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Stimulus Bill Would Give Payments to Illegal Aliens
NEWSMAX ^ | jANUARY 29, 2009 | STAFF

Posted on 01/30/2009 5:06:47 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20

WASHINGTON - The $800 billion-plus economic stimulus measure making its way through Congress could steer government checks to illegal immigrants, a top Republican congressional official asserted Thursday.

The legislation, which would send tax credits of $500 per worker and $1,000 per couple, expressly disqualifies nonresident aliens, but it would allow people who don't have Social Security numbers to be eligible for the checks. .

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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; economy; immigrantlist; immigration; taxrefunds

1 posted on 01/30/2009 5:06:47 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Turret Gunner A20

I don’t want my money taken away from my family and given to legal residents more less illegal scum.


2 posted on 01/30/2009 5:08:56 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

How can you be a worker without a SS number?


3 posted on 01/30/2009 5:09:08 AM PST by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

We’re screwed. I’m finding it hard to care anymore.


4 posted on 01/30/2009 5:13:11 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Sacajaweau

The IRS can give them a Tax Number...so to collect taxes.

The are ways that illegal aliens can be part of the system...even though they are not legally allowed to be here

Sick that anti-American elements of our government will take hard working Americans money and give it to illegal alien lawbreakers


5 posted on 01/30/2009 5:14:31 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Open Borders should be only for bookstores, not the third world hellhole known as Mexico)
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To: Sacajaweau
How can you be a worker without a SS number?

Heck, you can get a job, a bank account, a mortgage, all kinds of stuff without a nasty ol' SSN.

Gee, the Feds make it easy. Check this out....

Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN)

Who needs a stinkin' SSN?

6 posted on 01/30/2009 5:16:05 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Wolfie

Oh no... don’t stop caring... Its’ what the 0 wants... if more and more people just give up then they have won. Keep fighting the good fight. More we stand up against these people they will back off.


7 posted on 01/30/2009 5:18:14 AM PST by Strutt9
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To: mewzilla
On a related note, from this past September....

Illegal Immigration and the Mortgage Mess

8 posted on 01/30/2009 5:19:04 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Turret Gunner A20
All along I have thought that McDonald's was a last ditch place to eat, and only if you were starving.

Now we are being force fed shite sandwiches, by criminals in Congress, for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.


Get off your knees Miss American Pie.

9 posted on 01/30/2009 5:26:12 AM PST by G.Mason (If you surrender your right to own a gun, you surrender your right to your life)
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To: Joe Boucher

illegals pay taxes...the ones in Georgia sure didn’t so how are they getting this money?


10 posted on 01/30/2009 5:30:40 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Stimulus Bill Would Give Payments to Illegal Aliens ....

...If Robert Reich had his way not a dime of the stimulus package would go to unemployed ‘white construction workers’


11 posted on 01/30/2009 5:31:49 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Illegals don’t need a stimulus check. What they need is 230 grains of copper-jacketed lead delivered at 850-900 feet-per-second.


12 posted on 01/30/2009 5:38:29 AM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: Wolfie
We’re screwed. I’m finding it hard to care anymore.

I truly understand......but we're not going to quit.

We are however, preparing to be self sufficient, and for other possibilities.

Things are going to get tight and ruff, but this republic is worth fighting for.

13 posted on 01/30/2009 5:39:52 AM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

“Tax credits” for people without SSN’s. Even without the “illegal alien” argument, this is disgusting.


14 posted on 01/30/2009 5:52:02 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: mmichaels1970

“illegal aliens are the democrat and ACORN voter list obama just handing them a little pay off.


15 posted on 01/30/2009 6:00:03 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Yesterday, I was out shopping. An advantage of being retired, doing the weekend shopping on Thursday.

I saw and heard what would described as spontaneous mini workshops in two stores being led by Mexican Americans for those apparently not legal.

Both leaders were sharp young women, who told their audiences about how to game the upcoming free checks.

“The legislation, which would send tax credits of $500 per worker and $1,000 per couple, expressly disqualifies nonresident aliens, but it would allow people who don’t have Social Security numbers to be eligible for the checks.

Undocumented immigrants who are not eligible for a Social Security number can file tax returns with an alternative number. A House-passed version of the economic recovery bill and one making its way through the Senate would allow anyone with such a number, called an individual taxpayer identification number, to qualify for the tax credits.”

I didn’t realize what was happening at the first lesson. Most of what was said was in Spanish. I did hear social security, tax refund and immigrants.

When I observed and heard what was happening at the second store, I realized what was happening. The young woman leading the ad hoc discussion was not that skilled in Spanish, and she would bring out the points and what she said was translated by another woman to the half dozen illegals listening. Those in her audience didn’t work at the store.

I told an asst store manager at the second store what was happening, and she broke up the ad hoc lesson.


