Posted on 01/24/2009 10:24:29 PM PST by BillyBoy
Press Release
For Immediate Release
Friday, January 23, 2009
Barr hails Obama orders on Guantanamo, torture, tribunals
Says steps start process to restore rule of law in America
Former Republican Congressman and Libertarian Presidential Candidate, Bob Barr, today issued a statement praising executive orders signed yesterday by President Obama ordering the closure of the military detention center at Guantanamo, restoring the practice of treating detainees according to legal norms, firmly stopping the practice of waterboarding and other "enhanced interrogation techniques," and doing away with the military tribunals that denied fundamental due process to detainees since their creation shortly after 911.
Barr, long a critic of steps taken by the former administration of George W. Bush to undermine civil liberties guaranteed in the Bill of Rights by, among other things, conducting electronic surveillance of U.S. citizens in their own country without court order and without any evidence of wrongdoing, said he "hopes these steps taken by the new president will be followed by further actions reestablishing the rule of law and respect for our Constitution that has been dramatically and unnecessarily eroded over the past seven years of the preceding administration." For example, Barr said, "I hope President Obama will seek legislation curtailing the dramatic expansion of federal wiretapping power signed into law last July when former President Bush signed legislation expanding the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) that now makes every international phone call or e-mail by or to any person in the United States subject to warrantless surveillance."
Barr also noted that arguments by supporters of these controversial powers that closing the prison at Guantanamo will increase dangers to America are unfounded, insofar as "any detainees against whom the government has evidence of terrorist acts, can try them or detain them in maximum security prisons, in military brigs, or in US military facilities overseas if necessary." Moreover, Barr said, "the government has more than sufficient intelligence, military and law enforcement tools that are consistent with constitutional guarantees in the Bill of Rights, to provide robust and essential security for our country."
Barr, a former Member of Congress (1995-2003), also served previously as a US Attorney and with the Central Intelligence Agency. He was the Libertarian nominee for President in 2008.
For further information please contact Andy MacPherson at 770-836-1776 or andy@bobbarr.org.
To those conservatives who voted for Boob Barf to "send a message" to the GOP, how's that "message" working out for you?
Yes, I second your post. Barr is an idiot and thus so are his supporters.
I wouldn’t have voted for this guy since he was basically a McCain clone, but they have no differences on Gitmo. The conservative voter had no choice in this election.
Once Bob Barr did an interview on Air America, I lost all remaining respect for him.
He was a nebbishy dolt when he was a RINO, he’s a nebbishy dolt and completely irrelevent now.
Great post.
Am glad to see others who have a clue about the friends of
the Far Left, the anti war Bob Barr, Chuck Baldwin and L Ron Paul.
They are also 9/11 Truthers and anti Israel.
The Libertarians on FR show their support to Obama by not
condemning him and his agenda but continued threads on
bashing Republicans, and their legalize drug threads.
FR has a core group of pro American Conservative Republicans and the remainder are lemmings for Obama’s
anti war agenda under the name of Libertarians.
This makes me so damn mad .. “... military tribunals that denied fundamental due process to detainees ...” WHY IN HELL ARE WE SO WORRIED ABOUT KILLERS WHO “DENIED FUNDAMENTAL DUE PROCESS” TO 3000 AMERICANS.
Everytime I hear that statement I could just scream!
anyone who thinks bringing these muzzies to America is the answer, has their head so far up their ass they will never see the light of day...
I get tired of cleaning up the f’ng messes of politicians who are dumb as dirt! We've got half the population dependent on the government for their livelihood, Americans buying oil & merchandise from our enemies and we're inundated with illegals & muzzies who would just as soon see anyone in this country who isn't a muzzie d...e...a...d!
People better wake up & smell the coffee & start replacing these clowns in D.C. who are only interested in getting rich off their office & staying in office or we are gonna have one hell-of-a-mess to clean up that’ll make the civil war, WWI, WWII, Korea & Viet Nam combined looked like a picnic.
Well, that's my Sunday sermon.
Nytol
Bob Barr has become a disgusting shell of what he once was.
That is my biggest gripe with libertarians. While I could go along with their free market ideas I can not stomach their childish focus on drug legalization and obsession with conspiracy. There is one thing to not trust the government, it is another to trust idiots in place of the the government and believe fanciful Utopian ideas about crime and illegal drugs.
Ron Paul
When asked where he stands on Guantanamo in June 2007, Rep. Paul (R-TX) replied, “Shut it down”
another Libertarian loon and supporter of Chuck Baldwin
I’d like to see what the counter-proposal is. Nevermind the killers who are currently in Gitmo: Obama is going to set them free anyway.
I mean the new ones. OK, so you have your army fighting in Afghanistan/Iraq/Iran/Syria &tc — wherever. It doesn’t matter where. You come across a bunch of enemies who were shooting guns at your soldiers. They are not in uniform, and all of them are playing dumb.
What does the Army do with them? Let them go? (that would be efficient, because Obama is going to do that anyway) Shoot them dead and take no prisoners? (that would be efficient from an administrative point-of-view, but isn’t the best way to gather Intelligence) or what? Take them prisoner to...where? Do what with them? Make them talk how? (ask them nicely, no doubt: they apparently have Rights!)
So what is Obama’s proposal? What does Barr think should happen? (crickets)
Pinging some of the freepers who promoted Barr’s candidacy on FR (a few of which were smart enough to abandon the “Barr is a conservative” claims later on). Thought you might want to comment on him now.
