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Politicians Want to Use Tax Dollars to Crush Newer-Model Trucks and SUVs
SEMA (Specialty Equipment Market Association ) ^ | Jan. 29, 2009 | SEMA (Specialty Equipment Market Association)

Posted on 01/30/2009 7:36:30 PM PST by Inyo-Mono

SEMA is opposing an effort by some Washington lawmakers to include a national car crushing program in the upcoming economic stimulus package. Vehicles targeted for the scrap pile will likely include Chevy Blazers, Silverados, S-10s and Tahoes; Dodge Dakotas and Rams; Ford Explorers and F-Series; Jeep Cherokees and Wranglers; and any other SUV or truck that obtains less than 18 mpg.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: 111th; automakers; energy; globalwarming; jeep; liberty; nannystate; suv; trucks
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Feinstein and Waxman want you to turn in your newer model SUV and Jeep so they can crush it if it gets less than 18 MPG.
1 posted on 01/30/2009 7:36:30 PM PST by Inyo-Mono
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To: Inyo-Mono

Are these the dumbest people ever? I am sure God, himself. is spinning at their stupidity.


2 posted on 01/30/2009 7:40:51 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

There is nothing better for an economy than to destroy valuable assets.

< / socialism>


3 posted on 01/30/2009 7:41:22 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Dissent is Patriotic. Palin 2012!)
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To: Inyo-Mono

I had to click the article. NOPE! NOT SATIRE. They try to crush my Explorer and I’ll crush them. I’m not fond of Commies OR Nazis.


4 posted on 01/30/2009 7:41:23 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I wish it was 20 January 2013. I've had enough of this crap already.)
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To: Inyo-Mono
Will GM, Ford and Chrysler get enough to crush new card directly off the assembly line?
5 posted on 01/30/2009 7:42:23 PM PST by KarlInOhio (On 9/11 Israel mourned with us while the Palestinians danced in the streets. Who should we support?)
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To: KarlInOhio
card->cars
6 posted on 01/30/2009 7:42:54 PM PST by KarlInOhio (On 9/11 Israel mourned with us while the Palestinians danced in the streets. Who should we support?)
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To: Inyo-Mono

Dems are in charge. They sure don’t care about those of us in rural and semi-rural areas. I guess I’m supposed to tow my horses with a Prius...just another example that the dems love beef, when it’s raised in Japan...


7 posted on 01/30/2009 7:43:35 PM PST by Crapgame (Palin/Coulter 2012)
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To: Inyo-Mono

At first I thought this was satire. I had to work hard to convince myself that it isn’t. Absolutely crazy.


8 posted on 01/30/2009 7:44:12 PM PST by KansasGirl
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To: Inyo-Mono

The F150 is the top selling truck. Democrats shur is smrat.


9 posted on 01/30/2009 7:44:42 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

Ignorance, they can build Volgas, but can they sell Volgas.

They are clearly trying to play on people’s fears.


10 posted on 01/30/2009 7:44:52 PM PST by Tarpon (America's first principles, freedom, liberty, market economy and self-reliance will never fail.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Sadly, it is not satire. They are trying their best to ruin this country. They will take my Jeep from cold, dead hands.


11 posted on 01/30/2009 7:46:59 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (In Memory of My Father [1917-1988] --WWII Vet, U.S. Army Air Forces)
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To: Inyo-Mono

I thought SEMA stood for Socialist Emergency Management Agency? Where all natural disasters are solved by throwing money and free credit cards at people?


12 posted on 01/30/2009 7:48:06 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: Inyo-Mono
”Vehicles targeted for the scrap pile will likely include Chevy Blazers, Silverados, S-10s and Tahoes; Dodge Dakotas and Rams; Ford Explorers and F-Series; Jeep Cherokees and Wranglers; and any other SUV or truck that obtains less than 18 mpg."

I’m sure our democrat-communists will appreciate the irony when Americans are still driving their 40 year old Chevy Blazers just as their Cuba revolutionary counterparts are still doing with those 1950’s vintage vehicles today. Ah, hope & change…

13 posted on 01/30/2009 7:49:05 PM PST by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard)
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To: Inyo-Mono

I don’t own an SUV, but if this goes through I can see them coming for my sports car in a few years...


