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Alan Keyes stokes Obama birth certificate controversy
LA Times ^ | 2/21/09 | LA Times

Posted on 02/21/2009 4:25:09 PM PST by FreeManN

Alan Keyes stokes Obama birth certificate controversy The controversy over the validity of Barack Obama's birth certificate is back on a burner with firebrand conservative Alan Keyes making serious new charges.

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To: RipSawyer
The fact is we have a constitutionally unqualified man in office.

Amen.

61 posted on 02/21/2009 5:53:30 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Kansas58
Frank Marshall Davis, the communist, MIGHT be his father.
Maybe THAT is what Obama wants to hide?
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Odd that you said that, I was just sitting here talking to friends and they said the same thing.
There aren't that many things on a BC. If it embarrasses him then he has to have LIED about something. It may be the father, maybe he was adopted. Maybe his grandmother was really his mother and that's why grandma raised Barry but not his sister.
Surely birth weight, things like that would not be embarrassing. Or is the embarrassment thing an excuse to not have it revealed.
Regardless, this man is a mystery man and he is RULING and I mean RULING OUR country. He will bring it down, that is his goal.
62 posted on 02/21/2009 5:56:36 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: Texas Eagle

Hey. Either we believe God is in control or we don’t.
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I believe that God can’t do it all. That puts some burdens in our hands and trusts that we will help him.


63 posted on 02/21/2009 6:00:41 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: Texas Eagle

No. Just don’t become a kook about it.
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Please don’t call me a kook. I’m not the type of person that buys into conspiracy theories. I don’t believe in UFO’s, ghosts, black cats are bad luck, the number 13 is something to be afraid of, etc. But I am a logical thinker and when things just do not add up and I smell a rat, I won’t let it go, I want an answer. All he has to do is show the damn BC. End it. He won’t and why? His aim is to destroy our Republic. Why does he want to do that? WHY? and who is he really? He can put all the rumors to rest in 24 hours. Instead he hires teams of lawyers that try to stop it from being shown. WHY????


64 posted on 02/21/2009 6:05:26 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: Texas Eagle

Shauna Daly is new internet snoop and damage control expert.


65 posted on 02/21/2009 6:06:21 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: mojitojoe
I believe that God can’t do it all. That puts some burdens in our hands and trusts that we will help him.

Word.

But He's also not above (or should that be "below"?) giving us a flawed person to govern us as a way to get us back on the right track.

I'm no Bible scholar. Heck, I can barely stay awake during church.

But it seems to me King Saul had his detractors but, in the end, God kept him in power until He dethroned him, not the Beer Kadesh Times.

I'll have to read up on that.

66 posted on 02/21/2009 6:06:38 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: mojitojoe

Deliberately causing the collapse of our economy through wealth redistribution and seizures of private banks. Encouraging an anarchist style attack on our society by way of ACORN. Continued ignorance of border control in the face of a growing mexican civil war that will bring a rush of millions more. Importation of muslims at an alarming rate.

It’s a little hard to believe that this man has anything less than the total destruction of America as his goal.


67 posted on 02/21/2009 6:09:11 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: mojitojoe
Please don’t call me a kook.

I'm not calling you a kook. I said don't BECOME a kook.

I don't believe Alan Keyes is a kook (necessarily). My concern is that the LA Times is trying to portray Keyes as a kook and stir up kookery whereever and whenever it serves their purpose.

68 posted on 02/21/2009 6:10:40 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle
Shoot. Rahm!

Well that would be a good start

69 posted on 02/21/2009 6:16:36 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Obama says we should listen to our enemies, but not to Rush)
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To: FreeManN

Must Read, must see! ... the long form vault copy birth certificate!!!


70 posted on 02/21/2009 6:18:55 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: mojitojoe
Obama’s attorney uses that word, “embarrass” In Obama’s legal pleadings against the various law suits.
Not hard to find, on line.
http://www.obamacrimes.info/allcourtdocs.html

Look to the Obama replies. They refer to court rulings where embarrassment from discovery issues should be avoided until “standing” is established by the plaintiff.

I have seen a more clear cut statement, somewhere, but this will get you started. I will keep looking.

71 posted on 02/21/2009 6:22:52 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: Texas Eagle

Biden would be much better. He would become a PINO (President in Name Only) due to the fraud that put even him in office. He would merely serve as a placeholder throughout the remainder of the term. Even he would be smart enough to know that there would be absolutely NO mandate to carry on Obama’s policies.


