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Give Obama A Pass on Oath Flub?
FreeRepublic Exclusive ^ | 1/20/2009 | DouglasKC

Posted on 01/20/2009 8:49:03 PM PST by DouglasKC

Give Obama A Pass on Oath Flub?

Have you heard?

Chief Justice Roberts mixed some words around in the Presidential oath that Presidents take upon assuming the office.

The oath should read as follows:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

It seems that Chief Justice Roberts put the word "faithfully" in the wrong place. It was then repeated incorrectly by Mr. Obama.

Should we give Mr. Obama a pass?

I don't think so. And I'll explain why.

Mr. Obama should have known the oath backwards and forwards. He is a constitutional scholar. He must have studied the oath. He surely was briefed on the correct wording.

If you watch the swearing in, it seems certain that Mr. Obama realizes that Chief Justice Roberts has stated the oath wrong. Yet.

Yet Mr. Obama repeats it back, wrong also.

What does this show? We have two possiblities.

The first is that Mr. Obama really didn't know the oath. He never memorized it. He didn't know that the words were mixed up. As stated previously this isn't really plausible. He knew it.

The second option is rather unsettling. Mr. Obama knew the oath. He knew it backward and forward. He knew the right and proper wording specified by the Constitution of the United States. Yet he repeated back the error.

No big deal?

Think about it. This was Mr. Obama's very first act as President. It was a relatively high pressure situation. Around the world there were millions of eyes focused on him. Expectations were high. Nerves, no doubt, were on edge. Yet, when faced with standing up for the right wording, he folded. He agreed with error.

Now maybe he did this to save Chief Justice Roberts from an embarrassing situation. Maybe he did it to prevent himself from appearing "wrong" to the public. Maybe he just wanted to put forth the appearance that everything went smoothly. But are these the attributes we want in a President?

We want the President to be a leader. We want him to stand up for what's right even when everybody else is wrong. We want him to make the decision in the most pressure packed situations. We want him to uphold the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic.

Yet at his very first opportunity he decided that getting along at the moment was more important than a constitutional requirement.

It's going to be a long four, or eight, years.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhoinauguration; flubbedoath; justiceroberts; oath; oathofoffice; obama; obamaoath; obamaswearingin; robertsflubbedoath; robertsflubsoath; swearingin
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It's that important.
1 posted on 01/20/2009 8:49:04 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

This is not a big deal. Roberts screwed it up first. If we expect presidents to know it by heart, then why do we need anyone to stand up there and say the words before he does? Why can’t the president just recite the oath on his own?


2 posted on 01/20/2009 8:51:13 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: DouglasKC

Get used to it.


3 posted on 01/20/2009 8:51:22 PM PST by steelyourfaith (It's high time for the B.O. Impeachment proceedings to begin.)
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To: DouglasKC; freekitty; Free ThinkerNY; TXRed

Liberal slugs and the mainstream gutless wonders trashed Bush from the minute he was elected. Their Liberal God deserves the same, IMO.


4 posted on 01/20/2009 8:52:06 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: DouglasKC

I think he should recite the proper oath during halftime at the Superbowl.


5 posted on 01/20/2009 8:52:13 PM PST by DBrow
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To: DouglasKC

NO. Nobody gets a free pass in politics.


6 posted on 01/20/2009 8:52:30 PM PST by o_zarkman44 (Since when is paying more, but getting less, considered Patriotic?)
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To: DouglasKC

Considering he is quite possibly not even Constitutionally elligible by birth, it’s a very small matter in comparison.

However, oath or not, he’s the President as of noon yesterday. Who was the Pres so drunk that he couldnt finish the oath thus ushering in that law?


7 posted on 01/20/2009 8:52:35 PM PST by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: DouglasKC

It’s a sign that his Presidency is flubbed from the beginning, and it was the first of four signs today.

Next was the seizure of Uncle Teddy followed by the collapse of the democrats own KKK member Byrd.

To round out the day was a dump in the DOW of 332 points.


8 posted on 01/20/2009 8:55:45 PM PST by diverteach (http://www.slapobama.com/)
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To: Tublecane
This is not a big deal. Roberts screwed it up first. If we expect presidents to know it by heart, then why do we need anyone to stand up there and say the words before he does? Why can’t the president just recite the oath on his own?