14 posted on 01/30/2009 7:53:16 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (The New Deal - It's what made the Depression Great)
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To: Inyo-Mono

They’ll never get their hands on my Silverado as long as I’m still alive and have ammo.


15 posted on 01/30/2009 7:53:24 PM PST by Dapper 26
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To: Inyo-Mono

To the politicians that supposedly care (and fakely care) about our environment: My old man had a gas guzzling (11 MPG) Pontiac Grad Prix, a 76’ if you guys had put that guy in jail for that back then, at least I’d listen to you, but now, you suck, harder than anything that has ever sucked before, so FU. and so long as Al Gore is alive, FU, and Nacy Belagosie got her fuel hogging jet, FU. And even if you could ‘Punish’ folk for having vehicles like that - I’d like to challange that athourity, when so many politicians seem to think that any law you could pass would be exempt for them, That’s not in the US Constitution!


16 posted on 01/30/2009 7:53:44 PM PST by ChetNavVet (Build It, and they won't come!)
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To: ChetNavVet

The democrats are too stupid to realize that they’re planting the seeds of their own destruction.


17 posted on 01/30/2009 7:55:34 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

As long as they don’t come after older ones!

I’m keeping my 1965 Chev PU with only 1,300,000 miles on it, no way it’s going to the crusher, I wouldn’t have a new one if it was for free.


18 posted on 01/30/2009 7:59:02 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Inyo-Mono; BP2; unspun; seekthetruth; Chief Engineer; LucyT; Deepest End; STARWISE; BykrBayb; ...

This is from beyond the beyond.

I took the few minutes it takes to email these birds.
Just being direct was a form of relative politeness to this pair.


19 posted on 01/30/2009 7:59:39 PM PST by BonRad (As Rome goes so goes the world)
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To: Inyo-Mono

Uh oh. The governor of Massachusetts, close buddy of Obama, didn’t get the memo. The first thing he did when he took office was to turn in the state car for a Cadillac Escalade.

A big important man has to have a big important car.


20 posted on 01/30/2009 8:05:15 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: Inyo-Mono

Roosevelt did this during the depression. They said the problem was “overproduction”. People were starving and they would take pigs ready for market, kill them, and bury the carcasses.

It was crazy then, and is crazy now.


21 posted on 01/30/2009 8:06:13 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Inyo-Mono; All

22 posted on 01/30/2009 8:12:40 PM PST by musicman (Until I see a REAL C.O.L.B. BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Inyo-Mono
ROFL What an outright STUPID idea. And coming from these two, why am I not surprised. I'd imagine the banks that actually own those vehicles, and a great many of them, might just a something to say to them.
23 posted on 01/30/2009 8:28:11 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: Inyo-Mono
Another excellent example of liberal demonrat overreaching. I hope they try it. They will get spanked so badly in the 2010 election that they will be in the minority for at least a decade. Especially if they also try to enact some form of the fairness doctrine and/or try more gun control legislation.
24 posted on 01/30/2009 8:28:32 PM PST by GBA
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To: Inyo-Mono

1. Compensation for loss of the vehicle?

2. Who pays off any current auto loan?

3. Who decides what mileage I am getting with MY vehicle, and how?


25 posted on 01/30/2009 8:31:13 PM PST by ChicagahAl (It's mourning in America. Mourning our dearly departed freedom, liberty, security and wealth.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

Sounds like the private contractor is clearly in their sights. What the hell are they thinking?


26 posted on 01/30/2009 8:32:46 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: Crapgame
Oh yes, and my niece will load her 4 kids, 3 car seats, diaper bags and what not into a tiny subcompact and go about getting a weeks worth of groceries. Wonder which part of her precious cargo these fools would have her leave at the curb??

And her Dad can load hay and roofing materials in one, get rid of his truck, after all what does a working man with a farm need one for?

27 posted on 01/30/2009 8:33:03 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: cripplecreek
The democrats are too stupid to realize that they’re planting the seeds of their own destruction.

We keep thinking that and yet, it is us that keep shooting ourselves in the foot trying to look like them.

Liberal destruction will only come when conservatives follow through and actually pull the trigger when they have the opportunity.

