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Republican Response to The One- - Jindal - LIVE THREAD

Posted on 02/24/2009 7:14:01 PM PST by Jean S

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; bhobudget; bhospeech; gopresponse; jindal; porkulus
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To: utahson; Victory111
You are exactly incorrect.

Charisma is unecessary if you are a dictator. It is only in democracies that a leader requires Charisma because he must motivate with his character, his presentation, his words - where in a dictatorship, the dictator can motivate with his guns.

761 posted on 02/25/2009 12:29:08 AM PST by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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To: rabscuttle385
I never campaigned for Obama.

Yes you did. When it came down to Obama vs. McCain, you and your fellow Paulistinians rallied against McCain, because you favored Obama over McCain. This is because Obama shares the blame-America-first foreign policy mindset as Ron Paul.

Given a choice between McCain and Obama, I choose "none of the above."

Given a choice between McCain and Obama, you favored Obama. This makes your intentions no different than any of the lefties who act as disrupters.

Not quite. Of the Republican candidates left standing...

As you already know, my argument has no relevance to the GOP primary. What I'm saying is, you, your fellow Paulistinians, and the far left, all favored Obama over McCain. The rest of your post is filled with nothing but non sequiturs that have no relevance to my argument.

762 posted on 02/25/2009 12:49:19 AM PST by death2tyrants
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To: Severa

That’s how it was when I was in HS (’87-’90). There wasn’t even a section on the Vietnam War. I took an elective Social Studies class my Senior Year in HS — Current Events — and THAT is when I learned what I did about politics & events in the The Cold War Era & Vietnam - at least the parts I learned in school. But, I was lucky to have a good teacher, and I was lucky to have taken that class. Had I not taken that class the last required time period we learned about in History class was WWII and the period immediately following it!


763 posted on 02/25/2009 1:54:29 AM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: utahson; rabscuttle385
Love how you continue to attack conservatives [...]

What "conservatives" are you referring to?

764 posted on 02/25/2009 2:09:08 AM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: utahson; rabscuttle385
No you were attacking Jindal not McCain, good try.

ROTFLMAO!! Now Jindal is a "conservative"? Same old question:

How does Jindal (on his record) prove that he can harness all three pillars of Conservatism? If you cannot answer that question (which you cannot), then Jindal is not a Conservative.

765 posted on 02/25/2009 2:15:36 AM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: F16Fighter
Jindal lacks gravitas as we saw tonight; Palin is too "conservative" for the GOP; and Romney's conservative bonafides are a question mark.

Incorrect. NONE of the above are conservative enough. NONE of the above can serve all three pillars of Conservatism, and all of the above will fail, or at best, squeak by.

766 posted on 02/25/2009 2:31:44 AM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: Dream Warrior; Melas
Melas can't be one of us or he would be defending any conservative in light of the current situation. I smell a troll.

The problem is that you are not defending Conservatives.

767 posted on 02/25/2009 2:34:19 AM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385
You being a young Republican Conservative, I welcome you here.

I second that- and there are damn few here, especially young ones.

As a 57 year old Republican, I do the same thing, and I will continue to do the same thing until I’m toes up.

Well, D1, I am 10 years behind you, but I plan on doing the very same thing.

Folks, if you’re having a problem with a guy who is advocating we return to true Conservative ideals, I’d suggest you re-evaluate your beliefs.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

768 posted on 02/25/2009 2:41:30 AM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: roamer_1

Your point about “Conservative” vs Republican is well taken.

There are many college campuses these days with ‘Young Republicans’ clubs on them. They are pretty sound Conservatives. I plug them whenever I get the chance.

Thanks for the nice comments.


769 posted on 02/25/2009 2:48:35 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Resolved: Gregg, McCain, Snowe, Spectre: 2010, Collins, Graham: 2014)
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To: death2tyrants; rabscuttle385
Yes you did. When it came down to Obama vs. McCain, you and your fellow Paulistinians rallied against McCain

A good portion of those on rabscuttle's lists are hard core Reaganites, myself included. Yes there are Libertarians too, as in the current Republican climate, it seems the last of the Reagan Coalition other than the Reagan core not willing to sell out are the civil libertarians.

That you would call them liberal says more about the NeoCon Republicans than it does about the Libertarians. When you assault Conservatives for standing upon principle, there is little wonder why Conservatives no longer support Republicans.

