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Draft mandate for fed jobs ruled unconstitutional (Selective Service sign-up for males)
Yahoo! News Singapore / The Associated Press ^ | January 28, 2009 | Denise Lavoie

Posted on 01/27/2009 8:53:17 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Henry Tucker had worked for the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. for 17 years when he was told he was going to lose his job _ because he hadn't registered for the military draft when he was 18.

Tucker was offered another job as a budget analyst at the National Institutes of Health, but that was withdrawn when the agency learned he never registered.

Tucker, now 38, said when he was 18, he didn't know he had to register for Selective Service.

"There hasn't been a draft since I was a child. To all of a sudden say this is an issue, that is unfair," said Tucker, of Washington, D.C.

A federal judge in Boston agreed, ruling in a case brought by Tucker and three other men that a 1985 law that bans most federal employment for men who knowingly fail to register for the military draft is unconstitutional.

The Military Selective Service Act requires men to register between the ages of 18 and 26.

U.S. District Judge Douglas Woodlock ruled Monday that a separate law that bans employment at federal executive agencies for men who fail to register is an unconstitutional "bill of attainder," an obscure Constitutional provision that prohibits the legislative branch from punishing people without a judicial trial.

Woodlock rejected the argument that the Military Selective Service Act, because it applies only to men, is discriminatory and violates the Constitution's equal protection guarantees.

(Excerpt) Read more at sg.news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: civilservice; constitution; judiciary; selectiveservice
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Either bring back the draft or drop the whole thing.
1 posted on 01/27/2009 8:53:17 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Vet Ditto


2 posted on 01/27/2009 8:54:36 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I wish it was 20 January 2013. I've had enough of this crap already.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

i never did think that to be fair.


3 posted on 01/27/2009 8:54:46 PM PST by ken21 (the only thing we have to fear is fdr deja vu.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree.


4 posted on 01/27/2009 8:56:31 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Working for feds means playing by their rules. That means that they can dredge up any bit of info they like in your medical history, taxes and draft registration.

Sadly, the new Administration would like to extend “their rules” to everyone else in the country.


5 posted on 01/27/2009 8:57:26 PM PST by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Under Odumbo, that is a possibility. Wouldn’t that be a gas with the hippie dippy youths who voted for him.


6 posted on 01/27/2009 8:59:36 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

After all these years it finally, actually MATTERS... Must be a REPUBLICAN and it’s the ONLY excuse they can find to FIRE HIM??


7 posted on 01/27/2009 9:00:25 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (MULLAH HUSSEIN - which part of "Congress shall make no Law" - do you NOT UNDERSTAND??)
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To: Wiseghy

I had to certify that I registered (and that far back, the draft was still in force) even tho I had retired from the military.

Stupid law

Stupider enforcement.


8 posted on 01/27/2009 9:16:37 PM PST by ASOC (This space could be employed, if I could only get a bailout...)
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To: ASOC

**I had to certify that I registered ...**

I was able to look at them and say ... “YES, I was a 1A that they changed to a 4F” .. and they had NO EFFING IDEA what I was Talking about. Dead silence then .. NExt Question ...


9 posted on 01/27/2009 9:21:11 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (MULLAH HUSSEIN - which part of "Congress shall make no Law" - do you NOT UNDERSTAND??)
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**Either bring back the draft or drop the whole thing.**

If we did that, they’d have to disband the Selective Service... and they turn all those UNEMPLOYABLE Drunks out on the Streets.


10 posted on 01/27/2009 9:23:31 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (MULLAH HUSSEIN - which part of "Congress shall make no Law" - do you NOT UNDERSTAND??)
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"If we did that, they’d have to disband the Selective Service... and they turn all those UNEMPLOYABLE Drunks out on the Streets."

Could you please explain what that means?

11 posted on 01/27/2009 9:36:14 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Don't confuse what you got a right to do with what's right to do." Bill Bennett)
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**Could you please explain what that means?**

I’ve just had a lot of trouble with Government Agencies and PRivate sector Beareaucracies, oover the years, so I don’t carry a high opinion of most of them.


12 posted on 01/27/2009 9:40:35 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (MULLAH HUSSEIN - which part of "Congress shall make no Law" - do you NOT UNDERSTAND??)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I thought that the Selective Service registration was a political gimmick by Carter to make it look like he was strong militarily. I signed up when I was 18 but always thought it was stupid.


13 posted on 01/27/2009 9:40:48 PM PST by Comparative Advantage
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**I thought that the Selective Service registration was a political gimmick by Carter to make it look like he was strong militarily.**

That’s most my opinion, and thus my opinion of most Govt agencies!


14 posted on 01/27/2009 9:42:51 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (MULLAH HUSSEIN - which part of "Congress shall make no Law" - do you NOT UNDERSTAND??)
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U.S. District Judge Douglas Woodlock ruled Monday that a separate law that bans employment at federal executive agencies for men who fail to register is an unconstitutional "bill of attainder," an obscure Constitutional provision that prohibits the legislative branch from punishing people without a judicial trial.

Just when did the prohibition against bills of attainder become "obscure"?

15 posted on 01/27/2009 9:47:33 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: gwilhelm56

Certainly showed the (relative) age of the participants.

And yes, I AM that old.....


16 posted on 01/27/2009 9:50:33 PM PST by ASOC (This space could be employed, if I could only get a bailout...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I had not thought of this before but I never registered for the draft. I went into the Marine Corp right after High school and never thought about it. Will this come back to haunt me?


17 posted on 01/27/2009 9:58:25 PM PST by BBell
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Henry Tucker is retarded or a BS artist. Or both.


18 posted on 01/27/2009 10:01:02 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The requirement for Federal Student Aid will be the next to fall after this...


19 posted on 01/27/2009 10:16:58 PM PST by TheBattman (Pray for our country....)
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I still get questioned about that ...

Went to get loan I think for some school classes. they Ask if I ever had a Student loan before.. yea..22 years ago and paid it (back when it was the norm to NOT Pay them back)..”We’ll need proof”. Proof??? that back was dissolved and became something else 20 years ago. “SORRY Can’t help you”

FINE... went to back cross town... umm NO.. no student loans before.. noone said another word about it.

you better have kept those papers from 30 years ago PLUS.. geez


20 posted on 01/27/2009 10:22:33 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (MULLAH HUSSEIN - which part of "Congress shall make no Law" - do you NOT UNDERSTAND??)
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