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Unemployed Immigrants Move into Caves (violins and hankies please alert)
New America Media ^ | 1-24-2009 | El Diario La Prensa

Posted on 01/25/2009 8:02:25 AM PST by stan_sipple

PLAINFIELD, N.J. –- Dozens of unemployed Central American immigrants who lost their jobs and can't afford to pay rent have moved into caves, reports El Diario/La Prensa. Immigrants have been living in the makeshift homes in Plainfield and North Plainfeld, N.J. for three months, and call their new residence the “Devil’s Cave.” Their decision to move into caves is a testament to the harsh climate of the current economic crisis, which has had a greater impact on the undocumented who have more difficulty accessing government aid after losing their jobs.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: aliens; crymeariver; gohome; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; unemployment
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1 posted on 01/25/2009 8:02:25 AM PST by stan_sipple
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To: stan_sipple

“difficult” to get government aid, but not “impossible.” Our job is not done until the latter rules.


2 posted on 01/25/2009 8:03:32 AM PST by stan_sipple
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To: stan_sipple

Good. Now move some bears in with them.


3 posted on 01/25/2009 8:03:39 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (This fiasco brought to you by the failed Obama administration.)
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To: stan_sipple
So living in caves in 'Jersey is better than returning home.

What a great country we have!

4 posted on 01/25/2009 8:04:40 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED)
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To: stan_sipple

Free Bus Tickets to Mexico.


5 posted on 01/25/2009 8:05:45 AM PST by screaminsunshine (.)
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To: stan_sipple

Um... Where are the caves of Plainfield? I’ve lived in NJ all my life and was unaware of an extensive cave system in NJ. Perhaps Plainfield should change its name to West Tora Bora.


6 posted on 01/25/2009 8:06:19 AM PST by mkmensinger
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To: screaminsunshine

how about a ticket for Obama’s illegal immigrant auntie?


7 posted on 01/25/2009 8:06:42 AM PST by stan_sipple
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To: stan_sipple

If this is true and the government knows it, why don’t they go in, round them up and send them back across the border?


8 posted on 01/25/2009 8:06:44 AM PST by RC2
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To: mkmensinger

caves would come in handy for the Sopranos


9 posted on 01/25/2009 8:08:10 AM PST by stan_sipple
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To: stan_sipple
Simple fix, go home!!!
10 posted on 01/25/2009 8:09:33 AM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: stan_sipple
“difficult” to get government aid, but not “impossible.”

Considering the fact that many Americans are finding it difficult to get unemployment benefits it should be impossible for illegals to get anything.
11 posted on 01/25/2009 8:09:37 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: stan_sipple
GO HOME! Photobucket
12 posted on 01/25/2009 8:10:01 AM PST by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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To: mkmensinger

Um... Where are the caves of Plainfield?

&&
I was wondering about that, as well. Thanks, I was getting ready to do a search to confirm my suspicions.


13 posted on 01/25/2009 8:12:30 AM PST by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012!)
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To: mkmensinger
Um... Where are the caves of Plainfield? I’ve lived in NJ all my life and was unaware of an extensive cave system in NJ. Perhaps Plainfield should change its name to West Tora Bora.

I grew up in Scotch Plains, a town that borders Plainfield to the East. There are no caves in the area, or I would have found them as a kid! :0)

Plainfield, by the way, was once a beautiful city! Full of Victorian mansions. The city was destroyed by riots in the '60s. Not sure if it has ever recovered...

14 posted on 01/25/2009 8:13:13 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Barack Obama: The Bernie Madoff of Politics)
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To: stan_sipple

Or a private cave at least. Then he will truly have bats in his belfrey.


15 posted on 01/25/2009 8:13:33 AM PST by screaminsunshine (.)
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To: ladyvet

but we will need all those illegal immigrants for the make-work jobs Robert Reich will create for them


16 posted on 01/25/2009 8:13:43 AM PST by stan_sipple
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To: Cowboy Bob

I’m in South Jersey, but I sure don’t recall any caves.


