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Don't blame me, I voted for Ron Paul Part II
The New Jersey Star-Ledger ^ | February 14, 2009 | Paul Mulshine

Posted on 02/17/2009 3:07:30 AM PST by King of Card Games

How quickly they forget.

All these dupes of the national Republican Party, I mean.

Just a few months ago John McCain was promising a plan that would have created a budget deficit equal to or greater than the one now being created by Barack Obama.

But now that it's Obama who's in the White House, the Beltway Republicans are trying to convince us that they've seen the light and converted to fiscal conservatism.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.nj.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2009; lping; mulshine; paul; paulmulshine; ronpaul
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To: djsherin; King of Card Games; A.Hun; livius; LibLieSlayer; rabscuttle385; Gondring

djsherin ,I see you attract the Bush/McCain-bots who jump in your posts to attack Paul. It’s so ironic that the major complaint about Paul is that he was against any involvement of the US in the Middle East. Yet it was Bush leading congress, having is own party for 5-6 years, that bankrupted the nation and our greatly hurt our status as a world power. (and he gave us Pelosi 2006 and then Obama 2008 with a socialist mandate.) Read James Dale Davidsons 1980s book, the “Great Reckoning ‘. World powers are always destroyed and replaced when they bankrupt themselves with multiple wars and welfare spending at the same time(with broad based tax cuts and rebates). It was England before us. So Bush is more responsible than even democrats for our destruction which is why he is blamed by most of public. Ron Paul followers (I was not one) had nothing to do with it and if anything warned us.


41 posted on 02/17/2009 5:41:26 AM PST by sickoflibs (Keynesian Economics : "If you won't spend your money WE WILL!")
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To: King of Card Games
the Beltway Republicans are trying to convince us that they've seen the light and converted to fiscal conservatism

Yeah, right....I'll believe THAT when pigs start flying.

42 posted on 02/17/2009 5:44:14 AM PST by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: sickoflibs
Yet it was Bush leading congress, having is own party for 5-6 years, that bankrupted the nation and our greatly hurt our status as a world power.

Pure, unadulterated BS. I suppose you would have preferred us joining the ICC, kissing Saddam's ass, and trying to understand the "reasons those poor terrorists attacked us".

You know, we had over four years of astounding growth and good economic times....the housing market crash and Fannie Mae were not GWB or the Republicans fault. They tried to regulate FM/FM and were stopped by the Dems. Greenspan and the Federal Reserve set interests rates and money supply.

43 posted on 02/17/2009 5:49:26 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun
“We’re doomed now....in part thanks to short sighted, Donner Party “conservatives”.”

I hope you're dead wrong. Arguing about the *faux* election we just experienced will get us nowhere and plays right into the hands of the International Socialist Elite who are making their latest power play.

My suggestion; forget about this political distraction and take a stand against the real problem.

44 posted on 02/17/2009 5:50:54 AM PST by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: King of Card Games

If it were up to Ron Paul all of our troops would be home right now and we would have lost the War, which would certainly be friendly to our enemies. I will never forgive him for being a first class idiot.


45 posted on 02/17/2009 5:52:41 AM PST by ohioman
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To: A.Hun

That's a pretty good description of the GOP these days, isn't it? Oh well...they have no one to blame but themselves when they nominate a globalist/illegal alien-supporting RINO like John McCain as their choice for President, is it not?

46 posted on 02/17/2009 5:53:04 AM PST by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: Dead Corpse

His isolationist, “war is NEVER the answer” stupidity will get us exterminated as a culture and nation.......

This is NOT 1790.......


47 posted on 02/17/2009 5:57:41 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: wolfcreek
My suggestion; forget about this political distraction and take a stand against the real problem.

No wolf, I'm sorry, but we are totally and permanently screwed. We will never have anywhere close to enough votes to overturn what the Dems will do in the next two years.

Economically, its even worse. We are facing a complete failure of our economic system and we put people in charge that will answer it with communism. The worse the economy gets, the more powerful the Dems will get.

We gave them control of the money....regardless of how much is spent, the most important thing was WHO IS DOING THE SPENDING. Porkulus is the proof....the amount is disgusting, but who they gave the money to is worse.

48 posted on 02/17/2009 5:58:30 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: wolfcreek
Paul was right? Really. Paul wanted to surrender to al Qaeda. Paul would do nothing to stop them from severing your head or setting off a Nuke in this country ad since you blindly support him, I would shove you and other Paulnuts to the front of the line in front of the women and children.
49 posted on 02/17/2009 5:58:34 AM PST by utahson
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To: A.Hun
There is a world of difference between Republicans and Democrats politically....if the last month hasn’t shown that to you, you are willfully blind.

They are. They still sit around and stew, continually blaming everyone on our side who is not a pure Paulist, railing angrier and angrier with any Republican,yelling RINO at every opportunity, while the dems happily push our country into oblivion.

Then, of course, they get even angrier at the Republicans.....

50 posted on 02/17/2009 6:01:31 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: ChrisInAR

The GOP is irrelevant because of conservative morons that could not see beyond their pet issue. They spent their time destroying Republicans instead of fighting our true enemy...

DEMOCRATS.


