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Socialism versus Religion
Internet Archive ^ | 1912 | Socialist Party of Great Britain

Posted on 01/30/2009 8:12:18 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode

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1 posted on 01/30/2009 8:12:18 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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2 posted on 01/30/2009 8:13:06 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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3 posted on 01/30/2009 8:15:40 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

Only Congress has the power to establish a religion and they are restricted from doing so. God in the Pledge of Allegiance does not establish a religion. A prayer in school does not establish a religion, and a manger scene on public property does not establish a religion. People saying the Lord Jesus Christ's name does not establish a religion. Congress passing a law that says we all have to go to the Glory Bound Baptist Church every Sunday establishes a religion.

Now, Congress is also forbidden from prohibiting the free exercise thereof. Hence, the law of the land says you can not tell me that I can not put a manger scene or the Ten Commandments up. You can not tell me I can not pray. You can not tell me I can not say the Lord's name.

Socialist/Communist wish to remove God from public view so you and I will begin to forget about God. Why do they want you to forget about God? Well, I am an American. I pray to my God and we handle my problems. I do not pray to my Government. Once people have forgotten how to pray to their God for help, they will begin to pray to the Government for help. From the cradle to the grave.

It is imperative that we keep God in public view.

Also, we have God given rights in this Nation. We do not have man or guvmint given rights. If Socialist can get us to think there is no God, then your rights were given to you by man or guvmint. If they were given by man or guvmint, then they can be taken away by man and/or guvmint.

Even if you are a EVO or you just don't believe in God, please don't get sucked any further into the socialist way of thinking. You will contribute to the lose of your rights, if you do.

4 posted on 01/30/2009 8:21:06 AM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
The irony is of course that the leftism we see today are fine with *religion* - religion can be controlled by simple subversion.

It's Christian faith they can't stand. The 1911 version was anti "religion", sure, but today we often see them working with muzzies & religious (but unbelieving) libtards against their real enemy: Christians


5 posted on 01/30/2009 8:21:16 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: do the dhue

To sum all that up, the “guvmint” takes away the knowledge of God and fills your mind withthoughts of that great savior, GUVMINT!


6 posted on 01/30/2009 8:26:37 AM PST by RoadTest (The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? - Jer.17:9)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Very interesting view and I could concur. So, who is our real enemy?


7 posted on 01/30/2009 8:27:46 AM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
It is therefore a profound truth, that Socialism is the natural enemy of religion.. the entry of Socialism is, consequently, the exodus of religion...

Socialism being a transitional phase, according to that humor-challenged Marx Brother Vladi, I think there should be an advertising campaign along the lines of the old Beef commercials.

How about a bumper sticker with the word "EVOLUTION" as a background with "Socialists: they're what's for lunch." juxstaposed in the foreground?

Until we get those, I'll keep the "My God is alive; sorry to hear about yours." sticker on the back of the truck. ;)

8 posted on 01/30/2009 8:29:53 AM PST by shoutingandpointing
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To: RoadTest
To sum all that up, the “guvmint” takes away the knowledge of God and fills your mind withthoughts of that great savior, GUVMINT!

That's "obama" now to you, sir.

9 posted on 01/30/2009 8:30:10 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode; narses
No man can be consistently both a socialist and a Christian.

- Socialism v. Religion, Executive Committee of the Socialist Party of Great Britain, Jan., 1911.

5. For, indeed, although the socialists, stealing the very Gospel itself with a view to deceive more easily the unwary, have been accustomed to distort it so as to suit their own purposes, nevertheless so great is the difference between their depraved teachings and the most pure doctrine of Christ that none greater could exist: "for what participation hath justice with injustice or what fellowship hath light with darkness?"[7] Their habit, as we have intimated, is always to maintain that nature has made all men equal, and that, therefore, neither honor nor respect is due to majesty, nor obedience to laws, unless, perhaps, to those sanctioned by their own good pleasure.

- Pope Leo XIII, Encyclical Letter Quod Apostolici Muneris (On Socialism), 1878

Glad to see the socialists and the Christians agree.

10 posted on 01/30/2009 8:30:28 AM PST by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: RoadTest

That is it.

By standing up for God and Country, we also stand up for our freedom’s. Even if people don’t believe in God, they should still accept that they have inalienable rights or those rights will be removed by GUVMINT one day.


11 posted on 01/30/2009 8:31:46 AM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

So Christian Socialist Democrats is a contradiction of terms.


12 posted on 01/30/2009 8:32:03 AM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: do the dhue

“Very interesting view and I could concur. So, who is our real enemy?”

The Left, but who are the left really? Their original premises are clearly disproven, and yet, their tribe remains very coherent, around some fuzzy... something. You can point out facts to them - they don’t care. Their tribe’s views come 1st. This is very confusing to us - to us it is obvious that their way will destroy our excellent civilization and replace it with tyranny. To them Bush is a nazi.

Who is our enemy, why is our enemy, what is our enemy. These are all good questions. Asking them is a huge step forward IMO


13 posted on 01/30/2009 8:32:20 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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Religion will be an essential aid to formation of the world government. It will the drug that that unites the populace.

I think you are contrasting that with having a real, one-on-one relationship with our God. I don’t even call that religion.


14 posted on 01/30/2009 8:35:08 AM PST by RoadTest (The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? - Jer.17:9)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
I concur. They will destroy us from within and are more dangerous then a nuclear war or conventional war. We have the ability to fight back in those cases. But it seems we are short on the ability to fight back against the loony tunes in this great Nation.
15 posted on 01/30/2009 8:44:31 AM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: Blind Eye Jones
Christian Socialist Democrats

Either a contradiciton in terms or useful idiots to the socialist communist agenda.

16 posted on 01/30/2009 8:46:48 AM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Socialism IS a religion.


17 posted on 01/30/2009 8:49:05 AM PST by Trod Upon (The Left killed my country.)
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That's "obama" now to you,

Hi metmom!

I like to refer to it er him as Obozo. :-)

18 posted on 01/30/2009 8:50:20 AM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Bump for later.


19 posted on 01/30/2009 8:54:28 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
“Their tribe’s views come 1st.”

It's religious zeal and faith, faith that Bush is total evil and Obama is the new messiah. A faith just as powerful as what Germany felt for Hitler, who was their champion to solve all their problems. Throw reason under the bus and ride the wave of emotionalism and hysteria coming to you from the mass media. Supercharge your day with a fix or dose of the Oman/Iman (digital TV Obama)... better that the Beatles! That is how they want to keep faith burning and solidarity in tact. But it is bound to implode at some point... or ist it?

20 posted on 01/30/2009 9:03:03 AM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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