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Why is Bush the root of all evil for nearly everyone, I wonder? Where is the blame for the democrats with whom he had to compromise? The RINOs in Congress who sent him all that spending? The corrupt Delay leadership that passed out entitlements like candy? And exactly how was President Bush supposed to muster the political capital to fight this war and at the same time succeed against all of this foolishness?

And for all of you true, pure, and untainted conservatives who love to pound Bush relentlessly on this site, who is the true, pure, and untainted leader who will deliver us from the mess we are in? Will it be Fred Thompson in 2012? Pro-life Giuliani? Universal health care Romney? If the pure conservative case is so compelling, how is it that our party has no leader who can effectively make that case?

I look at Bush's record and I see a guy with balls of steel, who kept us safe and who advanced this war against radical Islam in ways that won't be fully evident for many years. We have lost nearly 5,000 precious American lives, but any objective counting of the enemy casualties in the decade after 9/11 will rise to more than 1 million worldwide, especially if we include intra-terrorist fighting, and with trillions of dollars in losses to those we wage war against.

To husband his scarce political capital for this effort, he ended up punting on some issues that are dear to conservatives, and that I believe he would like to have tackled. But in doing so he did the right thing, and if others in the GOP had not been so stupid, and if our leading think tanks and pundits and other GOP luminaries had been more disciplined and on the offensive, Bush would have had a good deal more political capital to wield. We Republicans let the Democrats piss away a lot of political capital defending against a gold-digging Valerie Plame, a handful of waterboarded terrorists, and a Katrina debacle that was 100% the fault of the locals -- Nagin, Blanco, et al. Truly, what did all of the so-called scandals of the Bush Administration amount to, and where were Bush's Party compadres? The vast majority of them, from elected officials to pundits at National Review to posters at places like FR, all found it easier to put all blame on Bush than to stand up for what is right.

I love this President. The Bush-Rumsfeld-Cheney-Gates-Patreus war has fundamentally and profoundly changed the course of human history, entirely for the better, and with breathtakingly few adverse consequences for our side. Anything else he may have accomplished would be gravy. And oh, what he could have accomplished but for the weak, unprincipled, and corrupt fellow Republicans who should have been at his side but were not!

1 posted on 01/17/2009 7:11:11 AM PST by drellberg
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To: drellberg
I already answered you here.

Homeland security is "necessary but NOT sufficient."

Cheers!

2 posted on 01/17/2009 7:29:31 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: drellberg
Where is the blame for the democrats with whom he had to compromise?

Bush was a disaster when it came to domestic spending. Karl Rove, a legend in his own mind, was the one pushing such things as the prescription drug program, no child left behind, etc. in order to co-opt Dem issues. It didn't work and we are left with enormous programs with huge unfunded liabilities. Bush scarcely used his veto for most of his term, during which he enjoyed Rep control over Congress.

The RINOs in Congress who sent him all that spending? The corrupt Delay leadership that passed out entitlements like candy? And exactly how was President Bush supposed to muster the political capital to fight this war and at the same time succeed against all of this foolishness?

The buck stops in the WH. It is something called leadership. Bush could have vetoed McCain-Feingold. Instead, he signed it and then issued a statement about his reserverations about its constitutionality. He supported amnesty against the majority of his own party and failed to support Sensenbrenner' enforcement only bill [HR 4437] in the House.

I look at Bush's record and I see a guy with balls of steel, who kept us safe and who advanced this war against radical Islam in ways that won't be fully evident for many years. We have lost nearly 5,000 precious American lives, but any objective counting of the enemy casualties in the decade after 9/11 will rise to more than 1 million worldwide, especially if we include intra-terrorist fighting, and with trillions of dollars in losses to those we wage war against.

I support his foreign policy and the war in Iraq, but I have a difficult time reconciling that with his failure to move quickly on securing our borders, including fully implementing the US VISIT program to track and deport visa overstays. If this country is hit again with a 9/11 attack and it is found that the perpetrators came into this country thru our porous borders or thru a visa overstay, then you might want to reevaluate how safe he really made this country.

To husband his scarce political capital for this effort, he ended up punting on some issues that are dear to conservatives, and that I believe he would like to have tackled.

An amnesty will destroy this country with the stroke of a pen, and yet, Bush in his validictory expressed regret that he couldn't get it done. This is insanity.

And oh, what he could have accomplished but for the weak, unprincipled, and corrupt fellow Republicans who should have been at his side but were not!

Sorry, but loyalty begets loyalty. Bush took stances against the majority of his own party on critical issues. And he failed to use the Congressional majority he had to make some real changes. And now he leaves office with a Rep party in disarray and in the minority, perhaps for generations. I was particularly dismayed with his appointment of Martinez as RNC Chairman, a slap in the face to conservatives.