Of course it's a big deal. Obama knew it was wrong. Yet he repeated the error. He didn't show courage by saying the right oath. Roberts could have said anything and Obama SHOULD have said the right thing. If a President is expect to preserve and defend the Constitution he should KNOW what is in the Constitution.

9 posted on 01/20/2009 8:56:07 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: diverteach

the fumble is a sign, an omen that signify a one term president


10 posted on 01/20/2009 8:58:02 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: diverteach

y’all can probably find this somewhere in Nostradamus Quatrains

it is so totally weird tho, da’ MAN wasn’t prepared & HE
was the one HE was unflappable.

oh lordy


11 posted on 01/20/2009 8:58:55 PM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Scooters work good in Vermont snow & so do skis)
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To: DouglasKC

Obama deserves the same kind of respect his Drones gave the last president. No. No pass.


12 posted on 01/20/2009 9:00:20 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: rjp2005
However, oath or not, he’s the President as of noon yesterday.

The president-elect becomes President at noon, but until the oath is taken, he cannot execute the office:

Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation: — "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

13 posted on 01/20/2009 9:00:45 PM PST by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA or lose reelection)
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To: DouglasKC

“If a President is expect to preserve and defend the Constitution he should KNOW what is in the Constitution.”

So should the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, especially since we have informally deemed the judiciary the final authority on the Constitution.

here’s the thing. It’s just a ceremony. Plenty of people who’ve recited the oath perfectly have gone on to violate various passages of, if not the spirit of, the Constitution. The reverse is probably also true.


14 posted on 01/20/2009 9:01:05 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: diverteach

I heard about Kennedy. What happened with Byrd?


15 posted on 01/20/2009 9:01:12 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: DouglasKC

I think its a small thing...but telling. It seems no coordination was done prior, much less an actual rehearsal. Obama’s in charge - its his responsibility to make things go ‘right’.


16 posted on 01/20/2009 9:01:21 PM PST by lacrew (Where's Blago?)
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To: DouglasKC

How about the Rev Lowery thing?


17 posted on 01/20/2009 9:01:28 PM PST by GeronL (DAY 1, YEAR 0 - The first day of the Oministration. The nightmare begins.)
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To: DouglasKC

Look, we don’t know how well he did in school, so no wonder he screws everything up. No documents. No nuthin’. He is a FREAK.


18 posted on 01/20/2009 9:01:44 PM PST by bergmeid (2012 - someone please fast forward.)
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To: DouglasKC
Fox's Chris Wallace asks: Is Obama even president? (screwed up oath!)
19 posted on 01/20/2009 9:02:32 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: DouglasKC

I think you underestimate the power of nerves when standing in front of millions of people. Forget an oath, you can forget your own NAME when those nerves hit home. It is horribly, horribly embarrassing, but I do not consider this a concern about the Obama presidency. Let’s wait until we have good reason. It won’t be long.


20 posted on 01/20/2009 9:02:54 PM PST by DaveLoneRanger (Gun-free zones aren't. Visit ConcealedCampus.com for more)
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To: rjp2005
However, oath or not, he’s the President as of noon yesterday. Who was the Pres so drunk that he couldnt finish the oath thus ushering in that law?

I have no idea. It was also kind of weird that the oath wasn't done until after noon. If I remember correctly isn't the oath usually done just before noon so that you have pledged before you actually become President?

21 posted on 01/20/2009 9:03:01 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

Its sort of related to what would happen after noon on the 20th if we were Pearl Harbored but the ceremony was behind schedule and the new President had not be sworn in - who is President, do we even have a President.

ABC (yeah I know, not my favorite source either) said the consensus among legal scholars was that the new President takes office at noon, oath or no oath.

That’s better than the other choice that if the new VP has been sworn - he would be acting President until the new President completed the ceremony.


22 posted on 01/20/2009 9:03:01 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: o_zarkman44

Exactly: he’ll get all the free passes W got.


23 posted on 01/20/2009 9:03:39 PM PST by txhurl (Welcome home, W.)
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To: Salvation

I expect his inner Kleagle arced out...


24 posted on 01/20/2009 9:04:07 PM PST by an amused spectator (Citizen Kenyan: The man who created The Sock-Puppet Constitution.)
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To: DouglasKC
Obama made the first mistake.

Obama interrupted Chief Justice Roberts FIRST!!!

Obama made the first mistake. He was giggling before the swearing in like a clown. Then he interrupted Roberts which lead to Roberts being thrown.