770 posted on 02/25/2009 2:52:09 AM PST by roamer_1 (Proud 1%er... Reagan Conservatism is the only way forward.)
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To: WatchOutForSnakes

Great oratory gave us Reagan, Lincoln, of course, Teddy Roosevelt. Right? These are times that call for someone with stentorian stature and great oratorical skills, failing the stentorian, I’ll take the oratory for $100.00. V’s wife.


771 posted on 02/25/2009 3:13:19 AM PST by ventana
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To: Syncro

ditto. V’s wife. (I’m gonna listen to Rush today).


772 posted on 02/25/2009 3:14:19 AM PST by ventana
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To: F16Fighter
I have been a conservative all my life, and I love what Sarah believes in. Facts are she just isn't my choice right now. We've got to find a great conservative who will return the mantle of Reagan, and it a'int her.

Don't get me wrong, if she secures the nomination, I'll support her, wholeheartedly, but right now, I think we have other options to lead the conservative movement. And as far as the attacks from the pro-Palin group, this already wreaks of the RomneyBot attacks many made after a lot of us supported Fred in 2008.

773 posted on 02/25/2009 3:43:34 AM PST by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: GeronL
I understand the concept of hit pieces, but it is impossible to edit:

1. Unable to respond to what VP duties are.

2. Alaskan proximity as experience in foreign policy.

3. Bridge to no where comments

4. The newspaper reading competencies.

5. Knowledge of Supreme court rulings.

Again I reiterate, I love Sarah, and her conservative stances. In fact, I was as excited as anyone else when she delivered her acceptance speech last fall. But since, I have come to the conclusion that I can not support her unless she is the general election candidate. So at this point it's either Jindal or Sanford for me.

And as far as Jindal's falling short last night, just remember the bent one failed at his 1988 dim key note address. So it's too early publishing Bobby's politcal obit yer.

......and Rick Santelli as Sec. of Treas. in 2012

774 posted on 02/25/2009 4:05:23 AM PST by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: Palladin
Sexist, because I won't support Sarah?

I think you left the saracasm tag off, or has the PC light been turned on here at FR?

775 posted on 02/25/2009 4:07:02 AM PST by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: rintense
"you are a rank amateur and need to go back to school."

Wow were you a former RomenyBot? This sounds like the same tactic....Insult if you don't agree. You post at du too?

I've been a staunch conservative since 1975, and I want the whole package like Reagan. That person is still out there to find, but it isn't Sarah.

776 posted on 02/25/2009 4:11:14 AM PST by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: mbraynard

Very smart! Good idea: speech from podium.


777 posted on 02/25/2009 4:11:15 AM PST by ventana
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To: Norman Bates
I take the “terrible speech” back...I didn't even listen as I was so disappointed. The Pundit Pit just agreed with the Friends that it wasn't Bobby's “best night” but like Bubba at the DNC Convention he can make a comeback.
778 posted on 02/25/2009 4:32:33 AM PST by Miss Didi ( "After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: mbraynard
Charisma is unecessary if you are a dictator. It is only in democracies that a leader requires Charisma because he must motivate with his character, his presentation, his words - where in a dictatorship, the dictator can motivate with his guns.

It's not so much that dictators requires charisma. It's more like there are a lot of dictators with charisma. Also a president's main job isn't to motivate the populace or even congress with his or her charm. It's to protect our liberty.
779 posted on 02/25/2009 4:51:02 AM PST by Nemes1s
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To: utahson; rabscuttle385
RE “I was not defending McCain. I was defending Jindal. I am thankful GWB kept my family and friends safe for seven years. For that I am eternally grateful for him.

Sorry my mistake . Jindal got a few good punches in but.... I got worried when he talked about the feds fixing stuff like health care ALA Bush fixing medicare. Bush has created such a mess with his reckless deficit spending and his unpopularity, and yet he was sold to us by talk radio as the conservative messiah, another Reagan(They dont talk that way anymore) . The thoughts of elected republicans using the government to fix anything else is scary. Yet the media and public demand it from them, hands always out.We need to point out WHY Obama is killing private industry and increasing welfare and government.

Keeping your family safe is a pretty low standard. They are likely to be TOO safe under the democrats and socialism that Bush/McCain gave us.

780 posted on 02/25/2009 4:59:31 AM PST by sickoflibs (Keynesian Economics : "If you won't spend your money WE WILL!")
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