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Europe baffled by broken gas promises
FT.com ^ | 1-13-09 | Isabel Gorst in Moscow, Joshua Chaffin in Brussels and Roman Olearchyk in Kiev

Posted on 01/14/2009 1:55:42 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182

The bitter gas dispute between Russia and Ukraine descended into near-chaos on Tuesday, leaving European Union diplomats baffled as promises to restart supplies fully were broken and Moscow suggested that the US had meddled in the affair.

In a potentially alarming twist on Tuesday night, Gazprom, the Russian gas company, said it was unable to meet its legal commitments to supply European countries with gas because Ukraine was allegedly blocking the flow across its territory.[snip]............

EU officials said the monitors had, after long delays, been given access to control rooms at gas dispatch centres but they would not predict when flows would resume.

Jonathan Stern, head of gas research at the Oxford Institute of Energy Studies, said Russian and Ukrainian statements were “all smoke and mirrors”.

“We should not be listening now to what Medvedev or Naftogaz tell us. We should be listening to the monitors,” he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at ft.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: commie; energy; naturalgas; putin; russia; ussr
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To: Anti-Bubba182

So why isn’t Gerhard Schröder’s name more prominent in this debacle? He was championed by American leftists and Euroweenies as their example of a true leader for the way that he stabbed America in the back during the run-up to the Iraq war. Then he took his reward by joining Gazprom. His fingers have to be all over this, yet ‘strangely’ we hear nothing about him in any of these articles...


21 posted on 01/14/2009 2:28:40 PM PST by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Why on earth would anyone trust or believe anything from jack-booted neo-Soviet commie thugs?

Oh, I forgot, socialist Euro-weenies will believe anything that makes them feel good.


22 posted on 01/14/2009 2:34:16 PM PST by Enchante (Jan. 20, 2009: There is not enough scotch whiskey in the world to drown my sorrows now..........)
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To: marron
Focus on building nukes? Heck, the Germans are busy shutting down all of their nukes!
23 posted on 01/14/2009 2:38:40 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Barack Obama is a Disney character. His wife - a product of Marvel Comics.)
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To: Frantzie

The outright sabotage that the US took part in by selling defective parts by proxy to the USSR for their pipelines was absolute brilliance.

Ronald Reagan, please come back.


24 posted on 01/14/2009 2:55:40 PM PST by Carling (After the post-election GOP attacks against Gov. Palin, I am sad to say I am leaving the party..)
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To: Carling

Was it defective parts or was it bogus plans for a valve or something that the USSR stole, copied and caused a refinery (?) to blow up.


25 posted on 01/14/2009 2:59:01 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: Anti-Bubba182

What’s happened here is the the Ukrainians have been pilfering gas from the transit-pipes for years and the Russians have been looking the other way (for whatever reason). Finally, at the end of last year, the Russians got fed up and told Ukraine that they can damn well pay for the gas, same as anyone else. In response, the Ukraine shut off the transit-pipes in hopes to blackmail Russian companies into giving them significantly lower prices on the gas than other European customers are paying.

Once the north-stream pipeline is completed (which will run under the baltic sea directly to Germany) and the expansion of the blue-stream Russia-Turkey pipeline under the Black Sea is upgraded, Ukraine won’t have any leverage anymore.

Truth is, Russia needs the gas to flow as much as, or more, than Europe does. It’s one of their major sources of foreign trade and currency. Every second that gas is turned off is a second Europe is working on alternatives and Russia can ill afford that. While I distrust Russia in every instance, in this particular it’s the Ukrainians doing the mugging.


26 posted on 01/14/2009 3:08:21 PM PST by SwedishConservative
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; justiceseeker93; ..
Europe isn't too freakin' bright.
Gazprom, the Russian gas company, said it was unable to meet its legal commitments to supply European countries with gas because Ukraine was allegedly blocking the flow across its territory.
Russia has been laying groundwork to invade the Ukraine. There's also the possibility that Russia *can't* supply the gas due to infrastructure failures (and incompetence).
27 posted on 01/14/2009 3:21:51 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
and Moscow suggested that the US had meddled in the affair

I was just waiting for this one...

28 posted on 01/14/2009 3:23:44 PM PST by John123 (The US may be going down the drain, but everyone else will drown first...)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Some days, the bear gets you...


29 posted on 01/14/2009 3:40:45 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Sometimes, the sheer, unadulterated ignorance of people CONFOUND me....


30 posted on 01/14/2009 3:46:00 PM PST by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: Frantzie
Can't remember exactly. The plans sound more correct. Plans that were fed to the USSR via foreign agents. You know, back when our intel actually protected our national interests.

I read about it in a book a while back. Crusader by Paul Kengor, perhaps? I'd have to review my notes.

31 posted on 01/14/2009 4:40:05 PM PST by Carling (After the post-election GOP attacks against Gov. Palin, I am sad to say I am leaving the party..)
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To: Badeye

Europeans are beyond redemption. Did they really think, when they tied themselves to Russian oil, it would not be ultimately be used as a club by the Russian government?

Of course, leftist demrats here at home, have managed to do the same thing here. They block every attempt at making us independent of Mid East oil. That is why we have soldiers fighting and dying in Iraq and Afghanistan—even more than Al Queda’s dastardly 9/11 attack. Afterall, if we weren’t buying Mid East oil the muslim terrorists could not make the argument that America is exploiting the region.


32 posted on 01/14/2009 5:32:33 PM PST by dools007
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To: MrB

EU: Russia stinks when it doesn’t pass gas.


33 posted on 01/14/2009 6:25:39 PM PST by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
When Putin said the gas flow would resume, the stupid euros should have known that meant the opposite was true.

How long is it going to take for them to realize they are dealing with the Russian Mob ?

A whole lot of Pleasure mixed with some Business.

34 posted on 01/14/2009 9:17:38 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: SwedishConservative
The battle of the oligarchs behind the gas dispute

Oligarchs. IE - Mob Bosses.

35 posted on 01/14/2009 9:20:47 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Highleyman

Kinda funny the arrogance they routinely exhibit towards us isn’t backed up by sound judgement on the world stage, for the last century, isn’t it?


36 posted on 01/15/2009 5:54:00 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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