 01/12/2009 9:56:56 AM PST by JamesP81 (Let the Great RINO Hunt of 2009 begin)
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To: gieriscm
...the reason prosecutors decided to offer a plea deal on lesser charges was that both guns were actually legal.

Good to know that when you are innocent, the government is willing to leat you plea to a lesser charge.

8 posted on 01/12/2009 10:07:27 AM PST by SampleMan (Community Organizer: What liberals do when they run out of college, before they run out of Marxism.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

This is more the type of case I had in mind as well as some of the open carry protesters that get arrested.


9 posted on 01/12/2009 11:29:49 AM PST by Eagle Eye (Libs- If you don't have to play the rules then neither do we...THINK ABOUT IT!)
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To: gieriscm
Housel said Goldstein did voluntarily register the Uzi under its old classification as a rifle in 1989, but after the law changed in 1990 there was a "grace period for (some) individuals who met certain criteria" to register their Uzis under the new classification as an assault weapon. Goldstein's Uzi was never registered as an assault weapon, Housel said.

creating crime out of thin air... "hey it's just a regestration, like you car. Just common sense, right?"

10 posted on 01/12/2009 11:30:28 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Eagle Eye

This case certainly isn’t anywhere near as far out in left field ...


11 posted on 01/12/2009 11:45:32 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Eagle Eye
Goldstein ended up pleading guilty to two amended charges of disorderly conduct resulting in a combined fine of $127. The weapons are in the custody of the Northfield police and could be either destroyed or sold, James said. "It's a good resolution for everybody," Weintrob said. "Mr. Goldstein will never have those weapons again."

All right ...

Tar. Feathers. Rail.

Use only as directed.

12 posted on 01/12/2009 11:48:05 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

IMO the tar and feather solution should be reinstated.


13 posted on 01/12/2009 12:00:00 PM PST by Eagle Eye (Libs- If you don't have to play the rules then neither do we...THINK ABOUT IT!)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I’m not familiar with NJ law, but would think that “disorderly conduct” is a misdemeanor and not a disqualifier for owning a firearm.


14 posted on 01/12/2009 12:05:12 PM PST by gieriscm (07 FFL / 02 SOT - www.extremefirepower.com)
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To: gieriscm
Are you referring to this: "Mr. Goldstein will never have those weapons again."?

If so ... the point is, they took his guns and they refuse to give them back. Sure, maybe he can buy more ... it's still theft under colour of the law.

THAT'S why I'm invoking the method of Dr. Tarr and Prof. Fethers.

15 posted on 01/12/2009 12:52:50 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Looks to me like a good case for a civil rights suit. They should be vulnerable to suit under Title 42, because they conspired to violate his civil rights. They took his property without compensation and he was denied due process.


16 posted on 01/13/2009 5:22:52 PM PST by Mi5ke561 (Tyranny-- A criminal Organization Masquerading As A Government)
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