More details about the West Allis Brad Krause case. It turns out the neighbor wasn't even upset with Brad, he just wanted clarification if it was legal to openly carry a gun in Wisconsin. Because Brad was exercising his right under the Wisconsin Constitution, the officer explained that he was involved in disorderly conduct.
Wow! It will be very interesting to see what happens at the hearing tomorrow!
1 posted on
02/16/2009 7:19:15 PM PST by
marktwain
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To: marktwain
2 posted on
02/16/2009 7:22:47 PM PST by
rellimpank
(--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
To: marktwain
BTTT for tomorrows read !
3 posted on
02/16/2009 7:23:13 PM PST by
Squantos
(Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
To: marktwain
It sounds as if the judge is sympathetic to Krause from the brief description of his questions.
To: marktwain
With Gestapo tactics like this, the judge using the Nazi flag as an example seems rather appropriate.
There must be some recompense in the future for Mr. Krause, I hope.
6 posted on
02/16/2009 7:25:22 PM PST by
PubliusMM
(RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
To: marktwain
“Disorderly conduct”
Fascist catch-all, something like “conduct detrimental to the state.”
7 posted on
02/16/2009 7:28:32 PM PST by
atomic conspiracy
(Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
To: marktwain
Over zealous police + over zealous politicians = why we need The 2nd Amendment.
8 posted on
02/16/2009 7:29:24 PM PST by
DTogo
(Time to bring back the Sons of Liberty.)
To: marktwain
The neighbor is a dumb ass. Has he never heard of google?
9 posted on
02/16/2009 7:29:25 PM PST by
garyhope
(It's world war IV, right here, right now courtesy of Islam. VRWC. TWP.)
To: marktwain
Sounds like the cops were the only ones being disorderly that day. I wonder if they are immune? Might make for an interesting countersuit. I hope Krause bankrupts that municipality when all is said and done. Malicious prosecution simply to cover a mistake, false arrest, swearing out a false affidavit (if the cops' testimony contridicts any of the paperwork). Nail ’em, Brad!
10 posted on
02/16/2009 7:30:14 PM PST by
NonValueAdded
(May God save America from its government)
To: marktwain
Here’s hoping Krause walks and the officer is relieved of his duty, or at the very least, put on probation for a while.
11 posted on
02/16/2009 7:30:21 PM PST by
arderkrag
(Liberty Walking (www.geocities.com/arderkrag))
To: marktwain
He testified that "Mr. Krause" is a nice guy, they get along fine, and..."Be my guess that "get along fine" business is over and done with.
12 posted on
02/16/2009 7:31:50 PM PST by
Redbob
(W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
To: marktwain
"The prosecution admitted into evidence a small semi-automatic handgun, positive retention holster, and self-defense ammunition, each item being the type of equipment police officers are known to use for their own protection, not the sort of thing criminals tend to carry"
That's irrelevant. Open carry is a constitutional right regardless of the name brand of the firearm. Many policeman have carried concealed, cheap stainless steel .380s, because some of them are long lasting and don't rust.
"He testified that "Mr. Krause" is a nice guy, they get along fine, and the first time they met was when "Mr. Krause" came over to help him dig his car out of the snow. There was no sign of animosity between the neighbors who apparently are still on a first-name basis."
That's also irrelevant, if he wasn't using the weapon to threaten his neighbor.
13 posted on
02/16/2009 7:31:54 PM PST by
familyop
(As painful as the global laxative might be, maybe our "one world" needs a good cleaning.)
To: marktwain
"The judge questioned the prosecutor at length about the right to expression,..."
...way irrelevant! ...wrong Amendment!
15 posted on
02/16/2009 7:37:00 PM PST by
familyop
(As painful as the global laxative might be, maybe our "one world" needs a good cleaning.)
To: marktwain
"Because Brad was exercising his right under the Wisconsin Constitution, the officer explained that he was involved in disorderly conduct." Too bad there isn't a mandatory IQ test to become a LEO.
To: marktwain
I’ve never known a cop that claims to be a law expert. THey just do the best they can and let the judge sort it out.
To: marktwain
Stupid man. Actually thought his legal rights meant anything ... anything at all.
You are all slaves. Work harder and meet your quotas or you will not receive your food ration!
27 posted on
02/16/2009 7:45:30 PM PST by
gost2
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28 posted on
02/16/2009 7:45:59 PM PST by
kalee
(01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
To: marktwain
He probably did not have a permit to dig hole, disturbing the watershed, mitigated by planting tree to decrease his carbon footprint.
29 posted on
02/16/2009 7:47:53 PM PST by
Jumpmaster
(America's epitaph: We were politically correct!)
To: marktwain
Sue the city and sell the house to anyone who looks like they are going to be in trouble with the police on a weekly basis.
Let Mrs. Kravitz(yeah, I know the punk is a male) learn to mind his own d@mned business in as painful a way as possible. Being woke up by a domestic call every 3 am would just about do it.
Besides, if you win the case, the police/city are likely to make your life less than pleasant if you stay.
To: marktwain
Officer 2: "Yes, I drew my gun and pointed it at him."
Attorney: "And why is that?"
Officer 2: "Because he was armed." I'm sure the good people of your city will remember that when you come to investigate any "unregistered" firearms. Good for you should be good for them. Or do you plan on coming to their houses unarmed, Mr. Officer 2. (Doesn't the guy have a name?)
32 posted on
02/16/2009 7:50:51 PM PST by
El Gato
("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
To: marktwain
Maybe he was planting the Tree of Liberty.
34 posted on
02/16/2009 7:53:51 PM PST by
Sender
(It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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