He was giggling before he started. The whole ceremony was a joke to Clown Hussein. He was laughing when the swearing in first started and then HE INTERRUPTED the Chief Justice.

25 posted on 01/20/2009 9:04:16 PM PST by chrt30
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To: GeronL

Lowery screwed up too... My grandma taught me that it goes like this: “If it’s yellow let it mellow, if it’s brown flush it down.”


26 posted on 01/20/2009 9:05:22 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
I think you underestimate the power of nerves when standing in front of millions of people. Forget an oath, you can forget your own NAME when those nerves hit home. It is horribly, horribly embarrassing, but I do not consider this a concern about the Obama presidency. Let’s wait until we have good reason. It won’t be long.

That's my point. He let the situation get to him. He's been in the public eye for years. He's been before huge crowds. Yet when the opportunity to do the right thing presented itself, he punted. If he can't do or say the right thing in this innocuous situation then what is he going to do when there's something really on the line?

27 posted on 01/20/2009 9:06:04 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: BigSkyFreeper

lol


28 posted on 01/20/2009 9:06:34 PM PST by GeronL (DAY 1, YEAR 0 - The first day of the Oministration. The nightmare begins.)
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To: chrt30

Yep, threw Roberts off his game, RIGHT ON THE FIRST LINE!


29 posted on 01/20/2009 9:06:38 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: DouglasKC

Oh, and I’d like to say something to anyone who might criticize my dipiction of it as “just a ceremony” by saying it’s part of the Constitution and if we ignore one part of the Constitution it endangers all the other parts, and so on. The Constitution does not say that the president has to be sworn in by the Chief Justice on the steps of the Capitol building (or wherever) in front of millions of people. All it says is that he has to take the oath.

To my mind, that means he could say it to himself as he’s drifting off to sleep. But no, these politicians have to makie a big display of everything, and we all have to pause in the middle of our lives to listen to them say a sentence.


30 posted on 01/20/2009 9:06:41 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: DouglasKC
It's going to be a long four, or eight, years.

Especially if we hyper-focus on things like this. Our nation is under attack and the best we can do is complain about the way the President took the oath. Flame me if you will but I see this as absurdly trivial.

31 posted on 01/20/2009 9:07:17 PM PST by newheart (Obama. We kind of underestimated the creepiness.)
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To: DouglasKC

flubbed the oath of office... and that just the start.. rofl


32 posted on 01/20/2009 9:07:43 PM PST by Ancient Drive (will)
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To: DouglasKC
They told us he was a brilliant constitutional professor, he was cool, and a great orator.

Yet he could not save his oath...made a fool of himself.

It was an EPIC FAIL.

And I am laughing my arse off, and will mock him to everyone I meet from this day forward.

33 posted on 01/20/2009 9:07:58 PM PST by roses of sharon (Pray Hussein fails!)
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To: DouglasKC

Would Bush have been given a pass?

Yeah, we know the answer to that.


34 posted on 01/20/2009 9:08:23 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares (Refusing to kneel before the socialist messiah. 1-20-13 Freedom Day.)
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To: DouglasKC
It was also kind of weird that the oath wasn't done until after noon. If I remember correctly isn't the oath usually done just before noon so that you have pledged before you actually become President?

My recollection of the color commentary from 1988 was that the media proclaimed Dan Quayle to be the Acting President for a few minutes before Bush 41 took the oath.

Today the media made it a point that the oath was essentially irrelevant or ceremonial.

35 posted on 01/20/2009 9:08:28 PM PST by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA or lose reelection)
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To: Tublecane
here’s the thing. It’s just a ceremony. Plenty of people who’ve recited the oath perfectly have gone on to violate various passages of, if not the spirit of, the Constitution. The reverse is probably also true.

Well again here's the point. He knew what was right. But in a pressure situation he went along with error to get out of the situation. It's telling.

36 posted on 01/20/2009 9:09:01 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

I just reviewed the video...Justice Roberts put “faithfully” at the end of the sentence first. That was what seemed to give Obama pause; perhaps this proves the opposite, that he knew the oath well enough to recognize it being given in error.


37 posted on 01/20/2009 9:09:27 PM PST by DaveLoneRanger (Gun-free zones aren't. Visit ConcealedCampus.com for more)
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To: DouglasKC
Marxist Obama went back on his firm word on federal campaign financing, then lied about why, then blamed Republicans.

