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Guest warns against Big Brother, Real ID (also -HCR 13 reclaims Missouriís sovereignty
St, Joe News ^ | 2/11/9 | Alyson E. Raletz

Posted on 02/11/2009 6:34:51 PM PST by do the dhue

JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. — The leader of a movement against national driver’s licenses promoted legislation Tuesday that would prompt a showdown between the states and the federal government.

While some lawmakers alluded to fears of the Federal Real ID Act of 2005 as conspiracy theories, state Rep. Jim Guest, R-King City, warned that requirements that could come down from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security would put Missourians’ identities at risk, pointing to easily scannable biometric technology.

“We do not need Big Brother watching us and knowing where we are,” Mr. Guest said.

*SNIP*

Also Tuesday, Mr. Guest proposed a resolution (HCR 13) that reclaims Missouri’s sovereignty under the U.S. Constitution’s Tenth Amendment, arguing that the national government issues too many federal mandates.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; missouri; realid; sovereignty
Gettin more interesting by the day.

To bad most Americans are sleeping.

1 posted on 02/11/2009 6:34:51 PM PST by do the dhue
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To: ForGod'sSake

ping


2 posted on 02/11/2009 6:37:24 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: Bag

ping


3 posted on 02/11/2009 6:40:51 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: do the dhue

I hand delivered a letter concerning this measure to my State Rep. two days ago, then at a luncheon today handed a copy of New Hampshire’s bill to another State official and asked him to have it considered.


4 posted on 02/11/2009 6:43:18 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: YellowRoseofTx

I’ve sent three emails to my State Rep and have not received a single reply.


5 posted on 02/11/2009 6:45:05 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: do the dhue
While some lawmakers alluded to fears of the Federal Real ID Act of 2005 as conspiracy theories

That conspiracy theory claim ranks right up there with calling someone racist as a means of shutting an argument down.
6 posted on 02/11/2009 6:46:52 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek

You got it!


7 posted on 02/11/2009 6:47:55 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: do the dhue

When I handed the copy of the bill to the official today, he opened it, glanced at the top, re-folded it and from what he said sounded like he was well aware of it. I don’t know it that is a good sign or not. I’m hoping.


8 posted on 02/11/2009 6:49:28 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: do the dhue

A conspiracy theory is claiming there was no moon landing or that there are secret military bases on the moon. This is a legitimate concern.


9 posted on 02/11/2009 6:50:18 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek

but, but, but THE GOVERNMENT IS YOUR FRIEND!! [/sarc]


10 posted on 02/11/2009 6:55:13 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: YellowRoseofTx

Hard to say what is on their mind. Some of these Reps may not have political capital to burn. So, this kind of stuff may rattle their cage some.


11 posted on 02/11/2009 6:55:25 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: cripplecreek
I concur. The problem is most Americans are to concerned with who is the next American Idol. They don't care to know about the legitimate concerns. And their lack of concern puts all of us and our rights in jeopardy.
12 posted on 02/11/2009 6:58:13 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: cripplecreek

What are you, some kind of racist conspiracy theorist???


13 posted on 02/11/2009 7:00:12 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Nihil utile nisi quod honestum - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

And a protectionist isolationist too. Musn’t forget those. LOL


14 posted on 02/11/2009 7:04:21 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

lol


15 posted on 02/11/2009 7:04:40 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: cripplecreek

lol - stop or you will start a rumor!


16 posted on 02/11/2009 7:11:05 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: do the dhue; YellowRoseofTx

I did the same with the NH bill, my state senator’s aid replied, ‘thanks for the info’. My senator is a true blue conservative (he hangs out at our dump once in a while on a Saturday to talk to us). I’m sure he read it and is up on this stuff. Dittos on my state rep, no answer though, but he’s another true conservative. I also sent a copy to Sensenbrenner. I’m certain they love us!


17 posted on 02/11/2009 7:11:40 PM PST by Indy Pendance (Abortion: It's not for the young anymore)
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To: Indy Pendance

I don’t know if you are from Indy or not, but Indiana is a State considering Sovereignty.


