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1 posted on 02/08/2009 4:48:12 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Imagine the sales as retailers would attempt to have you spend some of that money with them!

I would pay off debt first though.

The absolute right thing to do though is trash this bill and just lower our taxes.


2 posted on 02/08/2009 4:55:35 AM PST by snippy_about_it (The FReeper Foxhole. America's history, America's soul.)
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To: Kaslin

Theory vs. reality: Obama works for the unions, ACORN, the Chicago Machine, George Soros, whatever passes for the Marxist Internationale. He doesn’t work for us; certainly not in his own mind.


5 posted on 02/08/2009 5:08:24 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Kaslin
The simplest way to "stimulate the economy" would be to simply declare a federal tax holiday: That no federal income, FICA, or medicare taxes will be collected for a fixed period of time. This would be an immediate boon to the economy, since it would be felt immediately, or at least at the end of the next pay period. There would be no additional cost to the government, as there was with the last "stimulus" package, where we had the cost of printing and mailing the checks, as well as the poorly thought-out printing and mailing out of notices.

Even if it's only the FICA and medicare taxes that are put on holiday, that would be an immediate take home pay "increase" of nearly 8%, and it will reduce the cost of employment for every employee by 8% as well. For an employer, this could be the difference between having to let someone go versus being able to keep them on.

Mark

6 posted on 02/08/2009 5:10:26 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Kaslin

View and post your best guess when the election-deciding voters of Nov 2008 will change their mind.

WHEN WILL obama LOSE THE NOV 08 ELECTION?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2180901/posts


10 posted on 02/08/2009 5:15:48 AM PST by urtax$@work (The best kind of memorial is a Burning Memorial.........)
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Most people do not realize that 1.3 trillion dollars is more money than if you spent one million dollars a day since the birth of Christ right up to present day.

Astounding, and disgustingly perverted at the same time.

Our Founding Fathers are SPINNING VIOLENTLY in their graves.

11 posted on 02/08/2009 5:17:18 AM PST by DocH (Keep your powder dry and keep it in the black, fellow freedom-loving Patriots)
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To: Kaslin
President Obama's bad missteps this past week were confounded not by just horrendously partisan policy-making, but the arrogance with which he penned an op-ed in the Washington Post and gave a retreat address to House Democrats, some of whom are pleading with him not to pursue the federal spending and replace it with tax relief, or credits, or whatever Obama's term for it would be this go around.

That's it right there. I am sick to death of this mentality. Congress holds the purse strings. They are ultimately responsible for spending. If Congress doesn't want to spend the money, they can just say no. This cult of the presidency is just a convenient way for Congress to push off their responsibility.

13 posted on 02/08/2009 5:21:41 AM PST by pa_dweller (Absurdity is everywhere, you've just become inured to it.)
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To: Kaslin

Wrong, Obama is the King. We are the servants, get used to it.


17 posted on 02/08/2009 5:27:58 AM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: Kaslin

obama will never lose the 2008 election. Becaues the fools, idiots, and parasites who voted for him in droves do not have the intelligence to form independent thoughts and make judgments. The Republicans and President Bush will be the cause of their troubles. Because they contro; the education system, the Communists have finally got the United States given into their hand and they are about to pick it like a ripe plum.

In 2012 obama will win by an even bigger majority than he did in 2008.

Why? Three reasons.

1. More idiots will have been run through the indoctrination system a/k/a the education system to vote for him.

2 The Republicans will nominate another token candidate.

3.Death will have claimed a lot of Conservatives that are living today. This reason probably be a big a factor as reasons 1 and 2 because most of the older individuals I have talked with voted for obama”So I can be able to retire and get free health care”.

Over the next few months obama will be consoladiting his power and going after his political enemies and those he believes will oppose him.


19 posted on 02/08/2009 5:37:41 AM PST by sport
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To: Kaslin

I would love to get a check for $4-5,000. I would use it to pay back taxes that I owe.


26 posted on 02/08/2009 6:42:50 AM PST by shaft29 (Just your typical black woman.)
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I went into an Apple Store yesterday, and there were two young women in front of me gushing with excitement over getting a stimulus check from the government and what they were going to buy with it.