28 posted on 01/30/2009 8:34:40 PM PST by uptoolate (Shhh. If you listen real hard, God is speaking to America.)
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To: Inyo-Mono; All

According to this, it has already been dropped from the “Stimulus Bill”. However, slightly different versions are in Congress in the form of S. 247 and HR 520

http://www.semasan.com/main/main.aspx?id=62505


29 posted on 01/30/2009 8:36:17 PM PST by Roccus (I am a RINO...............I am a Conservative.)
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To: ladyjane
Hahaha, even if he can't see over the steering wheel ;) That's why folks call him Coupe Deval.
30 posted on 01/30/2009 8:37:21 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: Inyo-Mono
This is even more stupid than it initially seems. Only a few years ago Congress authorized a 'stimulus' bill to subsidize the purchase of vehicles over 6,000 lbs.

Fed Tax Break Encourages SUV Purchases (2003 article)

http://abcnews.go.com/technology/hybrid/Story?id=97505&page=1

Thanks to a generous tax credit, Karl Wizinsky is driving a very large vehicle these days — a 2002 Ford Excursion. "It doesn't hurt to have a larger vehicle, but I wouldn't say it's a requirement of my business," he said on a cell phone while driving the Excursion. "But I ended up saving $32,000."

This year, the perks of buying a large SUV — if you're a small business owner — got even bigger.

Congress recently passed a tax bill, as proposed in President Bush's economic stimulus plan, that offers a $100,000 tax credit for business owners who purchase any vehicle weighing 6,000 pounds or more when fully loaded.

When Wizinsky's accountant told him about the credit last year, the amount was much less, at $75,000, but it was enough to encourage Wizinsky to trade in his Mercury Marquis for the Excursion.

"It sounded too good to be true," said Wizinsky, a health care consultant in Novi, Mich. "But it was true. So I bought the SUV. For a small company like mine it's a significant credit."

The tax break was/is for up to $25,000 for purchase of a vehicle for business purposes that weighs over 6,000 lbs. The intent was to get small businesses to make capital purchases faster than three years allowed under depreciation. However, because the law specified the weight but not the purpose, anyone buying an SUV could argue for the tax break. Obviously, the bigger the price tag, the more the rebate--someone buying a Jeep Commando got way less than someone buying a full-featured Hummer.

So now, we taxpayers get to subsidize the purchase of larger heavier vehicles AND subsidize their recall and destruction too !!!

Is this a great country or what ???

31 posted on 01/30/2009 8:38:19 PM PST by Lorianne (People who do not own their homes outright are mortgage-owners, not homeowners.)
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To: Inyo-Mono
May I just ask, is there any way the DEMOCRATS in Congress would not like to stick it to us taxpayers?

Just wondering.

32 posted on 01/30/2009 8:43:55 PM PST by Lorianne (People who do not own their homes outright are mortgage-owners, not homeowners.)
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To: Inyo-Mono
Talk about total wasteful thinking.  Do these idiots realize that the energy spent building these vehicles far surpass the energy they will supposedly waste during their lifetime?
33 posted on 01/30/2009 8:51:47 PM PST by HawaiianGecko (Online internet polls are foolish: Winston Churchill, 1939)
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To: Inyo-Mono

Breathtaking stupidity bump for later read


34 posted on 01/30/2009 9:10:32 PM PST by Tirian
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To: Inyo-Mono

All I say, WTF. How long before they want my ‘06 Subaru WRX Turbo because it can easily do 85 to 90 mph all day long comfortably ? I also have a ‘99 Jeep Cherokee and I will give it up when it cannot be fixed anymore - ready for the junk yard.


35 posted on 01/30/2009 9:13:24 PM PST by CORedneck
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To: Uncle Miltie

Hell, the same people want to “crush” all existing coal-fired power plants and replace with with greenie weenie solar and wind plants. Same economic principle. Destroy a perfectly good asset to create an artificial demand for a replacement asset.

One program I WOULD strongly favor would be the “crushing” of all the houses in Chevy Chase, Georgetown, Bethesda, Arlington and Alexandria — for starters.


36 posted on 01/30/2009 9:35:50 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: gidget7
. I'd imagine the banks that actually own those vehicles, and a great many of them, might just a something to say to them.

Surely you jest. The bankers would just descend on Washington and demand TARP IX.

37 posted on 01/30/2009 9:37:47 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Inyo-Mono

They’re just domineering, control-freak California weirdos trying to get your goat. Having tried all sorts of abominable social practices and diseases, they want to start trouble for some excitement. They’re not going to send the Army (which isn’t big enough) through all of our ghettos to destroy all of the po’ folks’ “previously owned” rides.