18 posted on 02/11/2009 7:16:13 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: do the dhue

Nope, Wisconsin. Indy is a nickname. We live in a conservative enclave. Actually, our county had the biggest vote for Palin, 65%. Our gov, Doyle, was one of the first (maybe Arnold was first) to go to Washington begging for money. It’s truly breathtaking how the dems are pandering.


19 posted on 02/11/2009 7:19:57 PM PST by Indy Pendance (Abortion: It's not for the young anymore)
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To: do the dhue

really? because I live in Indiana-who’s sponsoring it?

I know that Senator Walker (my home Senator-41 Columbus/BC) is sponsoring the “Honest Money Act” in the Senate, but I’d like to know who’s sponsoring a Sovereignty Resolution here.


20 posted on 02/11/2009 7:30:19 PM PST by JSDude1 (R(epublicans) In Name Only SUCK; D(emocrats) In Name Only are worth their weight..)
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To: do the dhue

New Hampshire did something like Missiouri
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislation/2009/HCR0006.html


21 posted on 02/11/2009 7:35:32 PM PST by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: JSDude1
http://www.fontcraft.com/rod/?p=849

As things stand right now it looks like Oklahoma, Washington, Hawaii, Missouri, Arizona, New Hampshire, Georgia, California, Michigan and Montana will all definitely consider sovereignty bills this year. They may be joined by Arkansas, Colorado, Idaho, Indiana, Alaska, Kansas, Alabama, Nevada, Maine and Pennsylvania where legislators have pledged to introduce similar bills. Twenty states standing up to the federal government and demanding a return to constitutional principles is a great start, but it remains to be seen whether legislatures and governors are brave enough or angry enough to follow through. As the Obama administration and the Democratic Congress push for more expansion of federal power and spending that may help provide the motivation needed for the sovereignty movement to take off.

22 posted on 02/11/2009 7:44:00 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: freema

Yup.


23 posted on 02/11/2009 7:46:23 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: do the dhue
This is the type of revolution we need -- one that restores the U.S. Constitution to its rightful place, and thus respects the rights of the States.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people" - Amendment X of the U.S. Constitution

I've been quoting Amendment X along with Article I, Section 8 extensively lately, especially to people who seem to think that the federal government is the answer to all of our problems. When you read the following, it becomes clear that the government IS the problem:

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Article I, Section 8. "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish post offices and post roads;

To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;--And

To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof."

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Now, imagine how much more liberty we would have if the U.S. Congress would follow the above prescription, and leave the rest to the States?

Federal taxes would be much lower, and if an individual State began to tax too much, the laws of capitalism would kick in -- they either would have to scale back or lose residents.

United States citizens could also decide whether they agreed with the policies of their state, and if not, they would be free to move. Then, they could wait until that former state began to crumble under liberalism. No more federal laws which seek to make every state alike -- no more push for the "United Nation of America" (which is what the Left is all about).

I've heard the false argument uttered, "Well, what about slavery? You go back to states' rights, you go back to slavery." Since slavery is prohibited under Amendment XIII, it is not a power that's reserved to a State. It's not a valid argument.

Following Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution leads to "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness!"

24 posted on 02/11/2009 7:46:39 PM PST by scott7278 (It's going to be a rough four years on the good ship Obamapop.)
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To: scott7278
Excellent post. Thank you.

Now, imagine how much more liberty we would have if the U.S. Congress would follow the above prescription, and leave the rest to the States? That is what our forefathers had in mind, otherwise we wouldn't have had States. Just one big State.

25 posted on 02/11/2009 7:51:25 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: do the dhue

This is my neighboring rep. He is a real asshat. The county party donated to his challenger. So, this is surprising to me. Maybe the cold shoulder by the party opened his eyes... nah, never happen. I can support him on this and will be letting my friends in Jeff City know that too.


26 posted on 02/11/2009 9:42:17 PM PST by buschbaby (still bitterly clinging to the American dream....)
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To: do the dhue
A quick scan of this one shows Mizzou dealing with some specific items, ie, national ID as yet another edict handed down from the D.C. Mount...

Click the 10th Amendment button for all articles tagged with keyword "10thamendment"



I continue to add names to the ping list as I run across others I find participating on similar. If you want off the list just say so.

27 posted on 02/11/2009 10:07:12 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: A lie will travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its shoes on!)
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