3 posted on 01/17/2009 7:41:52 AM PST by kabar
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To: drellberg; Gondring; SinCityMom; Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer); Hillary'sMoralVoid; tatown; ...
RE :”where were Bush's Party compadres? The vast majority of them, from elected officials to pundits at National Review to posters at places like FR, all found it easier to put all blame on Bush than to stand up for what is right.

Like the investor and GM/UAW bailouts? Did democrats force him to do those too? So we blame everything GWB did big gov, wall street, socialist, on democrats. That makes GWB our greatest president ever I guess. Massive spending on the nation's credit card is cowardly and it set a precident for what democrats plan this year. In fact using his logic, republicans should give their full support to democrats now and blame them later.

5 posted on 01/17/2009 7:51:17 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : " How would my treasury secretary know to pay taxes?")
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To: drellberg; sickoflibs; Gondring
I look at Bush's record and I see a guy with balls of steel, who kept us safe and who advanced this war against radical Islam in ways that won't be fully evident for many years.

And yet he saw fit to leave our southern border wide open for illegal aliens and only God knows what else.

6 posted on 01/17/2009 7:54:13 AM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: drellberg

“Where is the blame for the democrats with whom he had to compromise? The RINOs in Congress who sent him all that spending? The corrupt Delay leadership that passed out entitlements like candy? “

Where was his veto pen?


14 posted on 01/17/2009 8:21:17 AM PST by Pessimist
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To: drellberg
It is now known as the Wall Street Urinal... owned by that liberal bastion of socialism and obammy supporter... murdoch the magnificent!

LLS

16 posted on 01/17/2009 8:24:55 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: drellberg
The Bush-Rumsfeld-Cheney-Gates-Patreus war has fundamentally and profoundly changed the course of human history

TRUE.

entirely for the better

FALSE.

and with breathtakingly few adverse consequences for our side.

ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS...

...unless, of course, you're a liberal.

In that case, the Bush Presidency was a grand success!

18 posted on 01/17/2009 8:28:44 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: drellberg
BTW... do not take my post about the wsj as approval of Bush's domestic policies. I voted for him twice and was disappointed far more times than I voted for him. All said... hussein will make us long for Bush again.

LLS

19 posted on 01/17/2009 8:30:45 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: drellberg; grey_whiskers; sickoflibs; rabscuttle385

Bush was in charge, he gets the larged piece of blame pie.

I loathe the democrats. I would like to see them reduced to the gays-only party. They are the fecal icing on the blame pie.

“Political capital” is not a stack of 20’s that he “spent” all on the war. I’m so sick of hearing about “political capital”. What a stupid nonsense red herring.

He could a have vetoed McStain Feingold and the disgusting farm pork bill in 2001 BEFORE 911. He could have vetoed ANYTHING. He didn’t till term 2.

Of course the rinos get a ton of blame but he went along, he never vetoed their pork-laden bills.

DeLay was a good on many fronts but yes he used pork, he and incompetent twit Hastert presided over the RINO congress. Hence they suck. And rats took both their seats (Delay’s only because a judge wouldn’t let the GOP on the ballot and we took it back in 2008)

Bush didn’t have to pick 3 epically crappy Treasury Secretarys. The first was an idiot. The third is a DEMOCRAT!

He decided to be for the bailout, no one held a gun to his head, he’s a fool. Then the auto-bailout FIAT! Despicable.

Katrina was not his fault. Nagin and Blanco get most the blame. But “Browie” was NOT “doing a heck of a job” Brownie was a Bush crony completely unqualified for the job of FEMA director so it’s his own fault he took a hit over that.

The Iraq surge (which as we see easily won the war) was needed for over 2 years before it actually happened. Bush did nothing and watched his and his parties poll #s head to the toilet as needless American causalities added up. All he ever did was repeat the same lines about WMDs and such (they aren’t there the intel was wrong oh no I forgot they were secretly moved to Syria right). And we need to “stay the course” when the course was a new American corpse everyday. He was Lyndon Johnsoning it up over Iraq. Boneheaded move.

He NEVER stood up for his good polices. Never countered the media and the democrats. I will never understand this. It doesn’t make any sense.

As of now he hasn’t pardoned a wrongly imprisoned solider he allowed to be scapegoated over a civilian death. He should have sent the guy home for Christmas.

If he doesn’t do it he’ll lose even more points with me.


20 posted on 01/17/2009 8:34:51 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: drellberg

And shamnesty, no one forced him to support that either. Face it he’s not a conservative and wasn’t a good President.


21 posted on 01/17/2009 8:36:35 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: drellberg
"...Mr. Bush's spending record is less admirable, especially during his first term. He indulged the majority Republicans on Capitol Hill, refusing to veto overspending ..."