The proposed program to “crush” your cars is really only a pork scheme for offering you money on those heaps in return for buying new cars. Liars, liars on both sides... Just laugh at ‘em and tell ‘em to shut up!


38 posted on 01/30/2009 9:44:09 PM PST by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: Inyo-Mono
Feinstein and Waxman want you to turn in your newer model SUV and Jeep so they can crush it if it gets less than 18 MPG.

Congress's version of a Potlatch Ceremony.

potlatch Definition from Wiktionary,

English

Etymology: From Chinook Jargon potlatch (“‘gift’”), from Nootka p̓ačiƛ (“‘to give in ceremony’”).

[edit] Noun, Singular: potlatch; Plural: potlatches

A ceremony amongst certain Native American peoples of the Pacific northwest in which gifts are bestowed upon guests and personal property is destroyed in a show of wealth and generosity.

In this case, Congressional generosity with both your tax money and your property.

39 posted on 01/30/2009 9:56:26 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Crapgame
No, you use your horses to tow the Prius to a charging station.


40 posted on 01/30/2009 9:58:58 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Great idea!!

Except for Global Warming Flatulence Taxes that will be imposed.


41 posted on 01/30/2009 10:14:34 PM PST by berdie (Philosophies of the school room in one generation will reflect the government philosophy of the next)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Same here, they can keep their freaking hands off my suburban.


42 posted on 01/31/2009 12:23:22 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Lorianne
So now, we taxpayers get to subsidize the purchase of larger heavier vehicles AND subsidize their recall and destruction too !!!

Don't forget, we're also subsidizing the auto companies that build them and that pay the UAW 85% of full pay to not build these vehicles. I'd hate to be a consrvative satirist - you'd never out-do the real democrat plans.

43 posted on 01/31/2009 2:00:15 AM PST by MathDoc (Don't blame me, I voted for Governor Palin and the wrinkly white-haired guy)
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To: Inyo-Mono
Slowly but surely the Washingtonians are destroying major business enterprises in this country ... setting themselves up to come to the rescue with a government take over. Auto, oil, health-care (read Code Blue, Health Care In Crisis by Edward R. Annis, M.D., for a chronology of government meddling that has ruined the American health-care system), banking, etc.

This creeping socialism, engineered by the political class, is resulting in an incremental overthrow of the government of the USofA.

44 posted on 01/31/2009 4:47:58 AM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaNation: Tax cheat sworn in as Treasury Secretary --- you can't make this stuff up !!!)
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To: Inyo-Mono

I have news for swinestein and big nose. My ‘94 S-10 get better than 22 MPG with in city driving and almost 25 on the highway.


45 posted on 01/31/2009 6:14:58 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dissent is patriotic - Hussein is not and will never be my president.)
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To: steelyourfaith
This creeping socialism, engineered by the political class, is resulting in an incremental overthrow of the government of the USofA.

I agree.

46 posted on 01/31/2009 8:31:17 AM PST by Inyo-Mono (In Memory of My Father [1917-1988] --WWII Vet, U.S. Army Air Forces)
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To: Inyo-Mono
Feinstein and Waxman want you to turn in your newer model SUV and Jeep so they can crush it if it gets less than 18 MPG.

If they give me a 19mpg, 2009 Cadillac CTS in exchange, then count me in.

Actually, I think it's a terrible idea. I'd much rather give them a list of the SUV's and their SOB's I've encountered in the past two years, and have them crushed.

Driver optional.

47 posted on 01/31/2009 12:33:43 PM PST by Polarik ("A forgery created to prove a claim repudiates that claim")
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To: Inyo-Mono

“From my cold dead Hi/Low range Hub lock switch!”


48 posted on 02/02/2009 7:03:45 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Inyo-Mono

My Tahoe is an 05 and runs perfectly 16.5/20 mpg, I want to get a new one just to spite these people.


49 posted on 02/02/2009 7:06:29 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Lorianne
The program you described in that post paid for my brother, who owns a nursery, to buy a huge new 4x4 pickup.

With all the tax breaks his accountant figured it wound up being free!

It never saw any use in the business beyond plowing the parking lot in winter.

50 posted on 02/02/2009 7:18:41 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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