72 posted on 02/21/2009 6:37:32 PM PST by scott7278 (It's time to rattle, folks! Don't tread on us!)
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To: mojitojoe

From the Obama briefs:

“Rule 26(c)(1) authorizes the Court to enter a protective order to protect a party
“from annoyance, embarrassment, oppression, or undue burden or expense,” including an
order forbidding the discovery or specifying terms for discovery. “While the court should
not automatically stay discovery because a motion to dismiss has been filed, ‘a stay is
proper where the likelihood that such motion may result in a narrowing or an outright
elimination of discovery outweighs the likely harm to be produced by the delay.’” 19th
St. Baptist Church v. St. Peters Episcopal Church, 190 F.R.D. 345, 349 (E.D. Pa. 2000),
quoting Weisman v. Mediq, Inc., 1955 WL 273678, 1995 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 5900 *2 (E.D.
Pa. 1995). “Where a pending motion to dismiss may dispose of the entire action and
where discovery is not needed to rule on such motion, the balance generally favors
granting a motion to stay.” Weisman, 1995 U.S. Dist. LEXIS at *5.”


We know that “undue burden or expense” was not the reason. Obama has spent FAR more fighting this thing that it would cost to produce the documents in question.


73 posted on 02/21/2009 6:49:11 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: Texas Eagle
I'm just trying to keep you people from getting your hopes up that anything will come of this.

Personally, I don't think the results are as important as keeping this question and many others regarding Obama's qualifications, honesty and transparency out front. I have met maybe a half-dozen people in the past month who voted for Obama, but are starting to seriously question why Obama has gone to such extents to avoid this particular issue and keep it quiet.

If they can begin to question Obama's openness and honesty on this issue, it may lead them to question him in other aspects of his leadership as well.

74 posted on 02/21/2009 7:21:50 PM PST by Zack Attack
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To: All

This is the only way we will ever get the attention of our elected officiala and the masses- protest!

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Anti-Obama organizations are being united for a ‘million man’ march on Washington. The permit is secured

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PRESIDENT OBAMA, WE DEMAND THAT YOU BE TRANSPARENT NOW

We will come together in a peaceful rally. We are proud Americans who fear that we are losing the America we all know and love. The America where millions have served in our military sacrificing and giving their lives so that we remain free. A people who honor their flag and understand what it means to fly it and be so proud to do so. It is time for our voices to be heard loud and clear. Our government is for the people and by the people. Where is that now? We are PRO GOD, PRO LIFE, PRO GUN Americans who see our rights slipping away as we speak. It is time our voices are heard. It is time for us to shout loudly and strongly that we refuse to live under a socialist regime, where our voices are silenced. Lets take this action now before we awaken one morning and our freedoms are nothing more than a memory.

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Dear Friends,

We are moving forward on our rally in Washington D C. We are working non stop in
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We called ahead of filing for these things. September 12&13 were the next available days they had.
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Some of our expenses are as follows.

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We want this to be safe for you and your family .

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WONT YOU HELP US PLEASE?????

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WITH RESERVATIONS AND PAY DEPOSITS FOR THOSE THINGS WE DESPERATELY NEED .

We also need YOU... physical YOU... we are asking for volunteers to work our tents and
commit to some important, needed jobs, facilitating and overseeing some of the most
important tasks , so this can be a successful rally.

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WE WILL BE UNITED, CHRISTIAN, JEW, BUDDHIST, HINDU, ATHEIST, BLACK, AND WHITE... WE WILL
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WE DEMAND THE TRANSPARENCY HE PROMISED !!!!!!!!

GOD BLESS US ON THIS RALLY, WITH YOUR PRAYERS, YOUR DEDICATION AND YOUR HELP, IT WILL BE
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THANK YOU DEAR FRIENDS.

SINCERELY,

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75 posted on 02/21/2009 7:40:23 PM PST by patriot08
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To: cripplecreek
It’s a little hard to believe that this man has anything less than the total destruction of America as his goal.

Absolutely, one hundred per cent on the money.

76 posted on 02/21/2009 7:43:51 PM PST by Faith
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To: FreeManN
There is no evidence any time any where in any form that he was born in the United States or that he is even a U S Citizen. On the other hand, there is abundant evidence that he was in fact born in Kenya.

He just isn't President of the United States because the Constitution says so.

Reason we haven't reached this issue is because some overriding powers are precluding the organs of public information from addressing the facts; because the legal system is under control and so far has not been forced to consider the issue.

77 posted on 02/21/2009 8:17:38 PM PST by David (...)
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To: David
Death by 1000 cuts.

Worse yet, death by 10,000 Lawsuits.

bo is dead meat!

78 posted on 02/21/2009 8:49:06 PM PST by FreeManN (www.ObamaCrimes.info & www.DefendOurFreedoms.US)
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To: FreeManN

obumpa


79 posted on 02/21/2009 8:52:58 PM PST by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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To: Always Right

How in hell can this problem ever come up to begin with? In order for a candidate to run for president of the USA paperwork must be filed. Why, if the Constitution is so clear on the subject, isn’t the candidate required to supply a certified copy of his original birth certificate. This document should be made public to all who want to see it and the ORIGINAL should also be made available to be seen by any of the opposition running against him/her.


80 posted on 02/22/2009 3:21:16 AM PST by 101voodoo (The only stimulus going on here is Congress stimulating themselves.)
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