His word means absolutely nothing.

Nothing.

The man has no self-respect.

None.

.

38 posted on 01/20/2009 9:10:19 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: DouglasKC

I think Hoover simply stated “I do” when he was sworn in 80 years ago.


39 posted on 01/20/2009 9:10:28 PM PST by RPTMS
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To: DaveLoneRanger
I think you underestimate the power of nerves when standing in front of millions of people. Forget an oath, you can forget your own NAME when those nerves hit home. It is horribly, horribly embarrassing, but I do not consider this a concern about the Obama presidency. Let’s wait until we have good reason. It won’t be long.

I agree. Attacking someone for typical human errors makes us look small and petty. We do not need an Olbermann branch of conservatism.

40 posted on 01/20/2009 9:10:34 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: DouglasKC

My country, ‘tis of thee,

Sweet land of liberty,
hey I know th first vers of this old tune
Of thee I sing;
Land where my fathers died,
Land of the pilgrims’ pride,
From every mountainside
Let freedom ring!

And I also know The pledge of aligence, you know to the flag and et al.
YUP! The fact that our newly elected leader mispoke or did somting “goofy” with his inaguration will mean nothing to the obababites, I’m stuck with the Con myself, if I could offer Obama help in this matter, I’d honestly say go far away, Far Far Away, like where you came from and when you get there STFU.


41 posted on 01/20/2009 9:10:41 PM PST by ChetNavVet (Build It, and they won't come!)
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To: DouglasKC

It’s not a big deal, but there is some schadenfreude involved in teasing libs about it, and in knowing that his big moment was botched.


42 posted on 01/20/2009 9:11:12 PM PST by Canedawg ("When white will embrace what is right."..this is the hope and change "they" want.)
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To: DouglasKC
Who was the Pres so drunk that he couldnt finish the oath thus ushering in that law?

Probably Grant. He was rather well known as a sot.

43 posted on 01/20/2009 9:11:14 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: DouglasKC
> It's that important.

If you really believe that, then you'd better go back and demote the memory of some other Presidents who REALLY screwed it up. Look up Herbert Hoover, for example, who substituted entirely different words. The oath as prescribed in the Constitution is of course important, but I don't think repeating the mis-ordering of the words is a big deal.

Obama clearly knew the proper form -- I bet he practiced it a hundred times. So when Roberts bungled it, they both got thrown off.

So what? They got past that, completed the oath, and Obama's now the President.

Get over it. There's much more important stuff coming soon.

44 posted on 01/20/2009 9:11:26 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: newheart
Especially if we hyper-focus on things like this. Our nation is under attack and the best we can do is complain about the way the President took the oath. Flame me if you will but I see this as absurdly trivial.

I don't see it as trivial at all. I see it as indicative of his character. He would rather be agreeable than do what's right. Under pressure, he would rather do what makes him or those around him look good rather than the right thing.

45 posted on 01/20/2009 9:11:55 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: newheart
The problem isn't that he screwed up the oath, which is required by the Constitution.

The problem is that he doesn't care. It would take all of fifteen seconds to rectify the matter. He who is faithless in little things is faithless in great things.

46 posted on 01/20/2009 9:12:02 PM PST by cmj328 (Filibuster FOCA or lose reelection)
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To: DouglasKC

It sounded to me like Obama knew Roberts said it wrong and paused to give Roberts a chance to correct himself. After an awkward moment he decided just to go with “repeat after me”.

Trivial.


47 posted on 01/20/2009 9:13:13 PM PST by Hugin (GSA! (Goodbye sweet America))
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To: DouglasKC
Obama knew the oath, don't even think he Didn't.

The judge was nervous, and Obama was looking for a correction.

Mountain, Mole-hill.

We have bigger fish to fry.

48 posted on 01/20/2009 9:13:13 PM PST by MaxMax (I'll welcome death when God calls me. Until then, the fight is on)
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To: DouglasKC; All

Gentlemen, Ladies. Let’s all calm down here.
He did not screw up the OATH.

According to the Honorable Feinstein, Chief Justice Roberts was to have President Obama repeat the “Oaff of Office”.

Which after Ms. Feinstein’s remarks I believe went lock, step, and barrel down the path it was meant to go.


50 posted on 01/20/2009 9:13:48 PM PST by uptoolate (Shhh. If you listen real hard, God is speaking to America.)
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