17 posted on 01/25/2009 8:15:38 AM PST by mkmensinger
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To: stan_sipple

“but we will need all those illegal immigrants for the make-work jobs Robert Reich will create for them”

Yep! Obama’s plan will create 4 million jobs he says....but he wants to amnesty 20 million and create a new ‘guest worker’ program (on top of the ones we have!) for several million more.

We have got to be the dumbest people on earth.


18 posted on 01/25/2009 8:16:38 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: stan_sipple

“caves would come in handy for the Sopranos”

Nah. They can dump in the ocean, or their preferred spot, the Pine Barrens. :^)


19 posted on 01/25/2009 8:18:30 AM PST by mkmensinger
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To: stan_sipple

Is it legal to live in caves?


20 posted on 01/25/2009 8:18:44 AM PST by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: ├čudda├čudd

“Is it legal to live in caves?”

Only if you work for Geico.


21 posted on 01/25/2009 8:20:18 AM PST by mkmensinger
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To: ├čudda├čudd

“Is it legal to live in caves?”

It’s illegal for them to be in the country let alone a cave.
But when laws aren’t enforced, it doesn’t matter, does it?


22 posted on 01/25/2009 8:20:28 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: stan_sipple

Not being familiar with New Jersey I wouldn’t know about caves, but somehow it sounds a little odd. Are they sure those aren’t storm drains or sewer tunnels? Has it rained much up there this year?


23 posted on 01/25/2009 8:23:16 AM PST by Taichi (Certe, toto, sentio nos in kansate non iam adesse)
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To: stan_sipple
Unemployed Criminal Aliens Move into Caves

Fixed it.

24 posted on 01/25/2009 8:24:00 AM PST by pabianice
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To: stan_sipple
Some of our founding fathers,who signed the Declaration of Independence, were later ruined and had to live in caves. At least they are in good company. That being said I'm sure there are plenty of caves in Mexico. Adios!
25 posted on 01/25/2009 8:24:45 AM PST by 4yearlurker (Independence! The Federal Constitution,may it never fail. (~Caleb Earle -1811.))
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To: stan_sipple
Cell phone reception is just terrible!

Cable TV is fuzzy.

26 posted on 01/25/2009 8:25:09 AM PST by JohnCliftn
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To: stan_sipple
which has had a greater impact on the undocumented who have more difficulty accessing government aid after losing their jobs.

Send them to San Farncisco, they have a new ID that will allow them to access gov't services. Better yet........ send them home.

27 posted on 01/25/2009 8:25:19 AM PST by umgud (I'm really happy I wasn't aborted)
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To: stan_sipple

I didn’t know there were caves available to move in to!

And I’m serious!


28 posted on 01/25/2009 8:27:40 AM PST by autumnraine
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To: stan_sipple; All
They probably intentionally wrongly identified these caves as existing in Plainfield and North Plainfield when they are most likely in the Paterson and North Paterson area. Some how it got lost in the translation.

I'm surprised that Bob Menendez hasn't gotten Eyewitness News up there with him to get these poor folks aid. He along with Interior Secretary Ken Salazar are trying to get the observation point in the torch of the Statue of Liberty reopened to the public and the terrorist. I can't believe that they could possibly be so concerned about that and over look these folks in the caves? After all Ken Salazar could get the land declared a national park and provide them with aid. Also, what did the illegals do to the poor Jersey black bears who are so numerous in the Summer. Did they kick the poor little bears and their cubs out into the cold snowy ground to dig boroughs and hibernate for the Winter?

Bad illegals...bad. Where is PETA when you need them?

29 posted on 01/25/2009 8:29:00 AM PST by cyberslave (The time has come to talk of many things.)
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To: Taichi

They’ve got to be tunnels or storm drains.


30 posted on 01/25/2009 8:33:05 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: stan_sipple

New Jersey Caves

31 posted on 01/25/2009 8:34:02 AM PST by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

??

32 posted on 01/25/2009 8:35:57 AM PST by ThomasThomas ( Never mind.........it may go both ways...)
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To: stan_sipple; Clemenza; Calpernia; Coleus
Caves???  There are no caves in Plainfield.