LOL, understatement!!

23 posted on 01/17/2009 8:38:17 AM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: drellberg
When you don't stand up and defend yourself aggressively, you give people the impression you are either guilty as charged or a sissy who won't fight for himself against bullies.

Bush started his presidency by allowing the outgoing Clinton staff to vandalize the White House with human feces and the theft of property. He should have had them arrested and prosecuted.

Every time he let the left trash him, he just made them more audacious.

Bush should have kicked the Democrats' asses from day one.

27 posted on 01/17/2009 8:43:12 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: drellberg
I look at Bush's record and I see a guy with balls of steel, who kept us safe and who advanced this war against radical Islam in ways that won't be fully evident for many years.

Here's a picture of Mr. Steel Balls making a deal with the chief financier of Islamic extremism. W wanted to keep our borders wide open while declaring Islam the religion of peace.

39 posted on 01/17/2009 10:03:27 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: drellberg

Look, W made some significant agendas come true that worked: tax cuts, picking Alito and Roberts, pursuing the Islamofascists when the Dems caved to terrorism, but he also failed in the education, farming, over spending areas. Altogether, a decent man, an average Pres because he failed to stand for conserv Pub principles and let to the failures of much of the Republican Party’s standings.We shall see how the socialist pacifist nee change artist, the Messiah does with his stimulus, spending, not cutting the proper taxes and dealing with Islamofascism. Then historians can judge whether W did better than BO or the reverse happened.


40 posted on 01/17/2009 10:20:07 AM PST by phillyfanatic ( iT)
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To: drellberg
I look at Bush's record and I see a guy with balls of steel, who kept us safe

Don't give me that "Kept us safe" bull sh*t.

I look at Bush's record and see a guy that stood by as tens of millions entered this country illegally, illegals that have trashed entire cities, neighborhoods...

I see a guy that not only stood by and watched, but publicly encouraged a violent illegal invasion of our country, an invasion that has left tens of thousands of American rape, robbery, burglary, injury and murder victims in it's path.

Not to mention the epic fraud this has caused, to the point where it has literally undermined and compromised our entire system, including our very electoral process.

43 posted on 01/17/2009 10:26:49 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: drellberg
I look at Bush's record and I see a guy with balls of steel, who kept us safe

Tell that to the parents of the 9 year old girl that was warped around the axle of a truck, driven by illegal aliens that had just robbed a home in her neighborhood. Tell that to tens of thousands of American that have become victims of this violent invasion, all aided and abetted by President Bush.

I can list endless tragic events, many of which are no less violent or deadly than any terrorist attack.

44 posted on 01/17/2009 10:34:54 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: drellberg

I heard someone say yesterday why the left so hates Bush.

#1 - they believe he stole the 2000 election.

#2 - Iraq war.

I agree with this analysis. Add to that, the nation has never been more ideologically polarized, and I include myself in that assessment. I feel like we are playing for all the marbles now, from the left stacking the court and dismantling the US Constitution, to implementing all-out socialism. So at least in my case, I certainly see the need for pure polarization. This is a culture war between socialism and freedom, pure and simple.

Now going back to the 2 reasons above why the left hates Bush so much, those points are dripping with hypocrisy...

Which party is rampant with voter fraud? Which party keeps counting until they win? Which party asks judges to throw out military absentee votes? Which party forces the opposition to resign for minor ethics violations while not removing their own from office after committing crimes?

Which party supported every military action under Clinton while opposing every military action under Bush.

The Democrat left and their idiot socialist supporters are so rampant with hypocrisy, it could fill the airtime for Saturday Night Live skits for the next 100 years. Oh that’s right, Hollywood only mocks conservatives, not the left. Yet more liberal hypocrisy.

Michael Savage was brilliant to coin the phrase, “Liberalism is a mental disorder.” He is dead right.


47 posted on 01/17/2009 10:59:07 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: drellberg
To husband his scarce political capital for this effort, he ended up punting on some issues that are dear to conservatives, and that I believe he would like to have tackled. But in doing so he did the right thing, and if others in the GOP had not been so stupid, and if our leading think tanks and pundits and other GOP luminaries had been more disciplined and on the offensive, Bush would have had a good deal more political capital to wield.

Well said!

51 posted on 01/17/2009 1:07:31 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: drellberg
Personally, I believe Bush is a good man who made good decisions and bad based on his beliefs and the information he had at the time.

However, it's over now; let it go. You will have plenty of opportunities to come to Bush's defense in the coming years when all of Obama's trials and tribulations as well as his mistakes and failures will be blamed on Bush.

How to beat Obama and who can the conservatives and republicans field for office are the battles to be fought, not Bush's legacy. His legacy is not for us to decide.

56 posted on 01/17/2009 6:58:40 PM PST by GBA
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