Posted on 01/20/2009 8:06:11 PM PST by sickoflibs
Everybody is getting excited about the inauguration, where they think Barack Obama is going to ride in and save the day, and nothing could be further from the truth. A lot of people have such high hopes and such high expectations that hes (Obama) is going to bring the change we need. Unfortunately nothing is going to change, change is less government, change would be sound money, change would be more freedom, were not going to get any of that, we are just going to get bigger government under Barack than we did under Bush. Thats not change at all but its more of the same, only worse. I think we are on the verge of some very significant problems coming up and its unfortunate that so few people can see this. And I think what Barack is doing is setting to blame the problems on Bush, on capitalism, on freedom, much like Roosevelt was able to do. Roosevelt was able to blame the depression which lasted his entire presidency on Hoover. And think about it, the worst of the depression was 1936, three years into the Roosevelt administration. And yet hes blaming everything on Hoover. And the revisionist history was that the left and the statists were able to blame the whole depression on Herbert Hoover, and the fact that he did nothing, and the fact that he believed in the free market, is absolutely amazing; when Herbert Hoover was very much a George Bush. Like I said before, he(Hoover) was the most activist interventionist president up until his term. He tried everything under the sun to prop up businesses, to bail people out, he had his own versions of the bailouts and the stimuluss plans and the tarp, he did everything he could, and everything he did contributed to the problem, just like everything Bush has done has contributed to the problems. And now Barack is going to come in and repeat all the mistakes of Roosevelt, and make the situation worse and hes going to be able to blame the fact that its so bad it is on how bad it was under Bush, the deregulation of the greedy era. Im hopeful the public wont actually buy into this non-sense, but thats the stage hes trying to set. Full video at :Peter Schiff Videos:"There will be no change with Barack Obama"
Do we have any Republican politicans who are willing to trash Obama,the way Peter Schiff does it?
Peter gives a nice GWB to Obama/Hoover to Roosevelt analogy(GWB worst nightmare) . Obama is more of the same but even worse.
more government, bigger deficits, more foreign meddling and less concern over the border than Bush. Not the change we’ve been waiting for.
Ron Paul?
It made me feel much better. Thank you whoever did it. I might end up a graffiti fan afterall! LOL
4later
bump for later—it’s late here
One of the things about Schiff is he seems credible because he spares neither party (which is why Cavuto on FNC business is my favorite more-so than talk radio.)
The answer to your question is , I see no one in R party as articulate as Schiff. He really puts the Washington establishment to shame. In fact 16 years ago the republican revolution WAS new anti-establisment, and democrats were establishment. Now our party is pathetic, big government, wall street, big guy. Why do you think a loser like Obama gave (false)hope to the country? Stale useless republicans
***And I think what Barack is doing is setting to blame the problems on Bush, on capitalism, on freedom, much like Roosevelt was able to do.***
This indeed is one of my biggest concerns. Obama is doing a brilliant job of setting himself up to be the savior. He continuously says things will get worse (and they will), before they get better, but that it is necessary for the government to come in and help “stabilize” and reverse the “downward spiral”.
If things don’t improve, he can always say, “Think of how bad it would have been if we hadn’t done anything,” and knowing his popularity, the free market may end up taking another hard blow. Government creates problems and then offers to “fix” them with even worse solutions, yet people are by and large economically ignorant and so he will likely get away with this.
It should be an interesting 4 years to say the least.
Woah, he’s just a kook! /s
ping
Which is why I do not understand why the Republicans top down took the ‘bailout’ bait and voted for it. They would be far more credible to have stood up and said NO. They knowingly or unknowingly made themselves the go to forever, liberal scapegoats. WHYYYY?
We will know by the next congressional election whether or not the Republican party can "right" itself (pun intended)....
In an earlier video, he was gushing about 0Zero and saying how he voted for him. So, what's up? Has he got cold feet now that the chickens are coming home to roost??
**(”Obama will be more of the same, but worse”)**
I agree!