However, there are apparently crawl spaces under the 100 year old large homes.

What's sad is that these conditions are considered better than wherever they came from.

 

Here's a blog entry from what I can gather is a fat, transgender Latino in New York City: (Includes a photo)

Unemployed Immigrants Living in Caves

 

33 posted on 01/25/2009 8:37:46 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: stan_sipple

FIRE IN THE HOLE!


34 posted on 01/25/2009 8:40:03 AM PST by BobS
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To: stan_sipple
From vivirlatino:

For the last few months, a group of immigrants who lost their jobs and have been unable to find work due to the economic crisis, live on the margins, in improvised caves The anti-immigrant rhetoric as promoted by the mainstream media, would have many believe that immigrants, especially undocumented immigrants, are not only taking jobs but are also taking government benefits. It's easier to point fingers and scapegoat at people pushed into living outside our field of vision. The winter is especially hard for many undocumented workers, since so many day laborers work in construction and the cold weather slows down that industry.

The immigrants, like so many, were living not in apartments, and certainly not in state or federal complexes, but were renting rooms, as so many immigrants do when they arrive to the United States. When they couldn't afford the $300 a month, they moved to the caves, which they must crawl into.

Local community advocates say many of the men don't go to shelters because of the language barrier and because of fear of being reported as undocumented.

What I found really interesting about the El Diaro article was how some community advocates and government officials said that men "don't seek help" as if they would rather live in caves, when the story is more complex, especially when outing yourself as an undocumented immigrant can mean being killed.

I guess when it comes to life in a cave or death on the streets, living in a cave is a reasonable choice. Que triste.

Via / Remolacha, El Diario La Prensa

35 posted on 01/25/2009 8:40:06 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: stan_sipple
the undocumented who have more difficulty accessing government aid after losing their jobs.

They snuck into the country broke our laws and we are supposed to feel sorry they can't further drain our tax dollars?

No government aid for illegals.

36 posted on 01/25/2009 8:41:58 AM PST by A message
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To: stan_sipple

“which has had a greater impact on the undocumented who have more difficulty accessing government aid after losing their jobs.”

more difficulty???? They aren’t entitled to it. It shouldn’t be difficult it should be impossible.


37 posted on 01/25/2009 8:56:17 AM PST by yazoo
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38 posted on 01/25/2009 9:28:16 AM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself)
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There are lots of empty foreclosed homes available. The O team is ready to help them move in just as soon as they are granted amnesty, hired to all those new government projects, and pledge to vote all democrats forever. Prayer rugs will be given to them so they can bow toward DC and worship the messiah three times a day.


39 posted on 01/25/2009 9:32:26 AM PST by hdstmf
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To: 4yearlurker
That being said I'm sure there are plenty of caves in Mexico.

I don't know if there are caves in New Jersey or not, but if so, these people probably feel right at home. They probably lived in caves in Mexico before they came into our country illegally - and one cave is probably just as good as another to them. All they should get is a "Home Sweet Home" sign until they get sent back over the border!

40 posted on 01/25/2009 9:44:19 AM PST by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: stan_sipple

Before you believe this, check the source. This site claim they are “expanding the news lens through ethnic media”, whatever the heck than means.

My guess is this story is made of whole cloth and my bet is there is no one living in the nonexistent caves in Plainfield. But to liberals the lack of truth is not disqualifying. The story, any story, is valid just so long as it evokes the “proper” emotion and points the finger at the day’s template villain. And this story does just that.


41 posted on 01/25/2009 9:55:59 AM PST by mort56
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To: ThomasThomas

Maybe Barney Franks can make room for them in his basement???
What needs to be done with all illegals is put next door to all Comgress. Let them worry about themselves and there family ever time they go out door.....if they will be killed or murdered by illegals? Illegals have killed and murdered more than we have lots in War. Something else we are not being told.
If we sent all the CROOKS in Congress & those who work for in Congress (States & cities as well) to prison we would be left with only about 2%—of them.
We US Citizens need a BOSTON TEA PARTY of all elected officials in USA! NOW!


