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Washington State Introduces Claim to State Sovereignty
nolanchart.com ^ | 2/04/2009 | Gary Wood

Posted on 02/06/2009 11:19:30 AM PST by ForGod'sSake

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To: anniegetyourgun
Our conservatives are more frustrated because we are surrounded by flaming libs?

Understood. I sympathize. What would happen if you and a few others got on the phones to the sponsor(s) of this resolution and asked them to start a fight with the libs. It would be a huge mountain to climb, but if enough noise is made from enough conservatives it might accidentally reach the public consciousness; stirring them out of their stupor. Open debate on it with libs would be a hoot!

41 posted on 02/06/2009 12:33:13 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: A lie will travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its shoes on!)
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To: Colvin
Washington is actually fairly conservative compared to our neighbor to the south.

Granted, since Pubbies still seem to run close races in some areas; governor comes to mind. I couldn't live in the Peoples Rebublic of Oregon!

So, what is your take on this "resolution"? Should conservatives get behind it and rattle some cages since it's almost surely DOA???

42 posted on 02/06/2009 12:48:32 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: A lie will travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its shoes on!)
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To: ForGod'sSake

That would be my take as well.


43 posted on 02/06/2009 12:51:07 PM PST by DoughtyOne (D1: Home of the golden tag line: FBI cuts off CAIR for contact with Hamas, Obama wants to talk to.)
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To: Markos33

Words likely more appropriate today than they were back then. It seems we have become too lazy or apathetic as a nation to do what is required to maintain our liberties. Sad testament.


44 posted on 02/06/2009 1:01:48 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: A lie will travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its shoes on!)
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To: ForGod'sSake

There is a reason that, all of a sudden, the states are asserting their rights. And the reason is that they fear that Congress knows EXACTLY what it is doing and WANTS to bankrupt the country.

Think of the ramifications of the country going bankrupt: No Social Secrity outlays, no Medicare outlays, no this or that AND they get to start over. Notice I said outlays; because they will STILL collect the tax.

Nobody has asked - or answered - the question: “What next?” when this fails.


45 posted on 02/06/2009 1:07:07 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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To: ForGod'sSake

ping


46 posted on 02/06/2009 1:08:09 PM PST by moneypenny (if your for the UN, you are UNAmerican)
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To: gunnyg
Missed your link earlier. Some discouraging numbers HERE re secession.

Now, I gotta take a nap!

47 posted on 02/06/2009 1:09:47 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: A lie will travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its shoes on!)
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To: NTHockey

bookmark


48 posted on 02/06/2009 1:20:58 PM PST by jusduat (wondering,questioning,searching)
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To: ForGod'sSake

I think that we all saw this coming with the liberal talk of obesity. I told my friend that the union health insurance policy is only one step away from socialized medicine, and that this is what we can all expect from Obamacare. That is what assisted suicide is all about, too, triage, saving the medical resources for the “most deserving”.


49 posted on 02/06/2009 1:29:19 PM PST by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Southern states are not “allowed” to act this way......


50 posted on 02/06/2009 2:06:22 PM PST by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: ForGod'sSake; justiceseeker93; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...

Thanks ForGod’sSake!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2178001/posts?page=50#50


51 posted on 02/06/2009 2:19:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: ForGod'sSake
“So, what is your take on this “resolution”? Should conservatives get behind it and rattle some cages since it's almost surely DOA???”

It will be DOA, but it is still good fun.

Don't forget Proverbs 22:7, the borrower is slave to the lender.

52 posted on 02/06/2009 4:04:16 PM PST by Colvin (Harry Reid is a sap sucking idiot.)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Possibly, but at the same time, if/when things go south, those states are pre-set for seceding from the Union.


53 posted on 02/06/2009 4:06:08 PM PST by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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To: central_va
Southern states are not “allowed” to act this way......

Don't start. It will only serve to derail the thread. The question I have is should we as conservatives not just support, but maybe champion these resolutions? How will these state legislators react when their efforts to tweak the nose of the federal leviathan are met with apathy from their core constituents, conservatives??? Even if they has the same chance as Algore being right about AGW, should we wave our arms a little and make a few phone calls?

54 posted on 02/06/2009 6:08:04 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: A lie will travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its shoes on!)
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To: Colvin
Don't forget Proverbs 22:7, the borrower is slave to the lender.

You may have missed the irony - or not. The feral government is the largest debtor in the world and they are indebted to and serving -- who???

55 posted on 02/06/2009 6:19:31 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: A lie will travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its shoes on!)
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To: ForGod'sSake
they are indebted to and serving -- who???

The CCP and the global elite.

BTW - I think Oklahoma passed basically the same measure last year. Their main reason was to avoid paying for unfunded Federal mandates. There will be plenty of those under the Obamination. Sounds like WA has the same idea. Good for them.
56 posted on 02/06/2009 8:31:30 PM PST by CowboyJay (Stop picking on Porkulus. He's not fat, he's just big-boned.)
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To: KrisKrinkle
If the Federal Government is limited to the powers delegated through the Constitution by the States, what would the States have to cooperate with that they wouldn’t?

Suppose the federal government collected gasoline taxes, but then required the states to implement a state-wide 55mph speed limit in order to get the money back. What would happen? Most states would submit to the will of the feds just to get back that money.

This was done in the 70's to get people to drive more slowly to conserve gas. Nearly all states gave in.

57 posted on 02/06/2009 9:03:26 PM PST by mc6809e
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To: CowboyJay
The CCP and the global elite.

CCP = Chicoms??? The global elite has to be a euphimism for something. Are we talking the global money managers in partnership with global industrialists?

And yeah, Oklahoma is in the envious position of being the ONLY state to have actually passed a resolution essentially like the ones we've been reading about. I've GOT to get on the horn with Rick Perry to see if we can get something started in Texas.

58 posted on 02/06/2009 9:22:22 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: A lie will travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its shoes on!)
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To: mc6809e
“Suppose the federal government collected gasoline taxes,...”

But I was responding to the part about “the income tax amendment”.

The federal government doesn't collect gasoline taxes under the authority of the income tax amendment, at least as far as I know.

If the Federal Government is limited to the powers delegated through the Constitution by the States, any income taxes collected should only be expended in the proper execution of those powers. Which expenditures in the proper execution of those powers would the States have to cooperate with that they wouldn’t want to?

59 posted on 02/06/2009 9:32:07 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: KrisKrinkle
But I was responding to the part about “the income tax amendment”.

The federal government doesn't collect gasoline taxes under the authority of the income tax amendment, at least as far as I know.

Read the entire amendment. It's not just about how taxes are collected, but it also concerns how they're spent.

60 posted on 02/06/2009 9:35:52 PM PST by mc6809e
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