I thought about how I would have approached the subject with people I know, and I was stumped.

Perhaps I might have tried the approach: “You FOOLS! This is YOUR money they are giving back to you that they took away from you in the first place!”

Or vent on this level: “You don’t even make enough money to cover what you have put in via taxes to cover what you are getting! THEY ARE TAKING TAX MONEY FROM ME AND MY FAMILY TO GIVE TO YOU SO YOU CAN BUY IPODS!”

Or even more to the point: “Don’t you dummies understand that this money doesn’t just get printed and distributed to you. It has to come from somewhere, whether the government borrows money to be paid back with interest or a pound of flesh is taken out of all of us with the hyperinflation that is coming as a result of throwing all this money with no backing into the economy!”

At that point, it occurred to me: They simply don’t care.

Obama is a racist who spent twenty years listening to anti-American racist pap in a racist “church” and gave large sums of money to that “church”.

People don’t care.

Obama is an associate of a virulent anti-American radical terrorist, a member of a group who killed AMERICANS with bombs, who wished he had done more violence, whose most public moments in print are accompanied by a picture of him proudly and triumphantly standing on top of an American flag, the same flag I and my father served under, and my father was buried under. This man is one of Obama’s principal patrons, who by his own admission is “guilty as sin-free as a bird”, and quite proud of that.

People don’t care.

Obama is corrupt to the core, steered money towards his family (wife) and friends.

People don’t care.

Obama is an avowed socialist who believes in redistribution of wealth.

People don’t care.

Obama thinks higher taxes are the way to fix our problems.

People don’t care.

Obama thinks higher gasoline prices are good for us.

People don’t care.

Obama thinks guns should be banned.

People don’t care.

Obama is a devotee of Saul Alinsky’s techniques as described in “Rules for Radicals”, one of the most disgusting things I have ever read.

People don’t care.

I am disheartened about this past election in ways I simply cannot describe, but most depressing and discouraging for me is that I worked hard as a citizen to understand the issues. I made the effort to evaluate and re-evaluate my stand on issues and make sure they were backed by logic and consistent with what was best for our nation.

My vote was trumped and negated by a damned ignorant idiot who came to the conclusion Obama was going to pay for her mortgage and her gasoline.

These two young women I saw in line at the Apple Store could not care less either. They want a piece of pie, and could not care less who “gives” it to them. They, and many other American voters don’t understand the adage “If something seems to good to be true, it probably isn’t.”

It is time for them to start sucking at the government teat. Which is EXACTLY what people like the radicals in charge want.


29 posted on 02/08/2009 7:26:23 AM PST by rlmorel ("A barrel of monkeys is not fun. In fact, a barrel of monkeys can be quite terrifying!")
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To: Kaslin

He needs to enslave us under a mountain of debt. That’s how Communist Dictators control the masses.

Pray for America, Our Troops and obama’s Guidance


32 posted on 02/08/2009 7:53:31 AM PST by bray (The District of Corruption fits Obama like a Glove)
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To: Kaslin
The Federal government has been taken over by a foreign coup. There is no current valid President, no executive branch, and no responsibility to pretend that there is. Don't pay it, don't bow to it, don't do anything but starve, jam, ridicule, and sabotage it.

We are going to have to fight to re-establish our Republic, because it has been overthrown by a Marxist coup. The coup must be destroyed.

34 posted on 02/08/2009 8:29:03 AM PST by Starfleet Command
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Bookmark.


36 posted on 02/08/2009 9:34:26 AM PST by upchuck (I'm glad I'm old. Thus I can remember when America was a decent, moral, God fearing country.)
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A number like 1.3 trillion is hard to visualize.

If you had a stack of 1.3 trillion donuts, each of them one inch thick, the stack would be about 20 million miles high.

37 posted on 02/08/2009 10:20:49 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Kaslin

Unfortunately many of the “tax breaks” and “tax refunds” are for people who don’t pay taxes. In this bill, even illegals will get a stimulus check.


40 posted on 02/08/2009 12:30:13 PM PST by Snow Eagle
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