42 posted on 01/25/2009 10:03:03 AM PST by ducks1944 (GOD Bless the USA .)
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To: stan_sipple

They could go back to their own countries.


43 posted on 01/25/2009 10:26:23 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Incorrigible
Caves??? There are no caves in Plainfield. >>>

lol, i was thinking the same thing... there seems to be many abandoned factories, lofts, etc. why don't the state, municipal governments and social-service community organizations/community “obama” organizers do something about it? why haven't they done something all these years?

/“just words” no action

44 posted on 01/25/2009 11:06:29 AM PST by Coleus (Abortion and Euthanasia, don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
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45 posted on 01/25/2009 11:07:30 AM PST by Coleus (Abortion and Euthanasia, don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
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To: stan_sipple; All

Good read!

Professor’s research finds Hispanics don’t assimilate easily
http://www.gilroydispatch.com/news/252848-professors-research-finds-hispanics-dont-assimilate-easily

Some highlights from the report:

Hispanics in America

America’s largest minority group and fastest-growing ethnic group lags behind others in aspects of American life.

College enrollment

* Forty-five percent of young Hispanics were enrolled in college in 2006, compared with 49 percent of blacks and 61 percent of Anglos.

Teenage births

* Hispanics ages 15 to 19 had the highest birthrate of any group in 2005. There were nearly 105 such births per 1,000 for Hispanics, 61 for blacks and 26 for Anglos.

Becoming citizens

* In 2005, only 10 percent to 30 percent of eligible Mexican immigrants became U.S. citizens, compared with 50 to 65 percent of European immigrants and 65 to 70 percent of Asian immigrants. Mexican immigrant applications for citizenship jumped nearly 50 percent last year, partly because of Hispanic organizations’ push for citizenship and a rush of people trying to apply before higher fees took effect.

Civic involvement

* Less than a third of Hispanics volunteered for neighborhood or civic groups, compared with 38 percent of blacks and 40 percent of Anglos.


46 posted on 01/25/2009 11:41:10 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: stan_sipple
I find this somewhat alarming.

It we're not careful, we could see a proliferation of the sorts of shanty towns that are so ubiquitous to Latin America.

These shanty towns were created by poor people moving from the coutryside to the large cities looking for work. They had literally nothing, so they could not afford to even rent in the cheapest neighborhoods in the cities. Thus they constructed for themselves shanties on the outskirts, typically squatting on government land or private land whose owners were away.

If we're not careful, and don't enforce our immigration laws, the same thing could start happening here.

47 posted on 01/25/2009 6:26:02 PM PST by curiosity
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To: stan_sipple

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48 posted on 01/25/2009 6:45:07 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: RC2

Probably because, like with all other instances where ‘they know’, they know that without an effectively secured border, they will return tomorrow. [all other public roundups and deportations by ICE are merely dog and pony shows...that’s why the employers are never prosecuted.]

The bipartisan CFR’s agenda does not include an effectively secured border. It includes security of the perimeter of the continent [that’s why the border was not secured on 9/12 and that’s why our military was later sent, unarmed.]

If the intention is no border between countries, sending them south is a waste of time & money.


49 posted on 01/25/2009 9:44:15 PM PST by Kimberly GG (Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda been HUNTER.)
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To: stan_sipple

El Diario/La Prensa endorses Senator Barack Obama as the leader ready to redirect the United States of America towards its promise.

Senator Obama wisely opposed Bush’s misguided and immoral charge into Iraq. From Corona to Washington Heights, Latinos have suffered the devastating effects of this war. Senator Obama has pledged to bring the sons and daughters who are serving in Iraq back home by 2010.

Senator Obama has correctly identified that trickle-down economics are not addressing the inequities Americans face. As our economy continues to unravel, Latinos and African Americans are disproportionately affected by foreclosures. Senator Obama has proposed a 90-day moratorium on foreclosures so that some lenders and homeowners can renegotiate terms.

Other problems demand attention. Graduation rates in the United States lag behind that of most other wealthy nations. Senator Obama has committed to investing in schools and to making higher education more accessible.


50 posted on 01/25/2009 9:52:31 PM PST by kcvl
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