Because it was the Rep party leader, GWB's plan and then the media beat the hell out of the House Republicans, and scared the daylights out of the public. And afterward they daily came up with bailout screw up stories to make Rs look bad after beating them to vote for it.
MY ORIGINAL WARNING POST :Why Republicans supporting democrats investor bailout bill is political suicide
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 11:15:58 AM by sickoflibs
You are dreaming. You can see all his videos in two channels at comment #1 and he never said he voted for BoB. He specifically said both McCain and Obama stink. He was for Ron Paul who looks pretty smart now .
I just saw your picture on another thread and several thought that it is time to start seeing “Wolverines” in various locations.
LOL
Things are going to get real nasty. I'm not listening to any lies from the ruling class.
Schiff didn’t vote for Ozero.
There is a .008% chance that Obama is as smart as everyone says he is and realizes that Socialism doesn’t work. Maybe he smarter than we give him credit for. What other hope do I have?
He’s.
I’m not as think as you dumb I am.
Dude! Excellent idea.
After talking to some Ron Paulians they said they would rather have O in there than McCain — O would get us to socialism faster - McCain would do it but slower - further ruining the republican party...
Schiff isn’t an obamanaught....the guy who posted that is a troll paid by axelrod inc.
actually the socialism is the least of our concerns...
as Biden said: Gird your loins.
I see it somewhat differently. The liberals necklaced President Bush with ENRON after his Treasury refused the demand by Rubin to bail ENRON out, assisted by the prostitutes of MSM of course.
It was that wicked itch of the West Hillary Clinton that dropped the number on what liberals had planned when she before election 2004, told her investor class of supporters Bush = a Hoover economy.
Now that image of 'compassionate' conservative got himself cornered into a economic corner every time the liberals wanted to nail another nail in his political coffin.
Two things I specifically remember President Bush digging his heels in about, taking the war to the terrorists in their own sand pits while removing that brutal torturing slaughtering of his own people Saddam. And NOT giving into the liberals demanding Homeland Security have union protection.
Oh and another thing I just now remember was that tax cut, the incompetent lord McCain voted against over some claim about cutting spending. But lord McCain not once lead a filibuster to keep one bill filled with his favorite campaign word of 2008, 'earmarks' from passing.
Ron Paul was alllllllll wrong on Iraq which is why I paid no attention to him.
Biden has given +/- $4.50 to charity.
He is very generous though with OTHER PEOPLE’S PROPERTY.
He’s down with OPP.
Typical lib.
Then you have the Gates and Buffets of the world. They set up CRT’s to sell their appreciated property with no cap gains and invest it in tax free bonds. Then their kids and cronies run the foundation and hold board meetings in Las Vegas.
Then they use the proceeds to purchase an ILIT to pay their estate taxes.
The unwashed masses of hard working Americans pay taxes while they have the moral high ground and pay nothing.
Oooops. I just let out the secret. I’m in big trouble. God help me.
Why shouldn't the public buy into it? Nobody is telling them different. Not even the Republicans.
I was ummm... talking about a major confrontation with China, the holder of most of our debt and quite a few nukes.
I guarantee there will be a full police investigation into this since it’s not the normal thug variety graffitti...
But lord McCain not once lead a filibuster to keep one bill filled with his favorite campaign word of 2008, ‘earmarks’ from passing.
that’s not true...he filibustered the medicare prescription drug benefit that Bush is still proud of, even today.
I must have slept though that big filibuster, how long was lord McCain on the Senate floor filibustering?
In a way, he IS like Jesus; didn't the Jews expect Him to save THEM? And, what happened to Jesus? The Jews turned on Jesus when He didn't accomplish what they wanted. I can see the same thing happening to Obama. Obama's supporters WILL turn on HIM in a heartbeat when they don't get what they want. Only, Obama won't "rise from the dead". He'll be thrown out on his ear - don't expect him back in 2012.
probably until the filibuster was killed by the rest of the Senate

I was off on a tangent. But since you brought it up....The great thing about free trade that is lost is that if we do business with these countries....Saudi Arabia, China....they have a vested interest in our economic well being.