16 posted on 01/30/2009 6:42:43 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Does Zer0 have any friends, who are not criminals or foriegn or domestic terrorists or both?)
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To: Kakaze
Seen this?...
17 posted on 01/30/2009 6:45:00 AM PST by G.Mason (If you surrender your right to own a gun, you surrender your right to your life)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Related:

Check this out. Just one preparer..just imagine how many fraud SS #’s are being used in this country.

Immigrant Tax Returns Seized in Colorado

Feb. 4, 2009

http://www.diversityinc.com/public/5178.cfm

Thousands of confidential tax returns have been seized from a tax preparer in Weld County, Colo., who works on tax returns for Latino workers, reports The New York Times. The seizure was part of a broad effort on the part of the Weld County sheriff’s office to ferret out people using fraudulent Social Security numbers. According to Sheriff John Cooke, investigators have identified 1,300 undocumented immigrants who have used fake or stolen Social Security numbers to file tax returns, and many will face deportation.

The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) requires people to pay taxes on income earned in the United States, regardless of their immigration status. According to the Times, many undocumented workers hope that complying with tax laws will help them when Congress addresses immigration reform.

“My clients wanted to do what any other American does,” said Amalia Cerrillo, whose business was raided. “And they wanted to show that they paid their taxes if there is ever a chance for amnesty or a green card.”

Last week, the American Civil Liberties Union of Colorado filed a lawsuit claiming that Weld County officials had violated the privacy rights of thousands of taxpayers. The IRS is also concerned about the operation and the effect it could have on revenue. According to the IRS, undocumented workers paid $50 billion in taxes from 1996 to 2003.


18 posted on 02/03/2009 9:43:07 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: Grampa Dave; All

Billions are paid out to illegal aliens with the ITIN. Often they get the EIC and get back much more than they ever paid.

http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalfindings.html

Treasury Department Report. The results of our study are also buttressed by an analysis of illegal alien tax returns done by the Inspector General’s Office of the Department of Treasury in 2004.35 That study found that 55 percent of illegal aliens who filed income tax returns using tax identification numbers had no federal income tax liability. While higher than the 45 percent estimated in this study, it must be remembered that this figure was only for those who filed tax returns using a tax identification number. These are all individuals who expected refunds, otherwise they would not have gone to the trouble of getting tax identification numbers and filing a return. But like our estimates, the Inspector General’s report indicates that roughly half of illegals have no tax liability, reflecting their very low incomes and large number of dependents. ________________

http://www.ustreas.gov/tigta/congress/congress_03102004.htm

The number of ITINs issued in the last few years has increased dramatically, climbing from 1.1 million in 2001 to 1.5 million in 2002—a one-year increase of about 36 percent. Normally, ITINs would be used to file a Form 1040NR—U.S. Nonresident Alien Income Tax Return. However, many ITINs are used to file Forms 1040, which creates challenges for tax administration. Our analysis of Forms 1040 filed in Tax Year 2001 with ITINs found that approximately 530,000 Forms 1040 were filed with ITINs as the primary number by aliens who resided in the U.S., but who were not authorized to work and, in general, to reside in the U.S.

* These returns reported adjusted gross income of $10.7 billion. After tax deductions and credits, these tax returns reported a total liability of $184 million. * Over half of the tax returns reported no tax liability, and $522 million in tax refunds were claimed on these returns.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0701/04/gb.01.html

BECK: This is insanity. You know, I just saw a number — and tell me if this number is right, if you even have it — I just saw a number on, in 2004, what we paid illegal aliens in tax refunds, 2004. Do you know this number?

CAMAROTA: Yes, I believe — the figure I`ve heard is about $10 billion. That`s based on estimates that the Treasury Department has done itself, $10 billion they paid back to illegal aliens.

BECK: That is insane. We`re paying them $10 billion, and we can`t arrest them, we can`t even find them, we don`t even know — $10 billion? And now we`re giving them Social Security, one that we don`t need another country to sabotage for us. We`re doing it ourselves. The whole thing is going to collapse.

CAMAROTA: Yes, and what`s worse than that is, that the IRS issues them tax I.D. numbers so that they can then file their income tax with their false Social Security numbers so that we can give them their $10 billion back.

BECK: OK, all right. So the last thing here — let me just role play here for a second. I`m an illegal alien. I have to now go to the government and prove to the government that I have a fake I.D., that I bought a fake Social Security card on the street in the black market, and then the government rewards me for that, right?

CAMAROTA: Yes, in effect, sure. Once you get legal status, then you apply for the credits that you earned while you were an illegal alien. And the way you do that is like you said: You show your false documents. You bring out your bogus tax returns, and so forth.


19 posted on 02/03/2009 10:11:03 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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