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More details about the West Allis Brad Krause case. It turns out the neighbor wasn't even upset with Brad, he just wanted clarification if it was legal to openly carry a gun in Wisconsin. Because Brad was exercising his right under the Wisconsin Constitution, the officer explained that he was involved in disorderly conduct.

Wow! It will be very interesting to see what happens at the hearing tomorrow!

1 posted on 02/16/2009 7:19:15 PM PST by marktwain
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-bflr-


2 posted on 02/16/2009 7:22:47 PM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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BTTT for tomorrows read !


3 posted on 02/16/2009 7:23:13 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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It sounds as if the judge is sympathetic to Krause from the brief description of his questions.


4 posted on 02/16/2009 7:24:31 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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With Gestapo tactics like this, the judge using the Nazi flag as an example seems rather appropriate.

There must be some recompense in the future for Mr. Krause, I hope.


6 posted on 02/16/2009 7:25:22 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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“Disorderly conduct”
Fascist catch-all, something like “conduct detrimental to the state.”


7 posted on 02/16/2009 7:28:32 PM PST by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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Over zealous police + over zealous politicians = why we need The 2nd Amendment.


8 posted on 02/16/2009 7:29:24 PM PST by DTogo (Time to bring back the Sons of Liberty.)
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The neighbor is a dumb ass. Has he never heard of google?


9 posted on 02/16/2009 7:29:25 PM PST by garyhope (It's world war IV, right here, right now courtesy of Islam. VRWC. TWP.)
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Sounds like the cops were the only ones being disorderly that day. I wonder if they are immune? Might make for an interesting countersuit. I hope Krause bankrupts that municipality when all is said and done. Malicious prosecution simply to cover a mistake, false arrest, swearing out a false affidavit (if the cops' testimony contridicts any of the paperwork). Nail ’em, Brad!
10 posted on 02/16/2009 7:30:14 PM PST by NonValueAdded (May God save America from its government)
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Here’s hoping Krause walks and the officer is relieved of his duty, or at the very least, put on probation for a while.


11 posted on 02/16/2009 7:30:21 PM PST by arderkrag (Liberty Walking (www.geocities.com/arderkrag))
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He testified that "Mr. Krause" is a nice guy, they get along fine, and..."

Be my guess that "get along fine" business is over and done with.

12 posted on 02/16/2009 7:31:50 PM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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"The prosecution admitted into evidence a small semi-automatic handgun, positive retention holster, and self-defense ammunition, each item being the type of equipment police officers are known to use for their own protection, not the sort of thing criminals tend to carry"

That's irrelevant. Open carry is a constitutional right regardless of the name brand of the firearm. Many policeman have carried concealed, cheap stainless steel .380s, because some of them are long lasting and don't rust.

"He testified that "Mr. Krause" is a nice guy, they get along fine, and the first time they met was when "Mr. Krause" came over to help him dig his car out of the snow. There was no sign of animosity between the neighbors who apparently are still on a first-name basis."

That's also irrelevant, if he wasn't using the weapon to threaten his neighbor.

13 posted on 02/16/2009 7:31:54 PM PST by familyop (As painful as the global laxative might be, maybe our "one world" needs a good cleaning.)
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"The judge questioned the prosecutor at length about the right to expression,..."

...way irrelevant! ...wrong Amendment!


15 posted on 02/16/2009 7:37:00 PM PST by familyop (As painful as the global laxative might be, maybe our "one world" needs a good cleaning.)
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"Because Brad was exercising his right under the Wisconsin Constitution, the officer explained that he was involved in disorderly conduct."

Too bad there isn't a mandatory IQ test to become a LEO.

17 posted on 02/16/2009 7:39:15 PM PST by Natural Law
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I’ve never known a cop that claims to be a law expert. THey just do the best they can and let the judge sort it out.


22 posted on 02/16/2009 7:40:45 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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Stupid man. Actually thought his legal rights meant anything ... anything at all.

You are all slaves. Work harder and meet your quotas or you will not receive your food ration!


27 posted on 02/16/2009 7:45:30 PM PST by gost2
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ping


28 posted on 02/16/2009 7:45:59 PM PST by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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He probably did not have a permit to dig hole, disturbing the watershed, mitigated by planting tree to decrease his carbon footprint.


29 posted on 02/16/2009 7:47:53 PM PST by Jumpmaster (America's epitaph: We were politically correct!)
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Sue the city and sell the house to anyone who looks like they are going to be in trouble with the police on a weekly basis.

Let Mrs. Kravitz(yeah, I know the punk is a male) learn to mind his own d@mned business in as painful a way as possible. Being woke up by a domestic call every 3 am would just about do it.

Besides, if you win the case, the police/city are likely to make your life less than pleasant if you stay.


30 posted on 02/16/2009 7:50:15 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg
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Officer 2: "Yes, I drew my gun and pointed it at him."

Attorney: "And why is that?"

Officer 2: "Because he was armed."

I'm sure the good people of your city will remember that when you come to investigate any "unregistered" firearms. Good for you should be good for them. Or do you plan on coming to their houses unarmed, Mr. Officer 2. (Doesn't the guy have a name?)

32 posted on 02/16/2009 7:50:51 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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Maybe he was planting the Tree of Liberty.


34 posted on 02/16/2009 7:53:51 PM PST by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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