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Pakistan Cocks a Snook At the World (India) ^ | Feb 7, 2009 | (India)

Posted on 02/07/2009 10:14:46 AM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins

Pakistan, Feb 7: A court in Pakistan Friday passed an order that freed disgraced nuclear scientist Abdul Qader Khan from the house arrest that he had been subject to since 2004, when the clandestine nuclear Wal-Mart that he had nurtured for decades first came to light. Global capitals 'regretted' this audacious judicial decision that made light of the grave nuclear transgressions that Dr. Khan had been guilty of - but to little avail. The Pakistani state appears to have succumbed to domestic compulsions and has decided to play up to the gallery and join the chorus that sees the tainted scientist as a national hero.

Exuding a sense of triumphalism, Dr. Khan responded to a media query about the international reaction by asserting: "Let them talk. Are they happy with our God? Are they happy with our Prophet? Are they happy with our leaders? Never, so why should we bother what they say about us?"

Nationalism leavened with Islamic fervor was on full display and given the virulent anti-US/anti-western mood that now obtains in Pakistan, the Zardari-Gilani combine has chosen to venerate nuclear defiance and the sub-text of the Islamic bomb. This cock a snook development comes even as Richard Holbrooke, the special envoy of US President Obama, is set to visit Pakistan next week.

But this is not a stand alone event. Earlier on Wednesday, several banned terrorist related groups convened a meeting in Muzaffarabad, capital of Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (POK), and vowed to continue their jihad for the liberation of Kashmir and wrest it from India. Organized on the eve of Kashmir Day, Feb 5, the various groups that came together under the United Jihad Council included the Hizb-ul-Mujahedin, the Harkat-ul-Mujahedin and the Jaish-e-Mohammed among others. Rich in the rhetoric of jihadi violence, the meeting averred that notwithstanding the Mumbai attack, jihad could not be stopped by the imposing of bans on groups such as the Lashkar-e-Taiba. Media reports indicate that the local administration made no attempt to either prevent the meeting from being held, or apprehend those who were openly inciting violence.

Both these acts of defiance took place against the backdrop of continued terrorist intimidation, sectarian killings and an admission of loss of faith in the Pakistani judicial system. While the Swat valley has been over-run by the neo-Taliban, a group of worshippers were killed Feb 5 in a suicide bombing attack outside a Shia mosque in Dera Ghazi Khan in central Punjab. And to add insult to injury, the visiting UN Secretary General informed his Pakistani hosts that the UN would constitute a three-man commission to inquire into the assassination of former former prime minister Benazir Bhutto. It is instructive that a PPP spokesman added that the "findings of the (UN) commission will lead to eventually exposing the financers, perpetrators, organisers, sponsors and conspirators of the terrorist act and bring them to justice". Incidentally, it is these very objectives that India is seeking as regards the Mumbai terror carnage.

Be that as it may, it is evident that Pakistani President Asif Zardari and the PPP do not have confidence in the prevailing investigative cum judicial capacity within the country to get to the bottom of the killing of their leader and hence the recourse to the UN. Liberal opinion within Pakistan is dismayed at the manner in which the state, guided by a shadowy but potent military presence, is either unable or unwilling to deal with the multiple transgressions that are either being condoned or tacitly supported - as in the case of the AQ Khan network or the state support to jihadi groups. Welcoming the UN intervention despite its implications for national sovereignty, it is instructive that the Daily Times, Lahore noted editorially Feb 6 : "The Commission may finally not get anywhere, but unlike many of Pakistan's own commissions in the past, the world will know where inside the machinery of the state - people are unwilling to answer questions. Finding that out will help the international community

determine the nature of terrorism incubating in Pakistan and threatening the outside world."

The nature of this terrorist threat was manifest in the Mumbai attack on Nov 26, 2008 and what India and the rest of the international community, whose citizens died in that incident are concerned about is the nature of the 'incubation' and the role of the Pakistani establishment in the process. State support to terrorism motivated by religious distortion, abetting nuclear proliferation and a strategy of defiance and denial by a deviant regime was the tripod on which the Bush administration unleashed its 2003 war against President Saddam Hussein and a hapless Iraq.

Clearly the wrong country had been implicated - and almost destroyed - while the real malignancy continued to thrive within Pakistan and has now permeated Afghanistan. The US and the international community that monitors Pakistan are not unaware of the murky truth that is embedded within the entrails of the Pakistani state. But a Faustian bargain had been struck by the US (and China) during the Cold War and the Pakistani military was encouraged to invest in jihad and acquire nuclear weapons.