Barr’s fan club on FR claimed among other things, that 1) Barr was a man of honor and integrity who was running on consistent principles, 2) the real deal for the GOP base with his past support for FR and a solid “98% conservative” ACU rating (basing this on his congressional voting record from a decade ago, which has long since renounced...oh well), 3) a viable protest vote who would “force the GOP to the right” and “send a message” for conservative values.
Anyone who talked up Barr’s credentials on FR during the presidential campaign still feel that way? Inquiring minds want to know.
Just for the record, here’s some threads about the actions of “true conservative” Barr since joining the ACLU and the LP, and then running for President:
Barr Endorses Obama Proposal
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2164778/posts
Bob Barr Predicts Obama Win in Georgia
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2115894/posts
Bob Barr postpones his defense of alleged child molester
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2079315/posts
Barr Attacks Palin’s Qualifications
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2073884/posts
Barr Slams Blagojevich Impeachment Resolution
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2164772/posts
Bob Barr: No defending the Defense of Marriage Act
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2159174/posts
Bob Barr Calls on GOP to Oppose ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2027289/posts
Barr says Bush is worse than Bill Clinton
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2050011/posts
Barr Backs Gore on Global Warming
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2048766/posts
Bob Barr praises Gore’s work on climate change
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2047231/posts
Emphasize Diplomacy with Iran, Says Bob Barr
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2028990/posts
Did Bob Barr swipe his immigration policy from Barack Obama?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2000227/posts
Your post is quite correct.
Conservative, Liberal and Libertarian are miles apart on key issues.
Liberals and Libertarians are far more alike as far as
anti war, they claim America brought on 9/11 and or America was behind it.
They believe in legalize drugs, and the list goes on.
Interesting how FR allows both conservatives and Libertarians when Libertarians are far closer to Liberals.
Glad to be a Conservative Republican
On that Maelstorm, I whole-heartedily agree you.
The freepers who spent the Nov. 2008 election talking up Barr's ACU rating refuse to acknowledge that today's Barr bears almost no resemblance to the one who served in Congress. If the current Bob Barr and his "values" got in a time machine and went back a decade ago, he'd probably offer to serve on Clinton's defense team instead of prosecuting him, and heap praise on Clinton's pardons for terrorists.
Some have said we should respect Bob Barr since he was once an active supporter of FR. Why? Barr has gleefully worked to undo everything he once fought for, stuck his finger in the eye of new conservative leaders like Sarah Palin, and threw his base (the ones who spent countless hours to help him get re-elected to Congress in the first place) under the bus (yet some useful idiots on FR continued to support his candidacy anyway). I didn't change my views, Barr changed his.
I hope some FReepers who can get access to Barr let him know PERSONALLY just how despised he has become by the the people who were once his most loyal supporters. He has only himself to blame. Every since his lost to John Linder he's declared war on conservative Republicans. BobJ mentioned he used to spend hours talking to Barr in his office, AmericanGirlRising mentioned she lives in his Congressional district and knows Barr's neighbors... Barr needs to understand he has flushed his entire legacy down the toilet. 10 years ago I would have funded efforts to have a memorial erected to his guy. Now I will never support him ever again and I will personally donate to any Republican who Barr runs against in the future. And all of that is squarely because of Barr's actions to carry the water for Obama and make himself the enemy of conservatives.
I don't buy that Barr's votes came just from die-hard card-carrying Libertarian Party members. Barr ran a terribly inept campaign and still got 200,000 MORE votes than the lifelong Libertarian presidential nominee got in 2004. Barr is working hard to turn conservatives against the GOP and in favor of Obama.
So again, Let's face the facts: Bob Barr has declared war on conservativism and helped deliver the state of North Carolina to a marxist for the first time since 1964. I'd say it's time we start firing back at Barr and his phony "conservative" followers.
On that Maelstorm, I whole-heartedily agree you.
The freepers who spent the Nov. 2008 election talking up Barr's ACU rating refuse to acknowledge that today's Barr bears almost no resemblance to the one who served in Congress. If the current Bob Barr and his "values" got in a time machine and went back a decade ago, he'd probably offer to serve on Clinton's defense team instead of prosecuting him, and heap praise on Clinton's pardons for terrorists.
Some have said we should respect Bob Barr since he was once an active supporter of FR. Why? Barr has gleefully worked to undo everything he once fought for, stuck his finger in the eye of new conservative leaders like Sarah Palin, and threw his base (the ones who spent countless hours to help him get re-elected to Congress in the first place) under the bus (yet some useful idiots on FR continued to support his candidacy anyway). I didn't change my views, Barr changed his.
I hope some FReepers who can get access to Barr let him know PERSONALLY just how despised he has become by the the people who were once his most loyal supporters. He has only himself to blame. Every since his lost to John Linder he's declared war on conservative Republicans. BobJ mentioned he used to spend hours talking to Barr in his office, AmericanGirlRising mentioned she lives in his Congressional district and knows Barr's neighbors... Barr needs to understand he has flushed his entire legacy down the toilet. 10 years ago I would have funded efforts to have a memorial erected to his guy. Now I will never support him ever again and I will personally donate to any Republican who Barr runs against in the future. And all of that is squarely because of Barr's actions to carry the water for Obama and make himself the enemy of conservatives.
I don't buy that Barr's votes came just from die-hard card-carrying Libertarian Party members. Barr ran a terribly inept campaign and still got 200,000 MORE votes than the lifelong Libertarian presidential nominee got in 2004. Barr is working hard to turn conservatives against the GOP and in favor of Obama.
So again, Let's face the facts: Bob Barr has declared war on conservativism and helped deliver the state of North Carolina to a marxist for the first time since 1964. I'd say it's time we start firing back at Barr and his phony "conservative" followers.
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