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To: Badeye; SierraWasp; BOBTHENAILER; Ernest_at_the_Beach; BIGLOOK; Miss Marple; Liz

“Elections have consequences, and the GOP threw the last two away due to stupidity. We now get to live with the results for at least four years.”

‘When President Barack Obama used those words to reply to Republican objections to the massive spending bill working its way through Congress, he did much more than deliver a good laugh line and declare the GOP proposals irrelevant.’

Yep, the insane ones, who post here and claim to be conservatives, but want to lose elections to the rats to teach us a lesson have a lot to be happy about as our nation teters on the edge of the abyss. The downfall started with the first “lesson” giving control of congress to Pelosi Galore and Reid the Red in the 2006 election.

The grim reality is simple. When you lose elections, you have no power and become “Irrelevant! “


20 posted on 01/29/2009 7:39:21 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Does Zer0 have any friends, who are not criminals or foriegn or domestic terrorists or both?)
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To: Grampa Dave

Until the Republicans voted in unison against the faux stimulus package, I would agree completely.

Now...I’m going to take a ‘watch and see’ attitude.


25 posted on 01/29/2009 7:44:25 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Grampa Dave
Yep, the insane ones, who post here and claim to be conservatives, but want to lose elections to the rats to teach us a lesson have a lot to be happy about as our nation teters on the edge of the abyss. The downfall started with the first “lesson” giving control of congress to Pelosi Galore and Reid the Red in the 2006 election.

There was a large measure of that, yes.

But examining the history of these things over the last many years on Free Republic, I'm beginning to believe that an Obama or his like was inevitable.

The combination of the illegal donations flowing in the back door to the Obama campaign, and the BILLIONS of dollars in free advertising from the Obama-worshipping media was unstoppable. I know that you're a media watcher also, and I know that I've NEVER seen anything like what went down in the last two months of the election.

On the bright? side, I also think that the September meltdown "got some help", and the "helpers" didn't really understand the full consequences of what they were doing.

The only way we're going to be able to take back the Republic is by denying the liberal Fascists any sort of aid and comfort in their attempts to get the "easy-money consumer economy" back on track.

They thought they could have this little hiccup, scare everybody, and then go back to the good ol' housing bubble, the good ol' credit card bubble, and all the other bubbles.

Us old-fashioned idiots knew all along that they were spending beyond their means, and wondered what wrong with OURSELVES that we couldn't get with the easy-money program.

Well, right now, this is the ONLY time they're going to be vulnerable. If they get their program back on track, you might as well sign your property, paycheck, children and grandchildren over to them. So, it's time to fight.

42 posted on 01/29/2009 8:12:25 AM PST by an amused spectator (Citizen Kenyan: Commander in The Effort Against Culturally-Influenced Misbehavior.)
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To: Grampa Dave
"Yep, the insane ones, who post here and claim to be conservatives, but want to lose elections to the rats to teach us a lesson have a lot to be happy about as our nation teters (sic) on the edge of the abyss."
"The grim reality is simple. When you lose elections, you have no power and become “Irrelevant!“

I think you actually do a good job highlighting the essential difference between conservatives on one hand and many contemporary republicans, including RINO's, Compassionate Conservatives, NeoCons, and the reach-across-the-asile kind of pretend republicans on the other hand.

Conservatives generally place principle over winning at any cost, whereas many of today's republicans place winning at any cost before principle.

If your goal is to implement policies consistent with conservative principles nothing is gained if you have to run a liberal as a republican to win.
Yes, we all know the argument that you must be in the game, you must win no matter the cost, or you cannot hope to see your principles transformed into policy.

Te sad truth is that when you win with a liberal gussied up as a RINO or other non-conservative they ignore conservatives until they need their votes again. We just had an eight year lesson in that as we watched a republican president reach across the island to Ted Kennedy more than he did to conservatives.

All conservatives are not at heart rabid republican party loyalists, but most do generally vote republican as the lesser of two evils. But, if there is a viable, more conservative alternative candidate that is where the conservative vote would go.
But republican party loyalists vote for the party's candidates - even the really horrible ones, because they want their party in power.

That is a significant difference and explains why republican party loyalists get so upset with conservatives who do not always blindly support republicans.

Look at the last election - the party faithful would have voted for McCain no matter what, but he would probably received 10 million fewer votes if he had not brought Sarah Palin on board to attract conservatives disgusted with the republican party.

46 posted on 01/29/2009 8:23:13 AM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself)
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To: Grampa Dave

In an odd way, I beg to differ, they may be irrelevant at the moment, but they don’t have to be.

Look at the democrats over the past years. They were basically irrelevant, but they made themselves relevant. Relevant enough to win.

Gop needs to get tough, ignore the trash talk for not keeling on Porkulus and stay focused on taking every moment possible to point out the bad promises and failure of the democrats.

Tough job because you can’t let up one minute. That is what they did. Yes, the party in power is going to squeal, but that only makes you get tougher.


70 posted on 01/29/2009 12:07:24 PM PST by dforest (life is now good again....he has been inaugurated)
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