From Ronald Reagan through to Bush II, the major power grid of the world turned a blind eye to the tangled transgressions of the Pak military. Those chickens are now coming home to roost on the Obama watch - and like the financial cum economic meltdown that he has to deal with - the new US president who is yet to complete a month in office will have to address this complex security challenge on a high-priority basis.

The current defiance of the Pakistani establishment only makes a difficult situation even more brittle on the eve of the Holbrook visit.

TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: india; iran; israel; pakistan

1 posted on 02/07/2009 10:14:46 AM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

“cocks a snook”?

2 posted on 02/07/2009 10:15:52 AM PST by Amelia
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To: Amelia
Phrase used in British/ Indian/ Australian/ NZ/ S. African circles.

Here's more info:

Cock a snook


A derisive gesture.


cock a snookIn trying to explain the origin of 'Cock a snook' it would be helpful to know what a snook is. Unfortunately we don't really. There is a species of fish called snook, but it isn't that, unless there's a form of derisive gesture that I've had too sheltered an upbringing to be aware of. A snook is also a promontory of jutting out land. That could have something to do with the gesture as it does involve sticking fingers out. Apart from this single phrase, snook isn't a word you would expect to hear very often. It is sometimes reported to be derived from snout, as in thumbing one's nose. That's possible but, although snout and snook are somewhat similar, why didn't they just 'cock a snout'. That term doesn't appear to be recorded.

The general understanding of what's meant by 'cock a snook' is the spread hand with thumb on the nose, preferably with crossed eyes, waggling fingers and any other annoying gesticulation that comes to mind at the time. It's what the Americans call 'the five-fingered salute'.

The use of cock is also difficult to explain. Again it might refer to the sticking out and turning up of the fingers. That would be in line with the term cocked-hat in which the brim is turned up jauntily. It could also be a reference to the shape of a cock's comb, which is rather like the shape of the gesture. It took some time for the gesture as we now know it to be established - various other forms were used in the past.

The first reference I can find that mentions the phrase is Wynne's Diary, 1791:

"They cock snooks at one on every occasion."

That gives no clue as to what was meant by the term. The next time we see it is in Augustus Hare's The story of my life, 1879:

"If I put my hands so ... (cutting a snooks), they might reproach me very much indeed."

This provides little more clarity. Is 'cutting a snooks' even the same thing? Then, in The Times, 1904, we have "The young monkey puts his tongue in his cheek and cocks a snook at you.", which makes no reference to any sort of hand gesture.

All in all, this is an odd phrase and we know precious little about its origin.


3 posted on 02/07/2009 10:19:40 AM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins
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To: Amelia

“British slang for making a contemptuous gesture with the thumb to the nose and the fingers spread

4 posted on 02/07/2009 10:21:58 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Yup. Rahm likes that one, too.

5 posted on 02/07/2009 10:25:18 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama dozed.....people froze.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins
Pakistan and the other rouge states can do what ever they want because Odumbo is not bothered about nuclear proliferation .

If Pak had done this during W's term he would have had some harsh words for them .

6 posted on 02/07/2009 10:29:46 AM PST by Indian_Fighter_Kite
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Cock a snook

Obama is good at using that.....

.....middle finger at Hillary

.....fist at the Republicans

.....deliberately NOT wearing a flag pin

.....deliberately NOT putting his hand over his heart for the Pledge of Allegiance

There are more to come from this punk.

7 posted on 02/07/2009 10:30:55 AM PST by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: Amelia

I say sir, did you bite your thumb?

Yes I bit my thumb!

Sir, did you bite your thumb AT ME!

(From Romeo and Juilet)

8 posted on 02/07/2009 10:52:37 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (14. Guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

OK, Barak. Over to you.

You can usre your Special Muslim Sauce today.

9 posted on 02/07/2009 10:54:18 AM PST by cookcounty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not why the ship is built, also." ---Governor Sarah Palin)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

Meanwhile, Barney Frank leaves this thread sad and disappointed...

10 posted on 02/07/2009 11:09:01 AM PST by Captainpaintball (I 'aint to blame...I voted McCain!)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

In Alabama it is illegal to cock a snook.

11 posted on 02/07/2009 12:28:59 PM PST by festus (Politics makes for strange bedfellows)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; justiceseeker93; ..

“what are the odds” topic:

A Q Khan could be on Mossad hit list
The Times of India | 8 Feb 2009, 0200 hrs IST | The Times of India
Posted on 02/08/2009 1:01:11 PM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins

12 posted on 02/09/2009 11:04:42 AM PST by SunkenCiv ( _____ it's February 2009! _____ do you know where JimRob is?)
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