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Butt's opening up a can of worms here, but sounds like the Four Atheist Horsemen over there in the UK aren't so influential after all.
1 posted on 02/01/2009 5:11:28 PM PST by Baladas
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>>The poll found that 25% of Britons believe Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution is “definitely true”, with another quarter saying it is “probably true”. Half of the 2,060 people questioned were either strongly opposed to the theory or confused about it.<<

That’s about the percent I would expect to even know Darwin had two main separate theories - common decent and natural selection. In fact, 25% might be optimistic.


2 posted on 02/01/2009 5:13:49 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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The half that don’t believe...are likely the muslim half.


3 posted on 02/01/2009 5:14:06 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Give me Liberty or give me something to aim at)
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How anyone could look at whats become of British ( or American ) civilization and believe in the ascent of man ( or of species in general ) is beyond me. And apparently I am not alone.


4 posted on 02/01/2009 5:14:18 PM PST by festus (Politics makes for strange bedfellows)
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Half of Britons do not believe in evolution, survey finds

If half do not believe in evolution, then another half either (1) Do not believe in evolution or ; (2) are unsure.

So why did this headline not read "Half of Britons are either unsure of or believe in evolution, survery finds".

"half do not believe in evolution" which means that "not believing in evolution" is what they are promoting. Anybody out there got a clue why newspapers are going under because of their propogandist methods? Anybody?

5 posted on 02/01/2009 5:18:55 PM PST by PistolPaknMama (We're mad, but when do we get REALLY mad?)
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And here's the whole point of the study:

"it was important for scientists and educators to disentangle religious belief from evidence."

In other words, if they still believe in a "GOD", we have to encourage them to give up such nonsense and trust us.

6 posted on 02/01/2009 5:20:03 PM PST by Hillarys nightmare (So Proud to be living in "Jesus Land" ! Don't you wish everyone did?)
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It stands to reason.

Nearly half of any group will be below average.


7 posted on 02/01/2009 5:21:24 PM PST by js1138
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And yet they STILL overwhelmingly favored The One over Palin.

Suck on that, Matt Damon and atheists -- McCain/Palin's loss must've been over something else.

Cheers!

8 posted on 02/01/2009 5:38:19 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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Of course nobody in England goes to church anymore, but they reject Darwin? Go figure...


15 posted on 02/01/2009 6:06:54 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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Evolution as it has been taught in schools is false. One doesn’t even have to be religious to see that. Darwin was wrong on key measures. Natural selection and mutation can not alone account for what we see in nature. All one has to do is pick up any book on Darwinism and you find these fantastic tales ascribing causation as if some invisible hand is shaping an organism assuming that the same forces that shape an economy and a thunderstorm also shape the intricacies of the code of life. It is an elegant but flawed idea. There is indeed selection but it does not produce entirely new and novel organisms no more than an actor free economy produces new products. Products arise because intelligent beings design and create them and even though complex systems whether they be the dynamics inside of a star, a thunderstorm, or an economy that has people that design and produce products follow similar patterns confusing spontaneous systems with the intricate systems driven by human actors would be foolish.

They are similar because the same component processes hold whether we are taking about the snow and ice making up a snow bank on a mountain or a political campaign. However similar on a process level avalanches do not produce Presidents or toasters. That said it is not surprising people perceive flaws in the Atheist/Humanist version of evolution. I know this will alarm some who believe that such heresy when it comes to science is something so great that the end of this rather insignificant world (as they put it) with its insignificant people will follow if people do not accept their place alongside their chimp cousins. It doesn’t matter that this hysteria on their part is unfounded and also goes against the facts because humanity has progressed just fine and sometimes even better with out even knowing the details.

Wars have been fought, civilizations built and destroyed all without knowing the physics behind it. Much of modern science holds its creation to religious men and women of many stripes not just Christian and would probably never have progressed so far had there not been a desire to discover the order of nature as it relates to a supreme being or many supreme beings. Whether such a being or beings is fiction or not does not change the fact of its psychological power. Belief is powerful. Those who hold infantile bitterness because of bad experiences with fundamentalist religion often fail to be honest with themselves and others on the limits of their own knowledge and understanding. They often claim an absoluteness that is no different than the religions they hold disdain for. They no more than a common carpenter have based their every reaction on logic or analysis driven by flawless scientific method. They no matter how much disdain they hold humanity in are still governed by its inherent limits and flaws.

They are human and humans are a part of nature even though many of these same people seem confused on that point assigning that there is no God but simultaneously believing that some grand morality can be forged in accord to the “environment” or “nature” offering up that extinction is bad and the environment that has changed and cast countless creatures forever into the pit of history long before human beings came onto the scene can some how be protected and preserved and that humanity can be brought into harmony with it. Aside from the fact that much of what is preserved has been rendered functionally inert and impotent this is a basic misunderstanding of nature. It is changing and nothing mankind creates can be outside of it.
Right and wrong if there is no God to set the rules can only be defined by the whims and desires and fixations of human beings and this also includes the fixations of those who are scientists many which in today’s world are also bureaucrats.


16 posted on 02/01/2009 6:10:51 PM PST by Maelstorm (When the people find that they can vote themselves money,that will herald the end of the republic-BF)
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Half of all Britons, including all the Muslims?


18 posted on 02/01/2009 6:17:00 PM PST by Salman
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Belief in a god beside Darwin? How dare they? The High Priests of Darwinism are not happy!


21 posted on 02/01/2009 6:28:17 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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Thinking evolution explains everything and discounting a Creator is sort of like two computers talking one day and one of them lecturing - “You see, humans didn’t invent us. We simply evolved from wires and other accidental electrical thingys. In fact, I doubt the real existence of humans and can say with some confidence that humans are actually computerized and generated by us and don’t really exist at all!” - Professor P.C. Megalo Maniac, January 10, 2009


22 posted on 02/01/2009 6:30:07 PM PST by Twinkie (TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT!!!)
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Evolution, like gravity and relativity, is singularly unimpressed with poll results.


23 posted on 02/01/2009 6:31:14 PM PST by JimSEA
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Half of Britons do not believe in evolution"

Based on what they see and hear on their streets, on BBC and in their government bureaucracies it is no wonder.

If they are sane and rational they probably belive in De-evolution and that is perfectly understandable.

33 posted on 02/01/2009 8:19:32 PM PST by Iron Munro (Atlas Shrugged until Obama made shrugging while white a hate crime.)
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That’s because half of ‘em are muslims.


40 posted on 02/02/2009 6:40:31 AM PST by bergmeid (Watchin' Obrother self-destruct)
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