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Washington Court: Teachers Can Have Sex With 18-Year-Old Students
Fox News ^ | Tuesday, January 13, 2009

Posted on 01/13/2009 3:59:22 PM PST by Sopater

SEATTLE — Washington state law does not bar teachers from having sex with 18-year-old students.

That's the decision of a three-judge panel of the Washington Court of Appeals, which on Tuesday ordered the dismissal of a case brought against Hoquiam High School's former choir teacher.

The teacher, Matthew Hirschfelder, was charged with first-degree sexual misconduct with a minor. He challenged a judge's refusal to dismiss his case. The appeals court unanimously agreed that the state law is vague, and that the Legislature only intended to forbid sexual contact between school employees and students who are 16 or 17.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: activistcourts; ageofconsentlaws; culturewar; homeschool; naughtyteacherlist; publicschool; sexpositiveagenda
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To: goldi
(I believe the school leaving age in Washington is 18),

It's 16.

41 posted on 01/13/2009 5:50:59 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: Iron Munro
It seems he would have been on solid ground with a 14 year old.

A 14 year old would be charged as a more serious crime.

42 posted on 01/13/2009 5:52:25 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: The Bat Man; nahanrac

I brought my pencil....


43 posted on 01/13/2009 5:55:35 PM PST by lilycicero (Speaking of hot for the teacher....we had one....but he was a priest.)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Hey, Great!


45 posted on 01/13/2009 6:07:13 PM PST by goldi
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To: hinckley buzzard

I see this the same way as you. There is a problem with those who have an “authoritative” role in someone’s life that then crosses the line when it comes to sexuality. These girls or boys may technically be adults, but emotionally and psychologically there arises many, many problems when one partner has this type of “control” whether real, or imagined within a relationship.

As you said, just as it is immoral and unethical for a therapist or doctor to engage in sexual relations with their patients, so too is it immoral and unethical for teachers (or professors, even - as in college-age students) to engage in sexual relations with their students.

While these teachers may face no criminal punishment, one would hope they would be fired all the same for their unethical behavior.


46 posted on 01/13/2009 6:20:46 PM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ Pro-Palin & NObama Gear : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Sopater

After doing a bit of research, the Court of Appeals had no choice but to reverse the conviction. Not saying I like the idea of a teacher having sex with even an 18 year old student , but it is a problem for the legislature to fix.


47 posted on 01/13/2009 6:26:42 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: lilycicero

I wonder what idiot wrote that law? You can’t have sex with other adults in the workplace, but one of your adult students? That’s fine....


49 posted on 01/13/2009 7:01:51 PM PST by nahanrac
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To: Centurion2000

“Didn’t teachers used to have things like Moral Turpitude clauses inserted in their contracts?”

Those were removed about 10 years ago when the White House declared oral sex was not sex.


50 posted on 01/13/2009 7:05:33 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: r9etb
A quick thought ~ these justices were hot off the mark with ideas about having sex with 18 year olds.

Muy interesante. Aiy Carumba!

51 posted on 01/13/2009 7:21:54 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Impy; fieldmarshaldj

A lot of men 30 and older are wondering why there weren’t hot female teachers like this when they were in high school.

:::::snickers:::::


52 posted on 01/13/2009 7:48:02 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (If greed is a virtue, than corporate socialism is conservative)
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To: Sopater

the opinion should read: Hot Teachers can have sex with...


53 posted on 01/13/2009 7:49:39 PM PST by isom35
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To: Texas_shutterbug

If it is in his empolyment contract that he is unable to have sex with current students, then I would agree it should cost him his job.


54 posted on 01/13/2009 7:50:45 PM PST by Perdogg (Only the hypnotized never lie)
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To: MBB1984

So in other words, Big Government is okay as long as it is doing what you want, correct?


55 posted on 01/13/2009 7:52:45 PM PST by Perdogg (Only the hypnotized never lie)
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To: Clintonfatigued

My teachers looked like Janet Reno and Judy Martz.


56 posted on 01/13/2009 8:15:09 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: nahanrac

Heheh...I am going to infiltrate WA too.


57 posted on 01/13/2009 8:27:17 PM PST by lilycicero (The orders dropped today........)
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To: Sopater

Well 18 IS the legal age. I still don’t like the idea of someone in a position of power doing this however.


58 posted on 01/13/2009 8:29:21 PM PST by Grunthor (Democracy: Theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard)
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To: Texas_shutterbug; Perdogg

I’m guessing we’re in the minority here (I really hope not) but come on you can’t criminalize sex between consenting adults especially for one partner only. How ridiculous. The DAs wasted there time pursing this case. Fire hire yes, (he quit) take away his teaching license if you want but you can’t make it crime for a 30-something year old to have consensual sex with an 18-year old.


59 posted on 01/13/2009 11:41:26 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Um this topic is about a male teacher and an 18-year old girl.

But yes.

Even 25 and older.

A pic of my 4th grade teacher is online. I fear freepers would be stuck blind so I won’t post a pic of her. I had nothing to fear though...don’t think she played on our side.


60 posted on 01/13/2009 11:47:56 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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