Posted on 01/27/2009 8:28:54 AM PST by AuntB
Re: Title — This is a news flash ???
“The answer was Mexico”
disingenuous reporting.
“some mexican nationals” does not equal “mexico”
““some mexican nationals” does not equal “mexico””
Thank goodness for that.
The danger from the South is mexicans.
The danger from the North is muzziecans.
“The danger from the South is mexicans.
The danger from the North is muzziecans.”
Nice theory, if it were only true.
Canadian smugglers are bringing in their aliens through Mexico these days.
Do you know what an OTM is? Other than Mexican.....coming over that border by the thousands.
“According to Nicaraguan federal police reports, Mexican police arrested 138 immigrants, among them a child of four years, traveling hidden in a truck in the state of Chiapas. The truck had no documentation and, for that reason was searched and the people discovered. The group of immigrants was made up of Albanians, Brazilians and Central Americans. According to Mexican immigration statistics, 40,050 undocumented immigrants were arrested in the state of Chiapas.”[snip]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2172663/posts
Since January,2008 more than 1,300 people have been killed in execution-style hits or gunned down in fire fights, which often rage for hours in broad daylight and turn residential neighbourhoods into war zones. If the trend continues, 2008 will top last year's toll of 2,500 deaths in drug-related killings.You don't hear so much about Americans at the Border. Too bad.
More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says The liberal LA Times is now reporting that Mexico's drug wars are now north of the borders--but soto voce. Think about it. A man or woman killed in Iraq or Iran in the line of duty is a hero. But what is an American killed at home by an illegal alien because the government has failed in its sworn duty to guard the borders. This is a pact between the sovereign and the person has paid taxes and loyalty. The answer is to that question is pretty awful. And it bodes ill for the republic.
But is it true?
Yes, according Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa.When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.
Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.
Wanted for Murder in New York City.
Chicago wanted for Murder
Philadelphia wanted for murder
San Francisco wanted for Murder
New Orleans wanted for Murder
Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC Alas, the Washington DC pictures have recently been taken down.
FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals) Around 40% of the FBI's wanted for murder are Mexican Nationals
There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. He said further that most of illegals in the federal prisons were in for drug related charges. Most of the illegals in jail for murder were in the state prisons. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.
Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans--but by no means all -- being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.
Why isn't there an outcry in the black community? Beats me.
Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs. One woman in San Francisco who had her family killed by an illegal is even demanding the city to drop its sanctuary city status. Illegals themselves have become the targets of kidnappers Mexican style in Arizona where drug money from south of the border is often parked.
Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.
To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.
That said, the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts. DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. Here is more info from Judicial Watch.
However the number of illegals on death row is far lower. Sadly, so many small towns and villages across America have sent their warriors off to war half way across the world only to see communities fill up with illegal aliens. The Center For Immigration Studies has provided a detailed account of the illegal alien gang problem
Nice post, ckilmer.
I am well aware of OTMs. The problem up North is with Canada’s immigration policies. They want people, so they let almost anyone in(well not Billy boy).Neither border can be ignored. Have you forgotten the guy that wanted to bomb the LA airport? He didn’t come from Mexico, but I guess you could call him an OTM, too.
“Have you forgotten the guy that wanted to bomb the LA airport? He didn’t come from Mexico, but I guess you could call him an OTM, too.”
Yes, I remember...New years 1999.
Know how many Americans have died at the hands of Mexicans since then? A lot more than died on 9/11.
Ignore the problem if you wish, but don’t ask the rest of us to join your emotional denials of the threat of Mexico..
Ignore the warnings from the likes of the Marines, the CIA, Rumsfeld, the border patrol, etc,etc. at our peril.
Wait a minute here! Where did you see me denying the dangers of the Southern Border? I clearly stated:”Neither border can be ignored.”
The only one having emotional problems is you!
Oh, please...you tried to make Canada out worse than Mexico...read your own words, and please waste the rest of them on someone else. BTW...Canada has tightened up...and Mexico, they’ve tightened up too...they send all their illegal aliens to us! You’ve got the new DHS broad on your side, so bully for ya.
Dr. Bogus: “I am well aware of OTMs. The problem up North is with Canada’s immigration policies. They want people, so they let almost anyone in(well not Billy boy).Neither border can be ignored. Have you forgotten the guy that wanted to bomb the LA airport? He didn’t come from Mexico, but I guess you could call him an OTM, too.
You’re being silly! I never tried to make the Northern border out to be worse than the Southern Border! Do a search on my past postings on border security. You’ll find that I’m a staunch supporter of very strong controls. My point is that we can’t ignore either border. I’ve been sick and tired of illegals and the multitude of problems, and deaths, that they’re causing, for decades. Don’t try to put words in my mouth and twist the meanings of my comments.
ping
It’s obvious that Mexico needs an emergency bailout of several billion dollars to compete with the Mexican drug lords corruption funding. I’m sure The One and Juan McCain will figure that cost in to the economic recovery plan. Have no fear. /sarc/
Too bad he never did much about it
Well, if that doesn’t work, I’m sure they’ll both be more than “compassionately” happy to give the entire country, including those already here, refugee status. Justified or not, I’m just waiting for THAT headline.
Its true:
Canadian Intelligence (CSIS) Director Jim Judd testified recently before the Senate committee reviewing Canada's anti-terrorism legislation, he noted there were now suspected terrorists in Canada that "have had no discernible previous link of any kind with the terrorist networks." Canadian intelligence experts believe that converts to Islam in the country are becoming a major source of Al-Qaeda combatants and pose a risk to security.
An intelligence report from Canada's spy service, released to a daily said "there is a direct threat to Canada and Canadian interests from Al-Qaeda and related groups," and that those groups are attempting to expand their support in Canada. "Converts are highly prized by terrorist groups for their familiarity with the West and relative ease at moving through Western society," the recently declassified Canadian Security Intelligence Service report said.
This is from a few years back but nothing has changed. We need to look after both borders. When either we or Israel go after Iran you can expect an attack from their Hezbollah or Hamas proxies living on the government dime in Canada. According to the RCMP, over 50 known terrorist organizations, comprising more than 10,000 individuals, operate in Canada. I think the new SEC/DHS must have just got the briefing.
I don’t disagree with your examples, just don’t ignore the multitude of evidence that terrorists cross the Mexican border as well.
You missed the point of the conversation:
““The danger from the South is mexicans.
The danger from the North is muzziecans.”
The point is, it’s not ONLY Mexicans coming across the southern border.
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