51 posted on 02/17/2009 6:01:32 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun

“Yep, they sure supported him on Porkulus. “

Sure, McCain couldn’t get back to DC fast enough to get the bailout bill pushed thru. Then he merely thought Obama and the socialists should reduce the stimulus package somewhat. Then Graham wants to keep the concept of nationalizing the banking industry on the table.

uh huh! Big differences!


52 posted on 02/17/2009 6:01:44 AM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: Lakeshark
They are. They still sit around and stew, continually blaming everyone on our side who is not a pure Paulist, railing angrier and angrier with any Republican,yelling RINO at every opportunity, while the dems happily push our country into oblivion.

To get up this morning, on the day Obama is going to sign Porkulus, and see this posted....was just too much to take. Mrs. Hun came running in here to see what all the cursing was about.....

53 posted on 02/17/2009 6:04:38 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: takenoprisoner

In case you haven’t noticed, the 350 billion bailout kept our banking system from having already failed.

The national banks will be nationalized...that is the only way to save them, and we have to have a utility for handling loans and investments. Graham is at least smart enough to recognize it.

The bad thing is that Marxists will be calling the shots now instead of conservatives that found themselves in a terrible economic spot.


54 posted on 02/17/2009 6:09:22 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: wolfcreek
Ron Paul never saw this nation for what it is/was. He could not comprehend what it literally meant for US to be the ‘lone’ superpower of this world in this time. He does NOT know how or what it means for and to the rest of the ‘free’ world to lead.

Now I will not disagree there are few degrees of separation between McCain think and self admitted liberal think and I did vote against him by the time my state held the primary. I actually voted for Sarah as at the time had McCain pick lying Liberman I would not have voted for a presidential candidate, only for down the line conservatives.

McCain assisted in the media deception of making George Bush the devil incarnate and for that he reaped his own reward. Yet notice McCain is now in campaign mode to keep his most coveted Senate Club of 100 seat, as he came out against Bama’s bailout. Back when he could have shown many degrees of separation when the bankers bailout bill was demanded he went with the flow.

Why is it that self proclaimed liberals spewing their deceptive flood of lies never seem to get the RonPaul supporters attention first. RonPaul and his political views regarding finally taking a stand against the barbaric uncivilized terrorist made him more liberal than even McCain.

55 posted on 02/17/2009 6:17:16 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: A.Hun; djsherin; rabscuttle385; Gondring
RE :” I suppose you would have preferred us joining the ICC, kissing Saddam's ass, and trying to understand the “reasons those poor terrorists attacked us”.

Looking back I would rather have Saddam in power NOW than a bankrupt US nation, a near depression, and Pelosi and Obama in complete power with a mandate for socialism,leaving terms capitalism and conservatism a joke, gifts from GW (WMDs-Stimulus-bailout-debt doesn't matter) Bush and his so called messages from his Father.

RE : “You know, we had over four years of astounding growth and good economic times....

That is what I call the Hannity fantasy world. He still repeats it and gets laughed at by guests. There was NO economic growth! None! It was phony asset bubble of paper values based on foreign debt and printed money. It lured many good people (and bad people) into buying/invested at inflated values they will never see again, And now the government is borrowing/printing trillions more to paper over those losses with a socialistic takeover of our private economy.

Lastly, recently we have seen Republicans stand together against democrats. To do that they had to repudiate the GWB policies of “Don't worry about debt, the future is NOW(my election 2004=now)!”

56 posted on 02/17/2009 6:17:20 AM PST by sickoflibs (Keynesian Economics : "If you won't spend your money WE WILL!")
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To: A.Hun
Yeah, it was a good thing they taught the republicans all a lesson in 06 and 08......

I feel so much better.

57 posted on 02/17/2009 6:17:45 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: sickoflibs
Lastly, recently we have seen Republicans stand together against democrats. To do that they had to repudiate the GWB policies of “Don't worry about debt, the future is NOW(my election 2004=now)!”

But so many want us to just overlook that little fact.

58 posted on 02/17/2009 6:19:08 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: sickoflibs; djsherin; bamahead
djsherin ,I see you attract the Bush/McCain-bots who jump in your posts to attack Paul. It’s so ironic that the major complaint about Paul is that he was against any involvement of the US in the Middle East.

Good grief, guys. This thread is swarming with Bushbots, McCainiacs, and Party Firsters.

You know, if spreading democracy in Iraq at gunpoint using our armed forces is so wonderful, then why not apply the same methods here? What's good for the goose is good for the gander; yet, those same Freepers who adamantly favor using our armed forces to conduct exercises in social engineering abroad are also adamantly against allowing our Government to run amok at home. [Well, most of them are, at least, the ones who have been indoctrinated. The ones who haven't are in favor of more Big Government bailouts and amnesties. And that interventionist way of thinking is decidedly not "conservative"; it is more...fascist, or what we call "liberal," than anything else.]

As a conservative, I am opposed to anything that expands the scope and the powers of Federal Government beyond the boundaries expressly and explicitly defined within the Constitution, the original "contract with America."

In the meantime, the confusion over what constitutes conservatism is a consequence of conservatives, primarily within the Republican Party, stupidly allowing themselves to be dragged leftward, inch by inch, over the years and the decades.

59 posted on 02/17/2009 6:27:16 AM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: A.Hun
Damn good analogy!

LLS

60 posted on 02/17/2009 6:27:44 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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