They wouldn’t blow us up and jeopardize their investment.
Little known piece of useless information....we have never gone to war with a country that has a McDonalds franchise at the time of the war.

free trade is important but what really screws up the world is an unsound currency
its amazing about FDR....he had a depression his entire presidency and a WW and he’s basically blameless in any of it, per history.....
“Currency” is just another way of saying “something of value”.
But if you are saying that if our US Gubmint keeps printing trillions of dollars in currency we will be stuck with an oversupply and end up like Zimbabwe with 1,400% inflation, I can’t disagree.
I only disagree when somebody tries to convince me that Gold is worth more than 75 other things that are more valuable.
“Roosevelt was able to blame the depression which lasted his entire presidency on Hoover. And think about it, the worst of the depression was 1936, three years into the Roosevelt administration. And yet hes blaming everything on Hoover.”
It is amazing reading this quote and trying to understand how FDR kept getting re-elected despite a terrible economy. Obama got elected based on a recession and it isn’t anywhere near as bad as the depression. I guess the sheep exist in every generation. Did the republicans have such bad candidates?
when Schiff speaks, people listen
several representatives and senators have spoken out and told us they were under threat of martial law (arrest), and indeed, martial law in the House was called by Pelosi. According to Steven Quayle, America itself was 2.5minutes away from martial law if the bailout didn't pass. That was the point I ventured to say, we were in the middle of a coup, or as close to a coup as we could get without military participation. I still believe Bush was more or less under house arrest until today, which is why we didnt' see him making many public appearances unless he was on an outside the country visit. Even the presidential orders Bush signed in his last days, including the one signed the 16th calling for mandatory review of qualifications for those seeking higher offices, were the first things cancelled by Obama today, right after he cancelled the inprogress Gitmo trial of the murderer/beheader of David Pearl and of the 20th 9/11 hijacker.
If our Republicans were not fearful for their own safety, we could fully expect that at least one of them would have objected to these immediate mandates, especially the pandering whitehouse.gov issue page post today, that immaturely slams the previous administration over Katrina (as if Katrina was the only natural disaster handled by President Bush in the last 5 years), a decidedly partisan bias totally out of place on an official website of the US government. Instead, our Republicans are frightened little sheep, covering that fear to us, with talk about reaching 'across the aisle' , as they walk the halls of congress on eggshells themselves. as always, imo jmo moo
best regards, blu
Ron Paul is a joke.
While he is correct on the economy his outlook concerning defense is left-wing nut ball kook.
There is a huge difference between what the general public thinks of the invasion of Iraq and the Bush loyalists. It's like day and night. I originally believed and fully supported GWB in 2002-2003 but have since changed my mind on it. One factor that I think is critical is that if he was going to take on an adventure that huge, he needed a realistic plan to keeping the public on his side. And he needed to assume that if the invasion grew costly, took many lives (more than 100 ) and appeared indefinite (especially without his specific warnings of this before the vote), not to mention WMDs, that the media would go negative. It's not like that last part was a surprise. It's what the media does.
If invading Iraq was so important, so key to winning the WOT then why didn't GWB specifically call for tax increases to fund it starting with 2002 vote?? . That would have been leadership. It may have lost him 2004 election, but instead he slid by shoving the costs off on others and doomed his party for two elections (he was the democrat theme of the 2008 election.) . Why pass that cost on to future administrations and generations? Why expect another administration to raise taxes to pay off the Iraq debt? You give him credit for this invasion/victory but then what? You expect to sucessfully blame the next president to take the heat for funding it after the fact years later? And you think that will sell to voters? And if it doesn't the voters are all stupid and the MSM has them brainwashed?
I though exactly the same thing as late as August. The whole economy crash and bailout fiasco's have completely changed my opinion. I would rather have 10 Saddams than Obama and Pelosi and the massive economy takeovers Bush has started for them.
Are you kidding? How can speaker of house declare martial law? That was GWBs pitch.
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